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Thu May 19, 2016, 07:58 AM

 

Sickening: Bernie "willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton" to win California.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-accuses-head-of-dnc-of-favoritism.html?_r=0

While Mr. Sanders says he does not want Mr. Trump to win in November, his advisers and allies say he is willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton in the shorter term if it means he can capture a majority of the 475 pledged delegates at stake in California and arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power.


“The only thing that matters is what happens between now and June 14,” Mr. Devine said


Several described the campaign’s message as having devolved into a near-obsession with perceived conspiracies on the part of Mrs. Clinton’s allies.


This is absolutely sickening behavior from a man who has to know that he has lost this nomination. If he was continuing to run to get his message out, few would begrudge him. But this is more evidence that he isn't a Democrat, he doesn't care about getting a Democrat elected in November, and this movement really is all about him feeding his ego.

Right now, I'm so disgusted by the way Bernie is handling things that if he does have the courage to stay a Democrat in the Senate, I hope the party does the right thing and reduces him to his proper level of seniority; the bottom rung of the Democratic ladder.

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Reply Sickening: Bernie "willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton" to win California. (Original post)
CrowCityDem May 2016 OP
DebDoo May 2016 #1
Nonhlanhla May 2016 #15
workinclasszero May 2016 #23
azurnoir May 2016 #28
riversedge May 2016 #31
cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #39
Fla Dem May 2016 #80
frylock May 2016 #88
oldandhappy May 2016 #128
skylucy May 2016 #61
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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:01 AM

1. Sickening = how badly the dem party has treated Bernie

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Response to DebDoo (Reply #1)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:13 AM

15. How badly have they treated him

They allowed him to run in the Democratic Party primaries, even though he's never been a Democrat. He had access to all the same resources that any other candidate has.

Meanwhile he has sued them after HIS CAMPAIGN got caught with their hand in the cookie jar; he has attacked the party as a whole; he has refused to raise money for other Democrats; he now is on a scorched earth route against the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee (since he can no longer catch up with her), etc.

Yeah, poor Bernie. He really is the victim here...

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #15)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:21 AM

23. Poor Bernie is the perpetual victim

 

The entire universe is against him!

I don't know how the poor fellow gets out of bed every morning.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #23)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:32 AM

28. umm ya it's Bernie that's playing victim

that's so rich I must ask how many pounds did you gain while typing it ?

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #23)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:36 AM

31. Bernie has devolved into a sick version of his earlier

inspiring self. Yes, I did find him to be inspiring earlier in the campaign but with each passing day, he has become angrier and defiant--not a good presidential image.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #23)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:44 AM

39. This OP wasn't about BERNIE being the victim though, was it? It was about HILLARY being the victim.

 

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The victim, I should add, of having to compete in a primary state her supporters believe should arbitrarily be placed in her win column.

Ironic that you jump with both feet into a thread about how Hillary is the victim, claiming Bernie is a victim.

You funny. You funny guy.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #39)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:23 AM

80. A BS supporter was the one who started the Bernie is a victim meme.

See DebDoo 2nd post in thread.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #23)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:29 PM

88. Did you read the OP?

It's about poor Hillary's victimhood.

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Response to frylock (Reply #88)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:32 PM

128. yes and this statement is not in there

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #15)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:20 AM

61. Thank you for speaking the truth. I agree 100%.

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Response to DebDoo (Reply #1)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:41 AM

36. Do you mean by letting him run for the nomination for President?

It's sickening all right.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:01 AM

2. I find the claim that Bernie intends to harm Clinton much more offensive and sickening.



I know Hill shills are upset that Bernie isn't dropping out and are now exaggerating anything to suppress Bernie's campaign.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #2)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:16 AM

17. Hillary works hard for the money.

 

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #2)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:17 AM

58. like your sig line...

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #2)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:39 PM

130. Exaggerating is right

After the Berniebros were so violent in Nevada, now Bernie wants to "Harm" Hillary?

Harm her? As in physically harm her (nice hyperbole there guys). He is going to do what any candidate does in a campaign...try to show her weakness and why he should win. If that is "harming" her, what the hell have she and Brock been doing to him?

