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Sun May 22, 2016, 01:49 PM

The Media Show Trial of Sanders Supporters Continues

What has happened since NV is much more than a one-time lie. This is a propaganda campaign orchestrated in the corporate media, backed up by on-line trolls, and generally presented as "reality". The lie is being repeated incessantly on comedy shows. Other names for this are "The Big Lie", "total immersion propaganda", and the Show Trial (favored by Stalin).

I saw them, two little paperback brothers, the UK or Criminal Code, and the UPK or Code of Criminal Procedure, on a newsstand in the Moscow sub…I read them today touched with emotion. For example, the UPK — the Code of Criminal Procedure:

"Article 139: The accused has the right to set forth his testimony in his own hand, and to demand the right to make corrections in the deposition written by the interrogator."

Oh, if we had only known that in time! But what I should say is: If that were only the way it really was! We were always vainly imploring the interrogator not to write "my repulsive, slanderous fabrications" instead of "my mistaken statements," or not to write "our underground weapons arsenal" instead of "my rusty Finnish knife."

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago


This "re-writing" is exactly what we are seeing after NV:

Booing and cursing after being shutdown by rules violations is rewritten as "violence".

Actual violence by an HRC supporter - who was arrested, BTW - vanishes from TV coverage. The corporate media certainly does not ask HRC to apologize for that high-profile actor. But anonymous plebs who really did nothing but yell? Bernie MUST apologize.

Zero evidence of chairs thrown, physical violence, or arrests of anyone is rewritten as "a riot".

Sen. Boxer flipping people off (video DOES exist) is rewritten as "I was in fear".

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This campaign season is done with politics. It is now down to propaganda, whichever side can shout the loudest and longest. After the primaries, prepare for an absolute shitstorm of propaganda. Do not expect to be enlightened.

As Jacques Ellul said:

"It is sometimes said that two competing propagandas cancel each other out; if, however, one regards propaganda not as a debate of ideas or the promulgation of a doctrine, but as psychological manipulation designed to produce action, one understands that these two propagandas, far from canceling each other out because they are contradictory, have a cumulative effect. A boxer, groggy from a left hook, does not return to normal when he is hit with a right hook; he becomes groggier

........Jacquess Ellul, "Propaganda, the Formation of Men's Attitudes", pp 181-2

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Reply The Media Show Trial of Sanders Supporters Continues (Original post)
arendt May 2016 OP
uponit7771 May 2016 #1
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uponit7771 May 2016 #5
arendt May 2016 #7
Kip Humphrey May 2016 #40
arendt May 2016 #41
Kip Humphrey May 2016 #42
arendt May 2016 #45
arendt May 2016 #4
pmorlan1 May 2016 #8
arendt May 2016 #11
uponit7771 May 2016 #24
pmorlan1 May 2016 #27
cliffordu May 2016 #16
uponit7771 May 2016 #25
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #22
uponit7771 May 2016 #26
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #28
uponit7771 May 2016 #29
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #30
uponit7771 May 2016 #31
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32
uponit7771 May 2016 #35
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #36
uponit7771 May 2016 #37
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #44
uponit7771 May 2016 #46
workinclasszero May 2016 #43
rjsquirrel May 2016 #3
arendt May 2016 #6
rjsquirrel May 2016 #9
arendt May 2016 #10
rjsquirrel May 2016 #12
arendt May 2016 #14
rjsquirrel May 2016 #17
arendt May 2016 #19
Mika May 2016 #13
arendt May 2016 #15
Mika May 2016 #18
arendt May 2016 #20
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21
hootinholler May 2016 #23
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #33
KoKo May 2016 #34
Dem2 May 2016 #38
7wo7rees May 2016 #39

Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:51 PM

1. NV tore veil off Sanders campaign supporters & showed how abusive they HAVE been this whole primary

... and how Sanders whining about an unfair system is whipping up uneeded animosity.

Too bad

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:53 PM

2. Perfect example of the unsubstantiated BIG LIE. Thank you. n/t

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Response to arendt (Reply #2)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:55 PM

5. I agree, the big lie has been Sanders supporter claiming civility and NV shows they don't have any

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #5)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:56 PM

7. Gee, comrade, accusing the victim of what you are doing is so 1937. n/t

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Response to arendt (Reply #7)

Sun May 22, 2016, 04:01 PM

40. Bullies ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS fault the bullied.

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Response to Kip Humphrey (Reply #40)

Sun May 22, 2016, 08:56 PM

41. Given the mirror image lying that is going on here,...

whom exactly are YOU saying the bully is.

