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Both Hillary and Donald are afraid to debate Bernie. (Original Post) Scuba May 2016 OP
They're not affraid. Sanders is small potatoes. They will debate each other like you've seen in Trust Buster May 2016 #1
No ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #22
OMG that's priceless. lagomorph777 May 2016 #23
The voters have prevented Hill from reaching 2383 pledged delegates. senz May 2016 #35
Sanders fell much farther short. Game, set, match. Trust Buster May 2016 #39
Nah, only 284 fewer out of 2383 total. And 9 primaries to go! senz May 2016 #44
Small potatoes? One of Hillary's big mistakes was assuming that Bernie is small potatoes. bjo59 May 2016 #52
they're bored with his stump speech cut and pasted into a "debate" lol. btw she has debated him msongs May 2016 #2
And she has won those debates. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #4
Every last one of them too. Matt_R May 2016 #63
For different reasons but I agree. HRC doesn't want to face extensive questions on FBI investigation riderinthestorm May 2016 #3
No they are not. Everyone knows what Bernie will say. He hasn't come up with upaloopa May 2016 #5
+1 oasis May 2016 #32
lol, you sure sound like you're afraid of him. senz May 2016 #38
Excellent post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! asuhornets May 2016 #58
+1 Maven May 2016 #61
That's not what Hillary said. Uncle Joe May 2016 #6
+ 100 senz May 2016 #31
K&R! silvershadow May 2016 #7
Bernie vs Trump: Trump is orange marmalade afterward lagomorph777 May 2016 #8
Don't think she is irrelevant... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #10
Hard to say, she has quite a head start but sudden engine failure. lagomorph777 May 2016 #14
No engine failure that I can see... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #20
Welcome to DU LOL rhett o rick May 2016 #24
Bye! nt stillwaiting May 2016 #49
Wow, delusional much? All you newbies are following todays meme, say anything to deflect litlbilly May 2016 #57
If Bernie agrees to a joint fundraiser with Trump, he will be sorry. Tal Vez May 2016 #9
Some tech firm already offered to put up the money. Trump will chicken out. Scuba May 2016 #12
Yes, he just backed out. Tal Vez May 2016 #21
Yeah, that's it. They're very, very afraid. 11 more days. grossproffit May 2016 #11
LOL. Yes your right. Hillary Clinton, who wiped the floor with Sanders in every debate is livetohike May 2016 #13
No benefit will come to the Democrats by further dividing the party. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #16
Then someone should tell Sanders to stop pretending he can win. n/t livetohike May 2016 #18
I would have to disagree ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #26
If you think he came out on top in any of them, then you are biased. the fact is livetohike May 2016 #29
Okay ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #43
LOL. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. She changed her positions every rhett o rick May 2016 #36
Don't forget O'Malley. NCTraveler May 2016 #15
Because of Bernie, Hill can't get to 2383 pledged delegates. senz May 2016 #30
I don't view it as an inconvenient truth. NCTraveler May 2016 #48
Clinton has already debated him several times KingFlorez May 2016 #17
They agreed to a debate this month ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #25
She doesn't have any reason to debate the loser KingFlorez May 2016 #41
Her reason is that they agreed, and this is not yet wrapped up. ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #47
She shouldn't be afraid to debate. But she demonstrated that she is afraid. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #37
Yes, you should go with that.....rather than the reality is a waste of fucking time. nt Sheepshank May 2016 #19
Were the 20+ debates in 2008 ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #27
It's just no fun debating a sincere, high-minded policy wonk. senz May 2016 #28
yeah, she's terrified of Bernie. zappaman May 2016 #33
Or both know he's out of the race.nt sufrommich May 2016 #34
Hillary has to tack right now so she can't be debating Sanders. She tacked left when rhett o rick May 2016 #40
Sanders side show is out of business next week. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #42
Bernie tells truth. oldandhappy May 2016 #45
Agreed. Especially now that OIG report is out. floriduck May 2016 #46
There's no point to debating him. None. bettyellen May 2016 #50
Um, that's crazy as to Hillary seeing she has ALREADY debated him MULTIPLE times. RBInMaine May 2016 #51
Yup. Shadowflash May 2016 #53
Why bother? He just wants attention. bravenak May 2016 #54
He would call them both on their endless lies and flip flops. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #55
What a sweet debate that would be... Fairgo May 2016 #56
It would have been fun to watch both of the wagging their WhiteTara May 2016 #59
Can ya blame them? imagine2015 May 2016 #60
GMAFB. No one is "afraid" of Bernie. Maven May 2016 #62
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. They're not affraid. Sanders is small potatoes. They will debate each other like you've seen in
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