Harm her my ass.

Hillary camp is getting a little too scared. I don't think California is going to go the way they want it to. I sure as hell hope California "harms" her efforts to win this race.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:01 AM

3. With advisers and allies like that who needs......

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:02 AM

4. Got your orders for the day, huh?

 

Too late. Hillary and her campaign are the reason people don't like her, and attacking all Bernie supporters as violent and angry will only guarantee her loss in the GE.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:02 AM

5. That's politics.

 

Hillary should be used to it by now.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #5)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:11 AM

14. Her campaign said similar things at this point in 2008

 

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Response to Armstead (Reply #14)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:49 AM

47. 3 things

1. She should have dropped out earlier in 2008.
2. Nevertheless, it was a much, much close election, and she had far more reason to stay in at the time than Bernie does now.
3. In 2008 it was far less risky for her to stay in, since a Democratic GE victory was almost a certainty after 8 years of Bush. We're now on the other side of the pendulum, and a victory this year will be more difficult to achieve, so it's very risky for the Dems to stretch out the nomination fight, especially in the damaging way Bernie is doing it.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #47)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:39 AM

72. Not situational

 

She basically did the same thing Bernie is doing. There were many calls from political leaders and media for her to drop out as a lost cause, but she did not until it was over....The numbers don't matter because the perceptions at the time that she had no chance to win were the same.

The overall political situation at the time is also irrelevant for comparison. The meme has been that she will stomp Trump. There were no certainties in 2008 that made it "safer" for her to continue her challenge. People were just as nervous about it.



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Response to Armstead (Reply #72)

Thu May 19, 2016, 05:44 PM

124. Everything is situational

I agree that Hillary should have stopped campaigning earlier in 2008, but she had far more reason to go on than Bernie does now. There was the issue of whether Florida's delegates would be seated or now, and she was far closer in delegates to Obama than Bernie is now.

And the situation was different. The country was suffering from major Bush fatigue, and the natural cycle was that a Democrat would be elected. Now we're coming off 8 years of Obama, and so the natural cycle would be to elect a Republican. So the risk of prolonging the primary is far higher this time around.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:04 AM

6. Like pretending her supporters are violent?

Or hiring internet operatives to smear her on social media?

Actually, he'll probably just talk about policy like he always does...how mean of him!

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Response to bobbobbins01 (Reply #6)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:17 AM

18. THAT is what they don't want

Hillary is a bandwagon campaign with very few specifics so it matches up poorly with Sanderss campaign that is all policy.

They were losing early so they went on offense, trying to get Bernie into a defensive mode. We have been baited by much of it on social media but the Sanders campaign has stayed focused.

Btw, the ad that freaked out camp Clinton (Benenson: "Most negative ever...." was this one (?):

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #18)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:16 AM

57. I love the line, "Will they like me, no,,,," as his eyebrows go up.



What a dude. :>))))))

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Response to bobbobbins01 (Reply #6)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:45 AM

40. Exactly. Trolls can fake their outrage all they want, but they know it's fake.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:06 AM

7. Good work!

Member since: Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:09 AM
Number of posts: 1,039

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Response to artislife (Reply #9)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:45 PM

95. you would know all about those high posting numbers from your early days...right?

 

and passing up most working stiffs for the last 90 days too.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #95)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:45 PM

120. Meh

Still counting time in months...

Not exactly a long-termer, still looks like early days to me.

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Response to QC (Reply #7)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:18 AM

19. Fascinating- there's another thread with the same OP title.

quelle coincidence!

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #19)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:21 AM

24. That's not a very efficient use of donor money!

I just saw another one who has racked up more than 3,000 posts since Feb. 28.

Now that is some hustle!

Even has 7 hides already.

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Response to QC (Reply #24)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:35 AM

30. If only they would use more imagination with the Brock word of the day!

I would imagine it would bring about better job satisfaction.

Today word: Sickening

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #30)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:41 AM

34. I wish it was more like Pee Wee Herman's Secret Word.

That was at least imaginative and fun.

