Hillary receiving millions from former Ted Cruz billionaire donor

[pinebox]

EDIT--- When you have Hillary supporters openly supporting this action in replies below and thinking this is ok, something is seriously fucked up.

Once again, digging around on Google brings up a lot of stuff.
This morning just now I found this. I was shocked because as far as I can tell, this really hasn't been reported on much.

Who is Robert Mercer?




Well from Wikipedia, his entry goes like this;

Robert Mercer (born July 11, 1946) is an American computer scientist and co-CEO of Renaissance Technologies, a hedge fund. He is a major donor to conservative political causes. Mercer has donated to Super PACs affiliated with Freedom Partners, Club for Growth Action, and John R. Bolton.

In addition to the money he has spent on political campaigns, estimated at $32 million as of 2016, Mercer has invested millions of dollars in the Heritage Foundation, the media outlet Breitbart.com, and Cambridge Analytica.

In 2015, the Washington Post called Mercer one of the ten most influential billionaires in politics. Mercer is a major financial supporter of the 2016 presidential campaign of Ted Cruz, contributing $11 million to a super PAC associated with the candidate. Reporter Zachary Mider, writing for Bloomberg in January 2016, called Mercer "the biggest single donor" in the 2016 U.S. presidential race.

Mercer has given $750,000 to the Club for Growth, $2 million to American Crossroads, and $2.5 million to Freedom Partners Action Fund. In 2010, Mercer financially supported Art Robinson's efforts to unseat Peter DeFazio in Oregon's 4th congressional district. In the 2013-2014 election cycle, Mercer donated the fourth largest amount of money among individual donors, and the second most among Republican donors. The Mercer Family Foundation, run by Mercer's daughter, Rebekah, has also donated to a variety of conservative causes.

Mercer was the main financial backer of the Jackson Hole Summit, a conference that took place in Wyoming in August 2015 to advocate for the gold standard. He has also supported Doctors for Disaster Preparedness and Fred Kelly Grant, an Idaho activist who encourages legal challenges to environmental laws. Mercer has supported a campaign for the death penalty in Nebraska and funded ads in New York critical of the so-called "ground-zero mosque".According to associates interviewed by Bloomberg, Mercer is concerned with the monetary and banking systems of the United States, which he believes are in danger from government meddling

So why is the guy who donated millions to Red Cruz's campaign https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00033085&type=f now suddenly donating to Hillary's campaign?
Yup because it's happening. https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/18/us/politics/facing-money-gap-hillary-clinton-slowly-warms-to-super-pac-gifts.html

What is going on here? Well I think it's pretty much in your face. Hillary is courting big Republican money and it's quite obvious but when you attend a fundraiser which is hosted by a former NRA lobbyist who helped kill universal background checks in 2013 https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/ it's pretty much a sure fire bet that Captain Obvious is involved.

What a tangled web Hillary has woven. From FBI investigations to courting Republican billionaires. Tell us again, who side is she really on?

[cantbeserious]

1. HRC Is Owned By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Make No Mistake About Her Loyalties

eom

[pinebox]

2. This is utterly disgusting how everything is so intertwined

[cantbeserious]

97. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lessor Of Two Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[FarPoint]

7. Prove it that a she is owned?

You are just spewing trash talk at the moment....

[pinebox]

12. Well, sure

You asked.





That second one is older obviously. Obvious due to low amounts.

[FarPoint]

37. You have a reputation...

Spamming is your friend when you desire to be a bully....So, you disagree then, don't know how to debate so photo spam the thread to obstruct discussion...

Got it...

[99Forever]

63. When you can't refute the facts, call it spamming and shoot the messenger, eh?

You prove Pinebox's point quite nicely. Thanks.

[FarPoint]

68. What ever...

I don't possess the need to power struggle with you and your peers.

[99Forever]

72. Busted.

This would be an appropriate time to apologize for your behaviours.

[Bohunk68]

111. You were given an answer and you then call it spamming?

Can't take that seriously at all.

[Herman4747]

62. QUICK, EXCELLENT REPLY!! n/t

[Herman4747]

65. QUICK, EXCELLENT REPLY!! n/t

[rhett o rick]

27. Since you don't care, why deny it. Her and Sanders are clearly not on the same page

with regard to who they are beholden to. Sanders is beholden to the People and Clinton is beholden to the billionaires.

Not sure why you fight it? Are you trying to get yourself to believe she is honest?

[amborin]

131. +10000

[CorporatistNation]

133. Yes Indeed! Her Loyalties Remain With Those Who Write The Checks! Totally Owned And Operated By

The People That Write The GD CHECKS$ Then She does what?

