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Wed May 25, 2016, 02:20 PM

Two possible reasons I havent see discussed as to why Hillary reneged on CA debate.

1 - It's very possible that after such a long primary she is too exhausted to debate. Unlike Bernie who has built up reserves of stamina from his years doing long-distance running, Hillary just doesn't have the same reserves. If you recall, Huma commented in an email how annoyed she was that Hillary often complained of how exhausted she was. If Hillary felt continually exhausted back then when she was SoS how would it be different now? I'm not saying she has zero energy but it is possible that it's flagging.

2 - The other reason for backing out of the debate is that all her energy is being focused on prepping and being coached for the FBI interview. Answers need to be carefully crafted and that takes time.




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Reply Two possible reasons I havent see discussed as to why Hillary reneged on CA debate. (Original post)
snagglepuss May 2016 OP
Beausoir May 2016 #1
snagglepuss May 2016 #3
realmirage May 2016 #8
lagomorph777 May 2016 #16
The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #2
dchill May 2016 #4
AverageJoe May 2016 #7
Aerows May 2016 #11
snagglepuss May 2016 #12
dchill May 2016 #13
CincyDem May 2016 #5
The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #17
msongs May 2016 #6
snagglepuss May 2016 #10
cali May 2016 #9
bjo59 May 2016 #14
LAS14 May 2016 #15
question everything May 2016 #18

Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:21 PM

1. Her time is better spent elsewhere. Bernie lost. Hillary is focusing on the GE now.

 

But your theories are more fun!

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Response to Beausoir (Reply #1)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:26 PM

3. Bwahahah! If Bernie has lost why the pressure to force him

to quit which only alienates his base more?

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #3)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:33 PM

8. Hillary has never once pressured Bernie to quit

 

But those are little facts that aren't all that fun

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #3)

Wed May 25, 2016, 03:53 PM

16. Yeah, Bernie lost!

Hahahaha!

Fantasy land. The reason they've been so desperately begging Bernie to quit is they knew this shitstorm would hit before June 7th. The storm has hit. "Inevitable" is now "evitable."

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:21 PM

2. Only 2 possible reasons? I'm sure you can do

better than that!

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #2)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:27 PM

4. Laryngitis of the lie-bone?

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Response to dchill (Reply #4)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:32 PM

7. I haven't posted or responded to a post in years

But this made me really and truly laugh out loud. I just had to say thank you.

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Response to AverageJoe (Reply #7)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:40 PM

11. I must admit

 

I nearly fell out of my chair on that one myself!

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Response to AverageJoe (Reply #7)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:46 PM

12. Yep that one made me howl.

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Response to AverageJoe (Reply #7)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:57 PM

13. You are WELCOME!

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:29 PM

5. 3 - realistic political calculation...nothing to be gained for anyone


And I don't use the phrase "political calculation" in a negative way. We're in the home stretch and she's up by 8 lengths, if not more. Unless she has a complete total implosion, it's over...and I say this as a "voted for Bernie in the primary" guy.

Re: stamina. Hard to imagine. Having worked with a fair number of senior leaders in a couple Fortune 50 companies, folks like her don't have stamina. They have "habits of stamina" that far exceed what most of us think of as stamina. It's the non-sports version of "just do it". Get up in the morning, "do it" all day...sleep...do it again tomorrow. And it never stops. IMHO, her habits of stamina have enough inertia that she's like the energizer bunny. Tired - maybe. Losing stamina - I don't think so.

Re: FBI interview. Yeah, maybe a time suck and I'm not buying that it's enough of an issue to influence the debate. After the 11 hours of Benghazi Circus, the FBI will be straight forward (less political, more legal, probably more fact based vs. ideology based).

So my vote is #3...there's no upside for her (especially on FOX...lol). I know she said she would debate in California so some might say this is a flip-flop from her previous commitment but ask yourself a question...If Bernie was sensible about how to approach his endgame, he wouldn't be pushing this one and there would be no issue.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #5)

Wed May 25, 2016, 03:55 PM

17. Any posting with a baited title like that

Was bound to contain 2 choice sour bile
suggestions. I don't know why it was limited to only two when there is a whole universe of possibilities that could be dreamed up.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:31 PM

6. bernie cuts a deal with fox news and expects her to go along with it. not likely nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #6)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:37 PM

10. She agreed to debate and she's reneging. If she doesn't like FOX let her find someone else.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 02:34 PM

9. There's no upside for her. That simple

 

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 03:13 PM

14. The health reason crossed my mind immediately. Mostly, however, I think it's down to making

sure she doesn't take any chances that could result in her unfavorables increasing even more before the last primaries are completed.

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Response to snagglepuss (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2016, 03:52 PM

15. She didn't "back out." She never agreed to a Fox debate and...

... would have been foolish to do so.

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #15)

Wed May 25, 2016, 03:55 PM

18. Indeed. And, after all the debates, what is there to say?

To tell Sanders how he is assuring a Trump White House? We know this.

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