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Response to QC (Reply #34)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:45 AM

41. It was thinking the same thing! Ha. Let's all scream real loud when we hear the world "sickening"

today.

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Response to QC (Reply #7)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:32 PM

90. First graduating class of Brock U.

This poster is a seasoned veteran!

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:07 AM

8. Sickening indeed. Yet another big corporate media propaganda hit piece on Sanders. They fear him!

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:08 AM

10. He is a loose cannon.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:09 AM

11. Hillary is permanently damaged

 

I don't think a scratch is going to matter on a bus that looks like this

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Response to pinebox (Reply #11)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:03 PM

102. That is what the right says about her, over and over. But I thought this

was a liberal place.

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Response to Actor (Reply #102)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:35 PM

111. Denial of facts is a RW strong point

 

Perhaps you're in the wrong place

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Response to pinebox (Reply #111)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:39 PM

113. It is clear there is an agenda here to destroy the Democratic nominee. nuff said

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Response to Actor (Reply #113)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:40 PM

114. It's clear that one side doesn't give a shit about the working class and the poor

 

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Response to pinebox (Reply #114)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:42 PM

117. They are called republicans. Do you think teaparty cares about working people?

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Response to Actor (Reply #117)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:45 PM

119. They are called corporate Dems

 

Do you think real estate deals in Haiti are good things? Perhaps not supporting a living wage is epic? Then you might be a Hillary supporter.
'Nuff said.

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Response to pinebox (Reply #119)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:46 PM

121. Could you answer this please?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:10 AM

12. Disgusting

 

Well Sanders is showing what a great "democrat" he is huh?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:10 AM

13. Hillary is sickening, and harming the U.S. Foundation, War, Arms selling, Wall Street.

 

Bill history of NAFTA and the end of the Glass Steagall Act, while she says she'll bring him back, are proof they both harm everyone! Except the 1%.....


Oh the contest is hurting Hillary, and it's Bernie, simply because he's in the race. Bernie has more integrity in his pinky, than all of congress and the Clinton's both.

Sending Chelsea out to lie....she HURT HER OWN CAMPAIGN.


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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #13)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:35 AM

69. I don't know what the Hillary camp...

Will do when a candidate without any integrity actually campaigns against her. Trump has no integrity, but the Hillary campaign has already used that against Sanders, so it will look REALLY bad if they recycle the same stuff against Trump.

Don't think for a second that Trump won't call her out for using the same memes against him in response to all the attacks she will face from the right that you wrote above.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:15 AM

16. Maybe Hillary and her campaign will start treating Sanders and his candidacy with the proper respect

Hell, I would be pissed too if I was Bernie, the Hillary campaign is acting as if all those millions of voters who voted for him, and all those states where he kicked her ass in terms of trouncing her in the vote, never existed or didn't happen. The Hillary folks running her campaign better wake up, and real quick-like.

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Response to One Black Sheep (Reply #16)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:44 AM

38. I'm sure the 'Hillary folks' will give your suggestion all

the attention it deserves.

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Response to One Black Sheep (Reply #16)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:47 AM

45. Maybe Berine and his campaign will start treating Clinton and her candidacy with the proper respect


Hell, I would be pissed too if I was Hillary, the Sanders campaign is acting as if all those millions of voters who voted for her, and all those states where she kicked his ass in terms of trouncing him in the vote, never existed or didn't happen. The Sanders folks running his campaign better wake up, and real quick-like.


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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:19 AM

20. "Sickening" - Brock's Word of the Day for 5/29

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:21 AM

21. Bernie is acting very irresponsibly

The heart of progressivism is responsibility towards others, especially the poor and vulnerable. That is why we believe in social programs, in not waging war unnecessarily, in civil rights, in responsible governing.