Because I'm not the one defending the LIES.

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Response to arendt (Reply #41)

Sun May 22, 2016, 09:10 PM

42. those accusing the victims of course. Bullies also hate reality and are constantly rewriting

history to fit their perspective and inner narrative so as to cover up their own rather significant inadequacies.

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Response to Kip Humphrey (Reply #42)

Sun May 22, 2016, 09:25 PM

45. you still haven't said which side you think...

Are the bullies.

Dnc or sanders.

This is the internet. Vagueness and gotcha go together like ham and cheese.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:54 PM

4. Classic propaganda technique. Do not respond to the accusation, simply attack, attack, attack . n/t

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:57 PM

8. How Appropriate

to see this post in a thread about propaganda.

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Response to pmorlan1 (Reply #8)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:59 PM

11. Exactly. n't

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Response to pmorlan1 (Reply #8)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:35 PM

24. Truth isn't propaganda

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #24)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:37 PM

27. No it's not

so I'll stick to my original comment.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:14 PM

16. Ah, bullshit.

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Response to cliffordu (Reply #16)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:35 PM

25. That's what Sanders has been full of

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:31 PM

22. Can you provide evidence of this violence that SNOPES has rated as false?

 

thank you in advance

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #22)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:36 PM

26. No, I can provide evidence of your strawman seeing I typed abusive behavior

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #26)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:42 PM

28. Would you like a gluten free cookie, nut free?

 

My goodness, people boed people at a political event, and they dared to close their fists! In normal countries that is known as politics, heated a tad, but those are well... politics.


Perhaps we need safe spaces for you guys. I mean that. The stupidity in Nevada, not only was a strategic mistake, but the political adds of how weak democrats are, write themselves.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #28)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:44 PM

29. Nah, picking up chairs over ones head... calling people bitch and other abusive behavior is what

... happened but go ahead and tell yourself that everyone else's eyes are lying to them.

Seems typical

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #29)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:46 PM

30. So people were ahem CITED for that?

 

Nope, as I said, you guys had that whole media narrative fall apart due to the fact that people carry a TV studio in their pockets now.

What happened at Nevada is heated politics, please do avoid planning board meetings, some get more heated than that, or city council meetings.

It is not 2006 anymore.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #30)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:49 PM

31. Nah, other people aren't that vindictive...

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #31)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:56 PM

32. So you think disturbing the peace tickets

 

seen them issued at city hall, is due to vindictiveness? For the record, that city hall meeting was far more ahem, amusing than what happened at Nevada.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #32)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:07 PM

35. No... come on this is silly, people didn't press charges for the Sanders camp being abusive and

.. disruptive because we know they're hurting.

Its time to give hugs and teach the world to sing in perfect harmony and shit no?

tia

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #35)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:10 PM

36. Hold a second right there

 

misdemeanors were committed in the presence of POLICE OFFICERS, you are telling me that cops did not do their duty? This has not one thing to do with the party, but with law enforcement. So now you are accusing officers of not doing their duty when they see misdemeanors committed in their presence.

amirite?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #36)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:12 PM

37. Not a cop so don't ask me, but it IS time to give some hugs no? You get the drum circle I'll get

... the boos

Meet me at the beach

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #37)

Sun May 22, 2016, 09:19 PM

44. You forget, I actually cover this shit

 

And no self serving cop stands by when crimes are commited in their presence. Which incidentally is what you guys, or at least you, allege. (A few others as well).

My goodness what you saw is hot politics. This summer will be lots of fun to watch you guys. If this gives you a case of the outrage, just wait.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #44)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:39 PM

46. Whatever, ... take a hit... have a sit... and lets watch the sun set... "I like to teach the world..

... to sing.."

sigh

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 09:14 PM

43. Yes the general public finally got a good look at the bros.

 

And it was ugly as hell.

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #3)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:55 PM

6. Keep catapulting the BIG LIE.

I gave a list of facts - actually a list of LIES.

Your response is to whine. You have no facts to counter the truth, so you scream "commie".

Utterly predicatable, and predicted.

You got nothing.

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #9)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:59 PM

10. The facts are documented. They are NOT on your side.

You are behaving like a Republican. When the facts don't fit your lying story, ignore the facts.

