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Tue May 24, 2016, 12:48 AM

Hillary Clinton Now Losing To Donald Trump



Remember when Clinton won all those early primaries and the biggest, or one of the biggest, reasons people supported her was her "electability" (always a reality-less talking point that never had any basis in reality)?

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Reply Hillary Clinton Now Losing To Donald Trump (Original post)
kaleckim May 2016 OP
tazkcmo May 2016 #1
oldandhappy May 2016 #2
kaleckim May 2016 #3
oldandhappy May 2016 #5
AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #6
oldandhappy May 2016 #7
Fumesucker May 2016 #4

Response to kaleckim (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 12:51 AM

1. It's o.k. No problem.

It's her turn.

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Response to kaleckim (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 12:51 AM

2. These declarations of winning and losing are crazy.

We are five months out. Polls will change after the conventions. Inhale! These polls mean nothing today.

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #2)

Tue May 24, 2016, 12:55 AM

3. Thank you for the tired talking point

Now, polls don't matter? Do you take this position on polls in general? At what point do they start to matter? Did all you Clinton supporters say this about polls when she was beating Trump by double digits? What will the public learn about Clinton that is likely to radically change the situation? Be honest, given all the stuff swirling around her, new information is just as likely to hurt her than help her. Also, can you provide evidence that polls this far out, especially in the internet era, are radically different than the end results, especially given that almost everyone already knows both Clinton and Trump (so not the same as Obama in 2008 in any way)? The Clinton talking point is not logically convincing, and Cenk touched on it in the video too.

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Response to kaleckim (Reply #3)

Tue May 24, 2016, 01:11 AM

5. actually I am not voting for clinton

Each day there are polls all over the place. Yesterday two points this way, tomorrow two points that way. Nothing I can trust to be consistent. For me to see polls that matter, the polls have to develop a consistency and a reliability. Polls that jump around mean nothing to me. I had no idea that what I said was a clinton talking point. Boo on me. Sincerely I say the polls will be different after the conventions. There will be two candidates. The polling information will be more steady. And my heart goes out to Florida and Ohio where millions of dollars in ads will flood the people in those states. I am overwhelmingly grateful I am off MSM. If I were a genuinely undecided in Ohio, I would take off for a long backpack trip -- maybe a good time to hike the Pacific Crest Trail.

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #2)

Tue May 24, 2016, 01:29 AM

6. Her numbers never go up while she is in the spotlight

 

they only go up when she's out of the public eye

this is Clinton's high-water mark. She is not and has never been the Comeback Kid. Bill could pull that off, she can't.

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Response to AgerolanAmerican (Reply #6)

Tue May 24, 2016, 01:39 AM

7. I have gotten myself into a pickle

Seems I am seen as a clinton supporter and that is a flip from what I am. BUT what I was trying to say is that the polls are not steady. Every day there are polls with a different person ahead or behind. And I sincerely believe that the polls will steady out after the conventions. Then we will have the representatives of the two major parties. So when I see headlines daily about this or that person being ahead or not being able to win, my eyes roll. And yes, your point about her numbers go down when people are looking is a good point.

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Response to kaleckim (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 01:04 AM

4. A funny thing happened on the way to the Coronation

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