The GOP is about to nominate one of the most dangerous individuals ever to take the helm of a major political party in the United States, a man whose rhetoric echoes that of some of history's worst demagogues, a man who is clearly all about his own ego, and who has no idea of government, economics, foreign policy,etc. And yet Bernie's campaign sees fit to damage the only person standing between the world and this dangerous individual, just to satisfy his ego. He knows damn well that the primaries are over; that he can no longer catch up. But he's willing to damage our nominee, to excuse violent behavior in his followers, to feed their grievances, and thereby to risk the victory of Donald Trump in November.

I started this primary being neutral. I switched to Hillary after datagate, because I detected a pattern of wrongdoing-claiming victimhood - blaming Hillary in the Bernie camp. That pattern has emerged more and more clearly in the months since. I've lost all my respect for Bernie. I'm not a super-fan of Hillary (was and still am primarily an Obama supporter), but despite some mistakes and despite some policies I don't agree with 100%, I see in her a responsible human being who will therefore serve the broader progressive cause well. I don't see that in Bernie, especially now.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #21)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:26 AM

26. If you're truly worried about Trump, get off the Hillary bandwagon. She can't win.

 

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #26)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:33 AM

29. She's already won the primaries

Bernie can't win anymore.

The only person standing between us and Trump is Hillary.

Think about that.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #29)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:46 AM

43. Hillary's donors don't mind losing to Trump.

 

Think about that.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #43)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:50 AM

48. Really?

Did you poll Hillary's donors?

And even if they do, that does not change the fact that Trump is incredibly dangerous.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #48)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:05 PM

125. Wall Street would be just fine with a republican in the White House.n/t

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #43)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:26 AM

65. Stupidity abounds-

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #21)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:04 AM

76. Datagate never happened.

 

"Datagate" never happened, not in the way that you are attempting to portray it.

Yes, the database was compromised (by a member of Sanders' staff, who had been recommended by both the DNC and Hillary's campaign, and who was promptly fired from the Sanders campaign after the breach was discovered).

However, an independent forensic audit concluded that there had been no download of files from the database by the Sanders group, and that the DNC had been negligent in its security protocols.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:21 AM

22. Trumps gonna do a lot more harm to her than Sanders.

This stuff is out there already and don't pretend that it isn't.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:25 AM

25. Bravo, Bernie! Bravo! Keep fighting for the American people.

 

He's the only candidate in this campaign who is.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:26 AM

27. Aww, how dare he try to win!?

 

Get it through your Hillarite skulls: he's not going to roll over for you. Ever.

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Response to Jester Messiah (Reply #27)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:41 AM

35. Bernie will do anything to win-and that is not a good thing.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #35)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:42 AM

37. So will (and has) Hillary, but she gets a pass apparently.

 

And she's done far worse. Sanders' only sin is a refusal to give up, and at least he fights by honest means.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #35)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:41 PM

92. Pure projection.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:39 AM

32. This is to be expected of Bernie

Hillary Clinton is not the first progressive Democratic woman to be challenged by Bernie Sanders. He ran against me in 1986 when I was running for my second term as governor of Vermont. At that time he had little affinity for the Democratic Party. When advised that his third-party candidacy might result in a Republican victory, he saw no difference between Democrats and Republicans, saying: “It is absolutely fair to say you are dealing with Tweedledum and Tweedledee.”

[link:https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/04/when-bernie-sanders-ran-against-vermont/kNP6xUupbQ3Qbg9UUelvVM/story.html|

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #32)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:09 AM

50. Sanders did say Tues night that he is up against the

whole Democratic establishment--to his crowd. Lots of cheers.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #50)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:48 AM

82. Payday loans for all, ring in Debbie W.S.

The list of sell outs from the third way people is very long and that is what many people do here, expose it.

The many cheers you are hearing from the Bernie rallies is from the facts and truth being told. If you don't like that kind of thing then i would suggest you go back to hiding somewhere people believe in lies they are being fed.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #33)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:46 AM

42. It's OK. You can go back to sleep now. Dream of

the alternate universe where unicorns run free and Bernie wins California by 30 points. It will all be OK>

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Response to Name removed (Reply #33)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:52 AM

49. lolz

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:46 AM

44. Change of lyrics

Starting with: You work harrrrd for her money.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:48 AM

46. Haaaahahaha! Ya? Is it "sickening?" Are you "sickened?"

I hope you feel better soon.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:11 AM

51. Hillary's the only Democratic nominee that has a negitive approval rating.

 

There's nothing Bernie could do that would damage Hillary worse than Hillary damages Hillary.