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[FarPoint]

3. Campaigns are ridiculously expensive.I don't care from where or by whom actually donates now....

It's a fight to the finish... Campaign Finance Reform is a vital change needed ASAP.

[pinebox]

5. You don't care who donates?

Do you care if people post RW links on DU because one is a lot more important than the other.

[FarPoint]

8. I stand by my statement.

We have yet to change Citizens United....such change needs to happen to stop the flood of funds needed for a candidate campaign.

[pinebox]

15. So you enable the system

Typical.

[FarPoint]

22. Apparently you can't comprehend a statement.

Go back and read my post.

[pinebox]

33. I can and apparently you don't realize what you wrote

"Campaigns are ridiculously expensive.I don't care from where or by whom actually donates now...."

It is what it is.

[FarPoint]

35. Read the post..

Don't cherry pick....

[pinebox]

38. I read the post

You said you don't care.
Don't spin it. You enable the system that we have and defended it. Just like your candidate, always capitulating to conservative causes.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You think it's ok that Hillary has Republican donors? Really? REALLY? Ted RWNJ Cruz's biggest donor no less?

[FarPoint]

44. I sense soon, you will fade away....

Bernie is in the campaign morgue...

[pinebox]

45. Nope sorry activists never stop fighting

For what's right and against what's wrong and you my friend are wrong.

[AzDar]

48. ...

[pinebox]

50. :)

[FarPoint]

73. Another one to fall on the sword...

Accomplished exactly....zero.

[pinebox]

123. Filling stadiums is accomplishing zero?

Appointinbg people like Cornel West is zero? Winning the votes of the future of America is zero?
Meanwhile what has Hillary done in the last 18 months? FBI is what.

[FarPoint]

128. The NFL does it evey Sunday during football season. Just folks having fun...

Nothing accomplished there either.

[pinebox]

139. Yeah is that why your candidate is unable to do it? lol?

[passiveporcupine]

136. then why are you voting for the candidate who loves the money?

Bernie is trying to change the campaign finance system, not Hillary. She lives for the money game. She's too good at getting it from wealthy people, and she never wants to give up that power.

[FarPoint]

138. Bernie is not changing anything..

He just runs his mouth about change and claiming to be some Savior yet had no plan, no foundation for change and his timing is all but self-seeking opportunist trash talk.

Change should of started several years ago when Citizen United became legal. Changing and shaming one Party, one candidate for using all available resources to win a financially burdensome campaign is absurd. More like it's unjustified.

[MFM008]

126. well maybe 27 dollars

will get her behind like Sanders is.

[Sheepshank]

9. Donations to Hillary by any Republican right now is all about putting Trump away

The fact that they previously backed Cruz confirms that.

[okasha]

109. Of course it is.

Not too long ago, ability to bring Republicans over to the Democratic side was a universal Sanders talking point.

Now that Hillary is doing just that--because rational Republicans are just as appalled by Trump as cool-headed Democrats are--bringing the R's over is a horrible thing and would only be done by a horrible person.

'Course, the fact that R's are actually substantively supporting Democrats is probably a very sore point now that Sanders' fundraising has dried up.

[eridani]

137. Sanders wants to convert Republican voters. Clinton wants to convert Republican billionaires

That is actually different.

[TimPlo]

11. "Campaign Finance Reform is a vital change needed ASAP."

And think HRC is one to do it? It be like asking a heroin addict to get rid of all drug dealing in the area. If you are one most obvious abusers of money/politics how in hell can anyone actually think they are going to fix it?

[rhett o rick]

29. Your logic is backwards. Use corruption to fight corruption. Right. Ironic how Citizens United is

now embraced by the Clinton crowd. "It's ok if MY candidate does it." The Clinton new motto.

[Hydra]

46. So you don't care who she gets money from and who she will owe when in office?

Just change that H to a red R and be done with it.

[JimDandy]

134. OMG! And you call yourself a Dem?

Campaigns are ridiculously expensive.I don't care from where or by whom actually donates now....

It's a fight to the finish... Campaign Finance Reform is a vital change needed ASAP.

Another "Hillary Must Win AT ANY COST" supporter.

Raise the damn funds yourself you Hillary supporters, just like we did for Bernie. If she doesn't even have enough grassroots supporters to back her, what the hell is she doing in the race!

[NWCorona]

4. Anybody notice that the ad buys started again after the GOP money started flowing?

It started in Kentucky.

