Everyone needs to chill the fuck out!

[rufus dog]

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Clinton will not lose this! Why? - numerous reasons.

1. Trump is a horrible candidate and human being.
2. Electoral Math - Trump needs to run the table of all swing states.
3. Team Obama will be out in force during the last three months, thus motivating voters to solidify his legacy.

It will be close, in the range of 271 to 296 Electoral Votes, but she will pull out a victory.

EDIT IN JUNE: I meant 371 to 396 range! Seriously I didn't see the Trump meltdown coming this fast.

This from a guy who thinks she sucks as a candidate and as a person. That being said, it is my opinion. No need to post daily about all of her shortcomings, just as there is no need to have numerous posts calling for Bernie to drop out.

EDIT IN JUNE: O.K., time for Bernie to drop out.

Toughen up Clinton supporters, you are going to really start seeing the Republicans and media start tearing in to her, and her numbers will continue to drop. Better now than September, she can rebound, win her prized possession and be President for a term.

EDIT IN JUNE: The Repubs will rebound, I think June is lost for them. They will go into extra hate mode in July, most people will be too busy to notice, she will bounce back, repeat in September, bounce back in October!

For my latest can't miss prediction! UTAH IS IN PLAY!!!!!! Seriously the Mormons hate Trump more than they hate liberals.
Instead of bright red it will be mauve, within 10 points.

[grasswire]

1. Have you seen today's National Enquirer cover?

Buckle up, America. You're being put through the Clintons' wringer again.

[rufus dog]

2. I will go check it out

And this will be an incredibly ugly election. Her savior will be Obama constantly mocking Trump.

[imari362]

4. Trump will....

use everything Hillary and Bill did/said about President Obama 2008 primaries to show he is really just being nice, bring up her campaign debt being paid off as reasoning for her support of him in the GE, he will imply that she got the SOS as a pay off to not primary President Obama in '12, he will use her awful judgments as his SOS and how he wasn't all in on Libya. All done in that ugly underhanded way only Trump can do.

These are just some of the things Trump will use to drag Hillary through the mud....I can imagine some of the ads that will run just on the above...all in that dirty underhanded way of Trump + Republican party...nasty folks.

[AgingAmerican]

3. No mention of her running on issues?

I don't think 'solidifying Obama's legacy' is gonna be a big seller in the general election.

[rufus dog]

5. What issue?

Trump, the outsider, needs to run on a vision. That is fucking laughable. Hillary needs to play the middle, drone on about nothing, while promising not to rock the boat. What issue could she propose to turn Republicans or Progressives. She will throw out some B.S. and try to sway some righties, she will ignore the left. If I didn't live in a safe blue state I would likely spend 10 minutes staring at her name on the ballot prior to voting for her, walk out, buy a six pack, and guzzle it down.

[AgingAmerican]

10. Droning on about nothing probably won't sell in a General election

She is good at it though..

[eastwestdem]

6. Good points. nt

[Doctor Jack]

8. Gallup poll now shows Trump +3 over Clinton

It isn't looking too good. May 12th-16th

Trump 46%
Clinton 43%


Oh, wait, sorry. That should say

McCain 46%
Obama 43%


Silly me, I found a poll from mid-May 2008 showing the democratic front runner falling behind the republican nominee.

[joshcryer]

13. Indeed, and Obama had the best polling averages.

It was the late primary nastiness that caused him to dip. Same with Clinton. History is repeating itself

[grossproffit]

25. McCain won lots of online GE polls too.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

12. I absolutely agree with you.

What you've said, esp. this, is bedrock: Either we adjust and work with the progressives or we keep losing elections.

Thank you!



On edit: I see that this is your first post! And it's a good one. Welcome to DU!

[RepubliCON-Watch]

19. Wow, what a great couple of post you got there!

I hope more Clinton supporters can understand this. You truly get it!

[rufus dog]

20. Welcome to DU

I wished I shared your optimism. I just don't see her reaching out to the left. If I was an advisor to her, I would recommend against it unless it was something extremely bold. Reason being, I'm not sure if she would come across as sincere.

[floppyboo]

16. I wish your voice was louder here! Thank you PrincipleOverParty!

[RufusTFirefly]

11. Great! We'll defeat Mussolini and wind up with ...

... a corporatist warmonger instead.

I for one will be overjoyed.


What a country!!

[rufus dog]

15. She's a better choice than Trump

Hey, she will win the majority of delegates. A lot of factors in play, she cleared the field, basically ran against one person, and will win.

[liberal_at_heart]

24. How many elections do voters have to hear "better than"?

Eventually voters will get numb to that argument and either vote for someone else or stay home. If the choices are Trump or Hillary voter turn out will be very low. How long does the Democratic party want to be known as the party people hold their noses for? Is that really something the party aspires to? Is that really what the Democratic party wants to be? How low will the bar go? How uninspired do the people have to be? It's just all so sad and pathetic.

[Jitter65]

17. You think 20 years of bashing hasn't toughened us up? If elected, HRC will serve two terms.

She will be a fantastic President and sway many people to there corner once she is able to get her plans into operation. Everyone who was skeptical of her when she entered the Senate has said they had the highest regard for her once they got to know her and to work with her. And this was from the right as well as the left.

[rufus dog]

21. Her positives do go up when in office

Hey, I don't care for her, but if I have a choice between a shit sandwich or a Big Mac, and I am starving, I'm pulling into McDonalds. Haven't had to do that in thirty years. But I'm not going to state there is no difference between the two.

[lovemydog]

18. I hope you're right.

I hope we can mend the divisions between leftists and liberals and mainstream democrats, and deliver many more liberal people in Congress too.

[seekthetruth]

22. The politics of this country are riddled with ....

.....so many undemocratic rules. Why the hell don't we just leave it to popular vote, and allow everyone to vote with the party they please?

The establishment has made up these rules over the years, and it's tearing our country apart.

[Betty Karlson]

23. Everybody start whistling past the graveyard now!

Or: be realistic, and nominate Bernie - he'll certainly keep the White House, return the senate to the Democrats, and maybe even flip the house.

[cantbeserious]

26. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

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