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Response to Giggity (Reply #51)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:15 AM

55. Bernie's sure been trying to damage Hillary

but you say he's failing there, too.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #55)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:35 AM

68. Hiliary's inability to even manage a positive favorability isn't Bernie's fault.

 

It is entirely her own.

There has never been a Democratic nominee that has failed to manage the ridiculously low bar of not being actively disliked by the majority of the country.
Hillary is literally the worst Democratic nominee in history.

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Response to Giggity (Reply #68)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:36 AM

70. Bernie doesn't have much impact

but he must still be able to influence somebody.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #70)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:40 AM

73. Not according to the OP.

 

Bernie has every right to freely run for office via popular election and Hilliary's historically unprecedented lack of popularity is her fault and her problem.
Bernie doesn't factor into that discussion.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:12 AM

52. Sickening? SICKENING??

What do you think your own 'candidate' has been doing for the past umteen months..?
THAT, my friend, is sickening..

Your last 2 paragraphs prove you have no idea who Bernie Sanders is..just none....

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:14 AM

53. Sanders has lost what little integrity he had. nt

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:14 AM

54. DEsperate much? *his advisers and allies say*

PAthetic stench of desperation.

It's a primary.
Hillary knows all about campaigning
to the bitter end.

She did far more harm to Obama
with her dog whistles and extended
primary than Bernie is doing to her.

Embarrassing how tender and feeble
the Clinton campaign appears.

How's she gonna stand up to Putin
if Bernie is such a meanie?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:15 AM

56. I know you are but what am I?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:18 AM

59. Well, get to work and kick his ass then Team Clinton

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:19 AM

60. This may represent the most clueless op I've seen posted in my 3 years of posting here.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:21 AM

62. I hope you're feeling better soon.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:23 AM

63. Bernie is screwed in Cali

His campaign manager has fled, and so too other key staffers like his chief technology officer.

I don't know what this is about, but Bernie's chances to win Cali are sputtering, and he needs a blow out there, like 90% of the PDs in Cali, kind of blow out. Which isn't going to happen. At best Cali will be a narrow to "ok" win for Bernie. I think, if he wins, he'd beat Hillary by 10 points maximum. Not enough to close the delegate count.

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Response to apnu (Reply #63)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:44 PM

94. Hillary's internals for CA are in the shitter.

That's the reason for the increase in Brockshit over the last week.

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Response to frylock (Reply #94)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:03 PM

103. Do you have a link to Hillary's internals? I'd love to look at them.

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Response to apnu (Reply #103)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:06 PM

105. You need only look at their panicked actions to know it's true.

Winners act like winners.

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Response to frylock (Reply #105)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:16 PM

107. I'm gonna stick with facts not forum posts

If you don't have it, you don't have it. That's fine.

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Response to apnu (Reply #107)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:31 PM

110. You do that.

I'm gonna stick with watching Cali go for Bernie.

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Response to frylock (Reply #110)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:37 PM

112. How big is Bernie going to win Cali do you think?

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Response to apnu (Reply #112)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:41 PM

116. Enough to win.

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Response to frylock (Reply #116)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:44 PM

118. Then he's done

"enough to win" won't cut his delegate shortage. He must blow Hillary out by 30+ points. Given his campaign is shedding staff in Cali either they think they've got such a comfortable lead it doesn't matter (very unlikely) or they're winding things down.

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Response to apnu (Reply #118)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:50 PM

123. The only number that matters at this stage is <12 Federal Agents.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:25 AM

64. A Hillaritè actually has the nerve to talk about INTEGRITY



Oh, please, stop. You're killing me.
Please, go cry to mama.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:27 AM

66. Wait, hold on.

Discussing how Sanders' policies are better than Clinton's is harming her? But, isn't that how primaries are supposed to work? Candidates are supposed to win over votes by defending their policies not by having people whine about how their opponent is harming their chances in the GE.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:31 AM

67. Nice way to tie the Brock violent meme with Sanders directly.

Shitty, lowbrow subject line taking entire topic out of context.

