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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:19 PM May 2016

Five things people should stop saying about Bernie Sanders

ESPECIALLY #5, IMHO.
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Five things people should stop saying about Bernie Sanders
by Trevor Timm * May 19, 2016 * The Guardian

It seems to be open season on Bernie Sanders in the Democratic party now that his chances of winning the nomination are dwindling. But the criticism of him is misguided and hypocritical, and he is doing the right thing by largely ignoring it.

Here’s a breakdown of what the party’s establishment is saying and why it makes little sense.
1. Bernie should stop criticizing Clinton! (for 1-3, see link)
2. Bernie should criticize Trump more!
3. Stop criticizing the party!
4. Bernie should drop out!

There is nothing worse than Democratic establishment politicians decreeing that Sanders must drop out or feigning horror that his supporters sometimes don’t unquestionably support other Democratic politicians on 100% of the issues.

Again, let’s look back at the 2008 race: the Clinton camp said she had every right to stay in the race for as long as she wants, even though it was clear that Obama would win. She even said one of her reasons was “we all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California” before the Democratic convention in 1968. If Sanders said something like that he would be raked over the coals (and rightly, I might add).

It’s not politicians who should be dictating when Sanders drops out, that’s the voters’ job. And Sanders, despite finding his mathematical chance increasingly dwindling, continues to win primaries. Last night he won Oregon, for example. So it seems that voters don’t want him to drop out, only the politicians who are tied to the system he is constantly criticizing do.

5. Sanders supporters are out of control!
Certainly the behavior of a few Sanders supporters crossed the line in Nevada last week, which Sanders himself has acknowledged. But the lengths the Clinton camp and the media has gone to turn this election into a referendum on who has the better behaving supporters really has taken away from the important issues the candidates were debating.

What’s worse is Clinton surrogates outrage over a very small minority of Sanders supporters claiming they don’t want to support Clinton in the general election. As many commentators have pointed out in response to the countless “Bernie bro” think pieces that are churned out on a regular basis, every candidate has awful supporters.

The Clinton camp also seems to have conveniently forgotten that the phenomenon known as Pumas, hardcore Clinton supporters who were so intent on not supporting Obama after the 2008 Democratic primaries that they literally named their contingent “Party Unity My Ass.” And surprise, surprise, after a few months that controversy was largely ancient history and Clinton supporters overwhelmingly voted for Obama, because the other general election candidate was much worse.

Bernie Sanders has certainly been a shot in the arm for the Democratic party. But that is only a good thing, and I, for one, hope he continues.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/19/bernie-sanders-establishment-democrats-stop-arguments-primaries

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Five things people should stop saying about Bernie Sanders (Original Post) 99th_Monkey May 2016 OP
Proof is in the pudding....sanders can accept his fate and be a class act... beachbumbob May 2016 #1
Actually HRC waiting until June 7th to drop out when she was millions in debt and need Obama's help aikoaiko May 2016 #2
6) Bernie won't win the nomination... brooklynite May 2016 #3
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. Proof is in the pudding....sanders can accept his fate and be a class act...
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

Or not....Hillary in 2008 at this point took the classy route....so Bernie has chose not to....he has no way to nomination but can do incredible harm to the Democratic Party and the future of America....either he chooses to have some class...or his legacy is forever tarnished.....his supporters rather see America thrown to the wolves...

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
3. 6) Bernie won't win the nomination...
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

As long as we're agreed on that point, I don't much care what he does from now to July.

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