every presidential election during your lifetime. The voters have decided that Sanders just isn't relevant.

 
22. No
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

They are both backing out of their agreements to debate because they are both pathetic and flawed candidates.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. OMG that's priceless.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

They are TERRIFIED. Bernie is rising just as Hillary has finally sunk her campaign.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. Nah, only 284 fewer out of 2383 total. And 9 primaries to go!
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

If you realized what is at stake you'd drop the silly sports analogies.

msongs

(67,199 posts)
2. they're bored with his stump speech cut and pasted into a "debate" lol. btw she has debated him
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

multiple times

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
3. For different reasons but I agree. HRC doesn't want to face extensive questions on FBI investigation
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
May 2016

Trump because he knows it's his worst forum.

Not so sure their reluctance revolves around Bernie but I'm sure its a factor.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. No they are not. Everyone knows what Bernie will say. He hasn't come up with
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

anything new in months. He is out of money and needs all the free air time he can get. Why should Hillary do his work for him?

Tomorrow he will be at a rally in Santa Maria, CA, where I live. I am not going of course but I'll bet I could give his stump speach for him.

No body but no body is afraid of Bernie.

He lost the primary.

80% of his people will be voting for Hillary in the general.

The rest can't sit on their asses and make up more conspiricy theories about why he didn't win.

Hillary will be the 45th President and first female President.

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Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
6. That's not what Hillary said.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:01 PM
May 2016



Whoops, my bad this is from 2008 when Hillary had different beliefs regarding the Presidency being the most important job in the world, the toughest job in the world and that you should be willing to campaign for every vote and debate anytime, anywhere.


Thanks for the thread, Scuba.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
10. Don't think she is irrelevant...
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

Especially since she, and not Bernie Sanders, is about ready to clinch the Dem nomination for POTUS.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Hard to say, she has quite a head start but sudden engine failure.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

On the other hand, she is starting from zero with Trump, and her record is finally coming to light, the GE is not a realistic possibility for her. So, not POTUS, not relevant.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
20. No engine failure that I can see...
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

Especially here in California where she's looking very good to take the state not too long from now.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
57. Wow, delusional much? All you newbies are following todays meme, say anything to deflect
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

whats coming about the email scandal.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
9. If Bernie agrees to a joint fundraiser with Trump, he will be sorry.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

Trump will want to control the funds. He will state that he needs to vet the women's groups that receive the funds because he can't have any abortion providers, etc. The problem is that if Trump is permitted to control the funds, he will probably steal them. Or, what is the same thing, he will give the funds to people associated with his cause in exchange for their political support.

Several months ago, Trump skipped a debate with the explanation that he wanted to raise funds for veterans. As I understand it, some or all of that money still hasn't been distributed, and it's been months.

If Sanders agrees to Trump's terms, Sanders will be dependent upon Trump to properly handle the funds. That will be a huge mistake and it will place Sanders in a position that will almost certainly lead to embarrassment, or worse. And, if Sanders ever complains, he will again be seen to be complaining from a submissive position. Trump will use every opportunity to encourage the public to see that HE is in control and that Sanders is just along for the ride. Trump is very conscious of how he looks vis-a-vis everyone else around him. Sanders needs to steer clear of any situations that provide Trump with more control because Trump will abuse it every time. He's a con man. It's what he does.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
21. Yes, he just backed out.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

Before Trump backed out, Bernie should have turned the situation around by dictating terms to Trump. Anyone who deals with Trump must never allow himself to be placed in a submissive role waiting for Trump. Sanders should have assumed a dominant posture and then, when Trump backed out, call Trump a coward.

livetohike

(22,084 posts)
13. LOL. Yes your right. Hillary Clinton, who wiped the floor with Sanders in every debate is
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:11 PM
May 2016

afraid to debate him yet again. To what end?