You should work for The National. Enquirer.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #67)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:36 AM

71. Actually...

The National Enquired has more of an editorial/journalistic ethics and standard than the Hillary bought off media.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:45 AM

74. Sickening is that you Hillary fans don't understand that 10 million+ people do not want Hillary to

be the nominee.

We are fighting to the end.

Disgusting is the way Clintonistas keep belittling Bernie, ignoring his supporters and thinking that our movement is just a big joke.

I have zero respect for her and her campaign.


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Response to jillan (Reply #74)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:54 AM

85. Sanders fans... dismiss Clinton having that many more not wanting Sanders. Winner/Loser.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:49 AM

75. I didn't like Clinton since the beginning of the primary.

 

But I didn't, in fact would not have believed, that the amount of coordination between the DNC, media and the Clinton campaign was possible, and I most certainly would not have believed that this ratfucking would be celebrated by "liberals" and "progressives".

Clinton supporters do not understand. Forget Clinton... the behavior of the party itself is making millions of americans reevaluate whether they want to be democrats at all, and reinforcing the cynicism of independents.

Don't worry, because of the malfeasance and assholishness of the establishment and their lickspittle toadies, elected Democrats will be reduced to that bottom rung.

Perhaps it's for the best. This party needs to be torn down and rebuilt, it's easier to tear down an already collapsed building.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:09 AM

77. Clinton surrogates willing to divide party for California

 

Which is what this whole "they were practically rioting!" Narrative is aimed at.

Especially the Barbara Boxer business. "They called her the b-word!" Like Cali voters are going to rush to defend her honor.

Not so much. We like her just fine. I like her just fine. But if you think there's some untapped mass of Senator worshippers who will now activate to defend her in a raging voter horde, uh, no.

She picked a fight. She lost. It was a dumb decision.

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Response to Prism (Reply #77)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:46 PM

96. I used to like her.

Had a great deal of respect for her, in fact. No more. Her actions only serve to reinforce my decision to never join the Party.

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Response to frylock (Reply #96)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:55 PM

100. She's Establishment

 

She's done good things, but invariably being in a position of power too long leads to a disconnect and entitlement.

When I saw her, "I feared for my safety!" hilarity, I cringed. Oh, good lord, she just beclowned herself.

And for what? Hillary. People keep sacrificing their ideals, honor, and integrity for this corrupt politician, and I will never ever figure out why. She has all the charisma of a doormat.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:09 AM

78. How dare a candidate actually try to compete for delegates?!

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:15 AM

79. He thinks he can harm Secretary Clinton? Good luck with that one!

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #79)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:48 PM

97. She's perfectly capable of doing that all on her own.

In fact, it seems to be the only thing she ever gets right.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:36 AM

81. bad bad Bernie. Here, have a hug

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:50 AM

83. Hillary is sickening with her scandals and war machine via the 'foundation'.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:53 AM

84. CT, for sure. Do what he has to.... So ego driven. Nt

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:56 AM

86. What's he supposed to do? Embrace her? Kiss her hand? Send her a get-well card?

 

He's running against her and her politics.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:28 PM

87. C'mon, man. I thought she was a fighter?

She's got this right? Bernie is just toughening her up for the GE. Isn't that what Hillary Supporter always tells us?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:30 PM

89. They must be scared shitless of losing California.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:39 PM

91. Bernie has been much too kind and shown much too much deference to Hillary.

I didn't think that before, but his avoidance of the issues that will be raised in the general election hasn't done him any favors. It's clear the elites in the Democratic Party aren't showing much gratitude for preserving Hillary's stature. I doubt he'll let loose in California by any standard coming close to what the GOP is going to unleash.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #91)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:45 PM

133. +1. And how could it possibly hurt her, anyway, since she is The Supreme One? More whining...

