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Fri May 27, 2016, 06:48 AM

 

538:The system isn't rigged against Sanders

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/

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Reply 538:The system isn't rigged against Sanders (Original post)
bigdarryl May 2016 OP
Betty Karlson May 2016 #1
Cobalt Violet May 2016 #2
bigdarryl May 2016 #3
Cobalt Violet May 2016 #6
Dem2 May 2016 #7
rock May 2016 #14
LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #17
B Calm May 2016 #4
Dem2 May 2016 #8
DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #10
Dem2 May 2016 #16
boston bean May 2016 #9
B Calm May 2016 #12
randome May 2016 #5
Eric J in MN May 2016 #20
FoxNewsSucks May 2016 #11
gollygee May 2016 #13
Gothmog May 2016 #15
lagomorph777 May 2016 #18
Eric J in MN May 2016 #19
Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #21

Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 06:50 AM

1. Friday Comedy Hour started early this week...

 

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 06:59 AM

2. 538 is not a credible source of info

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Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #2)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:10 AM

3. Your delusional 538 has always been used on DU for reference and information

 

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #3)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:23 AM

6. They said she had a greater than 99% chance of winning Michigan.

One of my favorite DU moments was the morning after when Bernie won Michigan 50-48. That was the best. They've been very wrong about a lot of things this season. Better of going to a psychic.

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Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #6)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:25 AM

7. I hope you're never wrong about anything. Ever

You act like they took the polls too, that's just beyond the pale bitterness.

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Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #6)

Fri May 27, 2016, 08:08 AM

14. Don't understand statistics?

Maybe you need an anecdote. My MIL once said to me, "The weatherman predicted a 99% chance of rain today, but not a drop. I guess he was wrong." She didn't understand statistics either. OTOH, Bernie semi-gets it. He thinks he still has a chance. Well, he does: the Martians may land and spirit Hillary away. Could happen.

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Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #6)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:04 AM

17. You make a good point about Michigan

and then you totally discredit your post with the psychic comment.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:18 AM

4. She's only winning because the DNC oligarchy gave her a 500+ super delegate lead

 

head start before the first vote was cast in Iowa. Oh yes, it was rigged from the get-go!

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Response to B Calm (Reply #4)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:28 AM

8. It burns

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #8)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:33 AM

10. They have made mistakes but they been the most accurate forecaster this year.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #10)

Fri May 27, 2016, 08:59 AM

16. So you're saying that polling + intelligence = more accurate result?

That's shocking. Better not let the oligarchy know about this heresy!

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Response to B Calm (Reply #4)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:29 AM

9. No, she has won hundreds more pledged delegates and millions more popular votes.

Superdelegates have nothing to do with that fact.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #9)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:35 AM

12. Sure, but you have to admit starting the primary with a 500+ super delegate didn't hurt. She

 

was shoved down our throats from the DNC oligarchy from the get-go.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:18 AM

5. Math sometimes hurts, doesn't it?

 


[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #5)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:17 AM

20. I could use projections to

...find I have a 100% chance to win the lottery.

It would be math, but not accurate math.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:33 AM

11. Strictly speaking, that is an accurate way to say it,

the system isn't rigged "against" Sanders or anyone else so much as it is rigged "FOR" establishment insiders.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 07:40 AM

13. The Superdelegate system is a way of rigging the primary

That's the intent of them. However she is winning even without them, so that's irrelevant.

And I don't think closed primaries are rigged. There are legitimate reasons for choosing closed primaries, just as there are legitimate reasons for choosing open primaries. If you think closed primaries are rigged, then you'd really have to think caucuses are, because not very many people can participate in them. First of all, you have to be a registered Democrat (at least in Iowa - is it different elsewhere?) so it starts out just as closed as a closed primary. But then you also have to have the ability to physically remain at the caucus, and not everyone can do that. It requires much more time than just voting.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 08:13 AM

15. Good analysis by 538

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:07 AM

18. This just in from the Trump campaign: Trump is not an asshole.

Neither source is very credible.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:10 AM

19. Bogus projections.

Sanders got 23 net pledged delegates from the MN Caucus (he won with 62%.)

According to Harry Enten and Nate Silver, Clinton would have won MN if we had an open or closed primary and she'd have gotten 1 net delegate from MN in either case.

In real life, MN and WI are similar. Both gave Obama 53% against Romney.

Bernie Sanders won the Wisconsin Primary with 57%.

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Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:43 AM

21. The whole system is rigged against working class people and candidates that represent us.

 

And not just talking about the elections.

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