She is the nominee. He is the runner up in a two person race. It's over.

 
26. I would have to disagree
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

She came out with the edge in some, they tied some, and there were a couple that Bernie looked much stronger. If you think she wiped the floor in all of them than you are incredibly biased.

livetohike

(22,084 posts)
29. If you think he came out on top in any of them, then you are biased. the fact is
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

she is an excellent, knowledgeable debater. He is not. He comes off extremely irritable and poor temperament. His many gestures are distracting and cover what he is trying to say.

 
43. Okay
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

You can say what you want, but a majority of the focus groups and every single poll (Not scientific, but the focus groups are) disagree with you. Hillary also made many rude gestures/faces and many times had an awful tone. Her constant interrupting and lying were pretty bad in some debates too. I'm willing to admit that there were some debates that Bernie missed some big opportunities and I felt Clinton had the slight edge for viewers that were uninformed coming in because of it, and in some debates they pretty much tied, but there were also some (Look at the Michigan debate) where Clinton got steamrolled. Keep living in your bubble of blissful ignorance though.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
36. LOL. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. She changed her positions every
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:32 PM
May 2016

debate. What is her stand on fracking now? Or medical marijuana or the TPP or min wage? Not that her fans care where she stands. Authoritarian Adulation is what it is.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
48. I don't view it as an inconvenient truth.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

It is the truth. It's also a myopic view of the process. Interesting that I don't feel inconvenienced.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
17. Clinton has already debated him several times
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

And why should she be scared? Is Sanders planning to tackle her or something?

 
25. They agreed to a debate this month
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:22 PM
May 2016

and now she is backing out. She is scared to be confronted with all of her lies about the emails and Bernie getting the edge in California. If this were wrapped up she would show some integrity, follow through with her agreement, and move on to win the nomination. If you want to ignore the facts that's your choice.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
41. She doesn't have any reason to debate the loser
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:35 PM
May 2016

And that is what Sanders is, a loser. Nothing but a loser. I'll leave it at that.

 
47. Her reason is that they agreed, and this is not yet wrapped up.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

You could tell me that that quote came from Donald Trump and I would believe you. Feel free to ignore her lack of integrity if you like, but it reflects poorly upon you and the party.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
37. She shouldn't be afraid to debate. But she demonstrated that she is afraid.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

You'll have to ask her why it was worth breaking another promise.

 
27. Were the 20+ debates in 2008
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

A waste of time too? Should politicians not show some integrity and hold up their end of a bargain? Hillary wanted more debates, and in order to get them she agreed to one this month. Now she is backing out.

zappaman

(20,605 posts)
33. yeah, she's terrified of Bernie.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

All those other debates only gave her more votes and delegates than him.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
40. Hillary has to tack right now so she can't be debating Sanders. She tacked left when
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:34 PM
May 2016

she did. You know how she is now against fracking, or is she? She doesn't like how the TPP is written. Change the font and she's on board.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
59. It would have been fun to watch both of the wagging their
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

fingers at each other. They could have both stuttered when asked foreign policy questions, but they would have had a great time shouting their stump speeches over each other.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
62. GMAFB. No one is "afraid" of Bernie.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:58 PM
May 2016

There is no point in having a presidential debate with someone who won't be the nominee of his party. I know a lot of you are praying for an indictment but even if that happens (which it won't) there is no upside to a debate with the runner-up at this point. It changes nothing.

Frankly this whole fake-Trump-debate debacle makes Bernie look like a fool desperate to extend his shelf life as a candidate. It just gave Trump more press attention which he used to mock Bernie as irrelevant and shit on Hillary and the Democratic Party in general.

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