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:42 PM

93. It's the heaping spoonfuls of Brockshit that are upsetting your tummy.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:49 PM

98. Calling her "Mrs. Clinton" is such a sexist insult. When a woman has earned a title,

 

it needs to be used, Mr. Sanders.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #98)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:51 PM

99. I so agree. I'm a doctor, and my biggest pet peeve is when people insist on calling me Ms.

 

when they are aware of my profession. I work with many men, who are never 'accidentally' called Mr.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:56 PM

101. Democracy is an awful thing isn't it

I'm sure that CLinton, DWS and Wall Street will officially eliminate it as soon as they can

Yeah, its' sickening that Bernie wins and Draws hurt her highness
IT proves what a lame candidate she is. Maybe you should be supporting a better candidate?


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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:05 PM

104. Oh, yeah.

Horrible.

God forbid he use facts in his attempt to win a contest that is still ongoing, to try and beat her.

What the hell is he thinking? He should just make ads about rainbows and lolly pops and say nothing but warm fuzzy things about her at his campaign rallies.


God, you people are pathetic.

I thought HRC was the greatest thing since sliced bread? What can Sanders do to bring down the inevitable one?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:08 PM

106. I'll put Bernie up as a Democrat with Democrat values against anyone else out there. The principles

 

he stands for are generally my principles, and I can count on him to fight for them.

I cannot say that for the Democratic Party at large, which has been shanghaied by corporate interests since the 1990's.

If the Hillary campaign would quit getting all hysterical about the race continuing for as long as it did in 2008, we could all breath a lot easier. It's what roughly half the Democratic Party wants, and I sincerely hope that Bernie fulfills his promise to take it at least that far.

If those on the Hillary side were really smart, and the winners they like to think they are, they would be making sure Sanders supporters feel understood, supported, and fought for. A whole lot easier and better for the Party than trying to redesign it or continue to redesign it around Republicans.

Is that what the Hillary supporters want after all - a Democratic Party that is pretty much like the Republican Party of the past?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:18 PM

108. No one from his campaign said anything of the sort

and I'm not sure which is worse - the NYT for the misleading headline, or the OP for adding quotation marks so it looks like a direct quote.

If I'm wrong about this, and someone used that language other than the author of this article, please let me know.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:25 PM

109. FAKE QUOTE

 

No one in the article is saying he's "willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton".

Nor is that an accurate transcription of the headline.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:40 PM

115. What "harm" can he possibly do that won't be forgotten by the convention? n/t

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:48 PM

122. Nothing he says or does will come close to what the Republicans have in store

 

NOTHING.

I thought she was tough and up for it.

If anything, Sanders still staying in the race is taking some heat off her right now or Trump would be all in.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:28 PM

126. let's have a direct quote that proves your headline.

You have quote marks there. So let's have the quote.

Otherwise, it's hogwash.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:29 PM

127. maybe he is tired of the DNC manipulations

Actually I doubt this happened, stop scamming DU. Thank you.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:36 PM

129. this is fair

Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future. They said he also held out hope of capitalizing on any late stumbles by Mrs. Clinton or any damage to her candidacy, whether by scandal or by the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump.

The above headline is not in the article. If you are worried about an aggressive campaign, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Trump will not be the gentleman that Bernie has been.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:41 PM

131. Primaries are that you show the difference in the other candidate from you..and if that

makes her look bad that's her fault not Bernie's. She has enough stuff going on to make herself look bad.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:44 PM

132. The Nerve

How dare Bernie focus on his own campaign rather than try to help Hillary with hers. Doesn't he know that's not how it's done. The candidate that is supposed to win must have help from her opponent if it looks like she might lose.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2016, 02:01 PM

134. Let's look at this realistically

1) The author of the article doesn't even quote anyone in making the statement about "harm" to Clinton. It is apparently an interpretation by the author, rather than anything that anyone actually said.

2) Clearly the use of the word "harm" is meant as political harm, not bodily harm.

3) I have never in my life seen a primary where all the candidates running were not willing to do some political harm to their opponent in order to win. Be honest about this. It NEVER happens, whether they honestly admit it or not.

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