[pinebox]

6. Ya I have

[seabeyond]

10. Good, she is going to need money to kick Trumps ass, right?

[libdem4life]

31. That's rich. Pun intended.

Maybe the Democrats shat in their nest. They decry a recent Democrat who is long known to vote with Democrats and go hat on hand to a What????

That discussion is against this Board' s policy I thought. Now apparently it is OK to put the names Hillary and Republican and money in the same sentence...as long as the other words are not Bernie and It's rigged.

[seabeyond]

91. Pragmatic, reality. But, wtf, I get that. Who wants to play in reality.

[beachbum bob]

13. bring every bodies money to the table and bring their votes too

stop trump is the goal

and hillary is our nominee

[pinebox]

16. When you have the same donors

Tell us, who is who?

[leftinportland]

24. Exactly...

and if she wins what will she have to do to pay them back?

[jonmac511]

80. nothing

We all know that billionaires and big business never expect a return on their investment.



I have a huge problem how someone can be critical of a law bit not critical of the person that takes the most advantage of that law, for any reason.

[reddread]

112. you have the same agenda

[rhett o rick]

30. Win at any cost is what I hear. How typical of the conservative wing or our party. Sell you soul

if need be. Right? I think it's called situational ethics.

[Zambero]

39. There is no conservative wing anymore

The Dixiecrats are long gone to the GOP. Even many long-standing conservatives are no longer considered "conservative" enough by that party. And even though the GOP no longer has a liberal (or even moderate) wing, anything or anyone outside the bona fide nutbag right is referred to as "liberal". Kasich is a prime example. Labels are almost meaningless these days.

[rhett o rick]

88. Labels are never meaningless. There are clearly two distinct groups in the Democratic

Party. The Sanders/Warren Wing are clearly progressive while the other Wing that is fighting so desperately are certainly different. They are clearly not progressive. A $12 min wage, please. I call the Clinton Wing Conservative because they have the same ideology as the Conservatives did a few decades ago. They support business over the People. Goldman-Sachs and the Koch Bros endorse Clinton not Sanders. The neocons like Richard Perile endorse Clinton. These are not progressives.

The Progressive Wing voted against helping George Bush kill a million Iraqi's while our Conservative Wing all jumped ship and joined the Republicons.

One isn't a Progressive if one supports:

The corruption of Big Money in government via Citizens United.
Job killing "Free Trade" agreements
Fracking for oil company profits over people's water quality.
Unregulated domestic spying and no oversight for the NSA/CIA Security State.
Drone killing of terrorist "suspects" in foreign lands (100 innocents killed for each suspect)
Prisons for Profits
American Exceptionalism as an excuse for neocon imperialism.
The use of cluster bombs near civilian areas.

[Zambero]

99. Good reply

And good points. Although I would venture to say there is indeed a "moderate" or "centrist" wing of the Democratic Party. The term conservative as put forth in contemporary right-wing circles has been twisted and redefined to the point where such a credential is reserved for the most extreme unwavering neo-Fascist authoritarian theorcratic element. Even Barry Goldwater aka "Mr. Conservative" had no use for those people, who routinely portray BOTH Bernie and Hillary as being birds-of-feather radical leftists.

[rhett o rick]

107. I certainly agree that some have tried to re-define some of these labels.

But who are your "moderates" and "centrists"?? Where do they stand on issues. How can we call those people that supported the US invasion of Iraq moderate? Or those that now stand with Clinton and Goldman-Sachs on supply side economics? Those that supported the Clintons attacks on the minority communities to fill the Prisons For Profits are not moderate. Those that side with the Banksters and neocons are not moderate.

If one were to write down where a true centrist should stand on issues they'd find that the Progressives would agree. The Conservatives try to paint Progressives as wild-assed Leftist but never have explained what issues the Progressives support that are so terrible. Is asking for single payer, a $15 min wage, raising the SS cap, etc. so far left?

I stand with the Clinton Wing of the Party as Conservatives. Kissinger loves Hillary because he knows she is strongly conservative.

[Zambero]

125. Room for nuance

John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and no doubt many others in the party would have not cast "yes" votes in support of the Iraq War, had they known at the time that it was sold to Congress with cooked intelligence, to put it kindly. Still, my hat's off to those who opposed it despite the smoke and mirrors. Hillary in certainly not "anti-corporation", since higher wages for workers can only result from those companies who can turn a profit. But neither does she want to toss Dodd-Frank protections, and she has always supported a progressive tax system. What riled Republicans most is when her husband signed legislation in his first term to raise the top tax bracket on highest incomes. Anyone who thinks their hatred of Bill Clinton was based on the Lewinsky thing is missing the big picture. Anyway, the absolutes proclaimed by either end of the political spectrum tend to conveniently dismiss a lot of details. It would be a simple world indeed if everyone could be neatly divided into two well-defined camps of "progressive" and "conservative". However, it is in fact a continuum with any number of arbitrary get-off points for establishing labels along the way. Myself, I have been called everything from a communist to a conservative and everything in-between, and I have my own opinion of others as well. Who is right and who is wrong?

