2016 Postmortem
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CNNBernie Sanders digs in
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By Stephen Collinson, CNN
May 23, 2016
Washington (CNN) The stakes of Bernie Sanders' take-it-to-the-convention strategy are rapidly rising as fresh polls underscore Hillary Clinton's vulnerabilities and predict a tight race between her and Donald Trump in the fall.
Still, Sanders is not heeding calls from some Democrats to get out of the race -- or at least cool his rhetoric during the final weeks of the primary season. Instead, he kept up his blistering criticism of Clinton over the weekend and deepened his feud with the party establishment, including endorsing the primary challenger to Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
"The last I heard is that we are a democratic country, and that elections are about vigorous debates over the issues. Secretary Clinton and I disagree," Sanders told Jake Tapper Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." "What the Democratic leadership has got to understand is that not all of my supporters go to these fancy fundraising dinners. They're working people who are hurting now, who want real change in the economy."
"Any objective assessment of our campaign versus Clinton's campaign, I think, will conclude we have the energy, we have the excitement, we have the young people, we have the working people, we can drive a large voter turnout, so that we not only win the White House, but we retain, regain control of the Senate, do well in the House and in governor's chairs up and down the line," Sanders told Tapper.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2016/index.html
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)insta8er
(960 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)he will be endorsing and fundraising for this week.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)But the Senate, now that is a different story.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)One step at a time.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)The man had no coattails whatsoever. In presidential election years, the party that wins the White House usually picks up Congressional seats, but Bill's record on that was pretty dismal-- in 1992, there was no net gain in the Senate , but Democrats lost 9 seats in the House. In 1996, the Democrats lost 2 Senate seats, and picked up only 2 House seats. And unlike Bill, Hillary is a lousy campaigner.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)The Trump Effect at the top of the ticket could hurt downticket Republicans even more. To maximize their seats they draw these razor thin margin districts that are R+1, R+2, R+3 and there are a few Republicans representing districts the Democratic Presidential candidate can win in November. So a strong Democratic wave (something that is bound to happen at some point in a decade, especially in a situation where a Presidential candidate wins) will sweep aside those swing districts and give us the House.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Hillary victory fund.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Lucy Flores and other progressive candidates who endorsed Bernie are also raising a lot in small donations.
DebbieCDC
(2,543 posts)riversedge
(70,186 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)If he has large voter turnout why is he millions of votes behind?
insta8er
(960 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Texas and the south voted before Bernie became well known.
That and the south is very well known for election fraud.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I will accept your apology now. Or you can just continue to act dumb?
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THESE PRINCIPLES?????
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Georgia and SC have black box voting machines.
Alabama jailed Seigleman because he pointed out the fraud.
Texas is home to bushco,
The federal government had to come down hard on the south for voting rights violations.
History is something, eh? You should study it?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)These states singlehandedly gave Hillary the delegate lead, too. Without those four states (which Dems almost never win, btw), Hillary would be losing to Bernie...
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Thanks for your objective and factual post.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)numbers that turn out for rallies and vote count totals. Guess who gets to count the votes? It's not Sanders' people.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)A big Sanders rally is 50,000 people. A small primary turnout is a quarter million people.
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Sometimes Hillary's turnout is higher, sometimes it's nearly tied, and sometimes Bernie's is higher.
insta8er
(960 posts)In the days before Hillary Clinton launched an unprecedented big-money fundraising vehicle with state parties last summer, she vowed to rebuild our party from the ground up, proclaiming when our state parties are strong, we win. Thats what will happen."
But less than 1 percent of the $61 million raised by that effort has stayed in the state parties coffers, according to a POLITICO analysis of the latest Federal Election Commission filings.
The venture, the Hillary Victory Fund, is a so-called joint fundraising committee comprised of Clintons presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and 32 state party committees. The setup allows Clinton to solicit checks of $350,000 or more from her super-rich supporters at extravagant fundraisers including a dinner at George Clooneys house and a concert at Radio City Music Hall featuring Katy Perry and Elton John.
The victory fund has transferred $3.8 million to the state parties, but almost all of that cash ($3.3 million, or 88 percent) was quickly transferred to the DNC, usually within a day or two, by the Clinton staffer who controls the committee, POLITICOs analysis of the FEC records found.
By contrast, the victory fund has transferred $15.4 million to Clintons campaign and $5.7 million to the DNC, which will work closely with Clintons campaign if and when she becomes the partys nominee. And most of the $23.3 million spent directly by the victory fund has gone toward expenses that appear to have directly benefited Clintons campaign, including $2.8 million for salary and overhead and $8.6 million for web advertising that mostly looks indistinguishable from Clinton campaign ads and that has helped Clinton build a network of small donors who will be critical in a general election expected to cost each side well in excess of $1 billion.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-little-for-state-parties-222670
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)He's in it to win it and change politics as we know it.
Everyone should be on board, even the Trumpees.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)when he first started campaigning. No you don't Bernie.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)They have the time to go to fund raisers.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Of course, that includes dessert and a free video of Hillary shouting at those in attendance.
Money,money, money, gotta love the money.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)You know? Us lazy slabs not working, but going to high end fancy dinners.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)How was it?
randome
(34,845 posts)Good God, the longer this farce goes on, the more I see that the electorate -as a kind of gestalt mind- is actually very discerning. Sanders has had 25 years to make his case that he, and only he, cares about working people. Yet voters have rejected him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)that is run by the establishment owned by Big Money Fat Cats and they favor Clinton. The world knows what a fraud our electorial system is:
The question is why would people that think they are Democrats side with the Big Money Fat Cats that cheat the election process? A rhetorical question. It's an idolization of the Wealthy.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Give' em hell Bernie.
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imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Ahhhh. Working class people not invited, especially to the Wall Street events.
Some working class people are still being fooled by the former Senator from Wall Street.
That's unfortunate but you can't reach everyone.
insta8er
(960 posts)I thought we Bernie guys and gals were better than that, we don't stifle others people's speech. Even when it is far from the truth. But just a sock puppet come on people...
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)insta8er
(960 posts)who felt the need to start cursing. I don't mind the cursing being hidden, it doesn't add anything to the conversation. But the sockpuppet was actually quite funny.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)What a piece of work he turned out to be!!! He doesn't give a fig about the damage he's doing to the prospective nominee and the party itself.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Bernie hasn't "damage" Hillary at all. He's been incredibly respectful and easy on her.
Hillary has damaged herself with her ties to big business and Wall Street.
That's who she mainly represents.
That's where the money is.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)His abrasive manner and continual attacks on Hillary and the party are souring his supporters even more. Does he even care about uniting the party around the nominee? Hillary will be the nominee. I don't know why that's so hard for his supporters to grasp.