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #12)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:10 PM

14. Your facts do not support the media allegations.

1) No chairs were thrown.

2) Sen. Boxer sneered at the delegates and walked off stage flipping them off - captured on video.

3) Internet death threats by "supporters" are trivially easy to manufacture in this age. Are these people under arrrest? If not, your claim is bullshit.

4) Nobody knows who won because the chair violated Roberts Rules and arbitrarily disenfranchised delegate, illegally denied a non-voice vote, and arbitrarily gaveled the meeting to a close withour responding, as required, to points of order.

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You keep trying to rewrite reality with IRRELEVANT questions. The questions are irrelevant, because they are not the lies being told by the media. The OP is about specific lies, not about non-criminal, non-violent events. And to claim that this election was honest is an absolute joke.'

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Response to arendt (Reply #6)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:09 PM

13. Not new to DU at all

 

I've been a DUer from day two. My interests are in US/Caribbean relations -primarily Cuba. I've been constantly dealing with the big lies about Cuba that really have no party affiliation - both Rs and Ds deal in the same propaganda on a topic they know nothing about, but are willing to argue to the hilt over their completely uninformed (and provably wrong) propaganda.
Watching the Hillarians do the same here is nothing new, in regards to propelling propaganda, than most American's views on socialist Cuba (at least here on DU).





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Response to Mika (Reply #13)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:11 PM

15. Thank you. I'm sure someone will be right along to call you a Fidel-loving commie. n/t

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Response to arendt (Reply #15)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:19 PM

18. I'm used to it.

 

But, then again, what do I know? I only lived there and go often to visit family (also, commie insiders according to some DUers).

Don't get all rattled over intransigent DUers, you won't change their minds. Your time can be put to better use.



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Response to Mika (Reply #18)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:21 PM

20. Thanks. I do it only to keep our side from being shouted down.

The minute we stop, they will declare themselves to be the sole owners of the "truth".

I know I won't change their minds. But, there are still people who are struggling to wake up from the DNC Dreamworld. I write to wake them up.

Thanks again.

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Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:28 PM

21. YOu know what it is funny about this show trial

 

I was surrounded by these very violent individuals yesterday. Nope, not kidding. We were at the local rally, working on the story and waiting for video to upload. Not for one second did the words, gas mask and tactical helmet cross my mind as I was packing batteries and recorders and food. On the other hand, we are going to be doing the fun and games at the trump rally this coming Friday. A bunch of us old goats were going over how we will watch each other's back and what to carry to that fun, apart of the aforementioned tactical helmet and gas masks. Yup my list includes a first aid kit.

Milk has been mentioned as well. So will need to get a bottle (plastic) to carry some...

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Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:35 PM

23. I disagree

It was orchestrated by the DNC and played by the media.

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Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:57 PM

33. "Getting into politics is like stepping in dogshit." From The Motorcycle Diaries

 

It ain't about hand kissing, polite nods, quiet dissent, and courteous discourse among friends.

"If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen." Harry S. Truman(D)

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Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:00 PM

34. Left Forum Weekend Debates at John Jay College: Topic: "Rage, Rebellion Revolution"

(I don't know if is C-Span Covering this...but, this is the link to where one has to go to hear Progressive News of a Debate on Democracy, these days. Who could have known...it would come to this? I guess those of us who have watched our MSMedia get taken over by Corporatists and the death of newspapers due to the Internet now owned by Rising Oligarchs.)

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'Democracy in the US is a fraud’: Left Forum debates next steps for Sanders movement

Published time: 21 May, 2016 17:16Edited time: 21 May, 2016 21:58

A rigged democratic system, a “grotesque” military fighting unwinnable wars under the “drone commander in chief”, and the future of the movement behind presidential candidate Bernie Sanders were the focus of Day One at the Left Forum in New York City.

This weekend’s theme “Rage, Rebellion, Revolution” brings thousands to John Jay College from Friday through Sunday.

Journalist Chris Hedges, author and activist Tariq Ali, and Code Pink’s Medea Benjamin headlined the opening plenary with fiery remarks moderated by Laura Flanders.




https://www.rt.com/usa/343942-left-forum-day-two/

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Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:21 PM

38. Creative Speculation

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Response to arendt (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:43 PM

39. Thank you arendt, a voice of reason in a storm of insanity.

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