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Stand Strong Berners and Don't Let Nevada derail our efforts (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 OP
How does that chart say anything about the outcome of the primary? upaloopa May 2016 #1
Says Clinton goin' down. senz May 2016 #4
Well it shows that his campaign hasn't been as big a failure as many paint it... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #5
It's only a failure in the sense that he's losing. griffi94 May 2016 #13
This isn't a football game... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #18
You're right. It's not a football game griffi94 May 2016 #20
Woosh.... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #21
If you're implying that we should make Bernie our nominee griffi94 May 2016 #22
You are the one who keeps implying... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #24
Oh. I see griffi94 May 2016 #25
Hillary has not won. senz May 2016 #28
She has won griffi94 May 2016 #30
Nope. Doesn't have the numbers. senz May 2016 #31
Yeah OK griffi94 May 2016 #32
Where the hell have you been? senz May 2016 #2
I needed a break, after New York the Hillary people were downright vile here... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #3
I don't blame you. I do this in a spirit of self-sacrifice senz May 2016 #6
This is the second Nevada event and just one more of a long line of dirty tricks the HC campaign has Todays_Illusion May 2016 #7
Happy to see ya back GP! nt nc4bo May 2016 #8
Come on guys...just a few more riots, and we've got this! nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #9
A few more vote thefts and y'all can kiss it goodbye. senz May 2016 #10
Here are some more good excuses for you... anotherproletariat May 2016 #11
No explanations needed. senz May 2016 #14
He doesn't have enough damn delegates KingFlorez May 2016 #12
Neither does queenie. senz May 2016 #16
She's not known for regaining her rating losses, either. pacalo May 2016 #15
Hell, she lost me in 2008. senz May 2016 #17
I had no idea she was so underhanded & dirty. pacalo May 2016 #19
Standing Proud--No Need to Take David Brock Seriously n/t davidlynch May 2016 #23
Keep on keeping on. And we're fighting a righteous cause. highprincipleswork May 2016 #26
Nevada derailed his efforts on February 20th. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #27
What utter nonsense. NanceGreggs May 2016 #29
Keep telling yourself that... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #33
A million people believing it ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #34
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
5. Well it shows that his campaign hasn't been as big a failure as many paint it...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

And it also points out that this ain't over yet. Sanders strongest base of financial support is coming from California. Also the New Jersey poll that came out has him down but New Jersey allows independents to vote in the primary if they declare that day and the poll also had a low youth turnout in it which is not accurate based on all the primaries thus far having youth turnouts closer to 2008 levels and in some states even surpassing that.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
18. This isn't a football game...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

This is about the future of the progressive movement. I will stand with him and fight the establishment to whatever end

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
20. You're right. It's not a football game
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

It's a primary election where the winner goes on to
be our nominee.

There are two candidates.
Hillary and Bernie.

Bernie is losing.

Bernie will not be our nominee.
He's losing by enough delegates that he can'r catch up now.

Hillary will be our nominee.

Bernie campaign is only a failure in the sense that he will not be the nominee.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
21. Woosh....
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:44 PM
May 2016

When we end up with a Drumpf presidency then maybe you'll get the point, but probably not... You'll just wail on about Nader comparisons

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
22. If you're implying that we should make Bernie our nominee
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

because you feel he's more electable.
Allow me to point out.
That's not how primaries work.

Hillary is ahead of Bernie by hundreds of delegates and
millions of votes.

So the majority of primary voters feel like she's the best choice
for our nominee.

If she loses in the GE to Trump.
Well that will be a bummer.
But it will be because Trump got more votes.

That's how elections work.

Hard to make the argument that Bernie would be the best Democrat to be the nominee when he can't win the primary.

No chance the primaries get overturned on the opinion
of Bernie supporters that only Bernie can win.

Bernie lost.
He's not going to be the nominee.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
24. You are the one who keeps implying...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:58 PM
May 2016

That the only reason to keep fighting for and supporting Bernie is in the hope he is nominee, our support transcends this corrupt DNC party and this election cycle, it is the building of a new progressive movement to undo the horrific damage DINOs and turd way Democrats have wrought upon our society

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. Hillary has not won.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

You seem to be hung up on win/lose with no thought whatsover about what it all means, so let me remind you that your "team" has not yet won.

Got that, player: Hill has not won.

Plus: your "team," if it were to win, would lose to Trump, so then you could join Trump's "team." Rah rah.

Additionally, your "team," due to its recklessness and lawlessness, just might end up under indictment.

Wouldn't that be interesting?

Go team!



griffi94

(3,733 posts)
30. She has won
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:29 PM
May 2016

No path for Bernie now.

There aren't enough contests left for him to
close the gap.

Hillary will be our nominee.

Sorry

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
3. I needed a break, after New York the Hillary people were downright vile here...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:09 PM
May 2016

Needed to recharge and evade all the negativity from them.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
6. I don't blame you. I do this in a spirit of self-sacrifice
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

because I'm old and there's not going to anyone as good as Bernie again in what's left of my lifetime.

But I agree with your assessment. I used to think Republicans were the ugliest things on the planet.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
7. This is the second Nevada event and just one more of a long line of dirty tricks the HC campaign has
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

deployed this election year. And it was these tactics that firmed up my opinion about HC, and reinforced my support for Bernie Sanders.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
19. I had no idea she was so underhanded & dirty.
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

I had my hopes on Wes Clark & wasn't paying much attention to her dishonest antics. My eyes are wide open now.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
29. What utter nonsense.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

The order in which states hold their primaries has no impact on the overall race.

Had the southern states that Hillary swept voted in the second half rather than the first, one could claim that her support was skyrocketing, while Bernie's was declining.

In the end, it's all about votes and delegates. When in the schedule those votes are cast is irrelevant to the outcome.

I can't believe this actually has to be explained on a website where people consider themselves well-versed in politics.



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