[shadowwinds]

127. One isn't a Progressive if one supports:

Hey, Rhett!

I really like this list of what you name to identify a Progressive!

Can I make me a copy?
[if so, thanks!]

Also, would you consider making this a separate post and ask others to add something that identifies them as a Progressive???

I think that would be a positive thing to do to refresh our memories about all the ideas that bind us together!

Thanks!

Mary

[rhett o rick]

132. Good idea Mary. I will do it probably in the Populist Reform of the Democratic Party Group.

[libdem4life]

43. and now she owes Republican donors

and still qualifies for 6 figure speeches. What a shining example of a Democrat. I know, situation ethics and all.

And what a role model for young girls. And can the sexist crap. She's been touted to high heaven about her amazing example...the first woman president. The Very, Very Rich woman.

Indeed, a FUBAR has been publicly outed. Will any real Democrats out there or Super Delegates care?

Doubt it because...It's Rigged...to coin a phrase.

[rhett o rick]

96. This is an excellent example of why we need to stop considering it Democrats vs.

Republicons. It's the wealthy vs. the People. The wealthy support not only Republicons but also Democrats that they agree with and Wall Street and the billionaires (R & D).

[libdem4life]

98. I so agree...it's become a class war.

Has been for a long time, but those smoke-filled back rooms now have audio and video.

We knew it but couldn't prove it. I believe the HRC situation may be the Tipping Point. She really is, as I've heard, the candidate for the system we have, while Bernie is the candidate for the system we need .

[rhett o rick]

108. And sadly we have too many Democrats that want to desperately hold on to the system we

have. They can ignore those suffering and support bigger profits for the Corporations.

[libdem4life]

110. It's been said that the status quo is usually

about 1/3 on most any real issue. Don't rock the boat...all is well.

Another third want to move ahead., share the wealth. generally called liberals, ie open to change in political matters.

The last 1/3 aren't aware or don't care until it affects them personally.

[leftinportland]

14. She has alway been on the wrong side...

I would dispise her less if she was just another corrupt Republican. She pretends to be a progressive liberal coddling various factions while having her hand out and accepting $$$ from the oligarchy.

[pinebox]

18. Yup and Hillary supporters are defending this

Which I find just as disgusting.

[Demsrule86]

17. Good

Campaigns were expensive...we need to beat the crap out of Trump.

[pinebox]

20. Good? You think this is good?

The guy who calls out people on DU for posting so called "RW links" is ok with Republican billionaires donating to his candidate?

Holy crap the shit is getting deep around here.

[Hydra]

52. Double standard- it's all good in the name of D

What does that even stand for now? Deregulation?

[pinebox]

53. I can think of a few choice words myself

[KPN]

40. Good.

This erases any ambivalence I may have had about not voting for Hillary.

[libdem4life]

49. True. But it might help to nominate one who people

can trust. ..now even as she downshifts into Republican gear.

This is Precisely why she is Unfavorable and Untrustworthy.

[rhett o rick]

86. Yep, lie, cheat, steal, sell your soul to defeat Trump. Just like Sanders. Those

are principles of the Conservatives not progressives. "I will just neglect my principles to win this one, then I will be principled."
Rationalization is the key to their happiness.

Integrity is adherence to moral ethics, being honest to yourself, to stand for the right things, to value the principle of truthfulness and justice, and to be transparent. - Dr. Anil Kr Sinha

[99Forever]

19. Legalized bribery. Nothing more, nothing less.

Golly gee...

... and lookie who's taking those bribes.

[pinebox]

21. Ya I know

It is just mind boggling. What's up is down, what's down is up

[OutNow]

23. I support Peter DeFazio - my great member of Congress

As mentioned in the article, Robert Mercer is the rich guy who has funded Art Robinson's multiple campaigns against Peter DeFazio. Art Robinson is a right wing nut job who has made a career out of losing to DeFazio every two years. In between election he dreams up conspiracies claiming that Oregon State University is picking on his kids enrolled in the OSU graduate program because of liberals...

http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/271753/

So now Mercer is supporting Clinton. I'm not shocked. I expect the 1% to support Clinton since she obviously supports them.

I do plan to contribute some money to candidates I support this year. I will contribute to Peter DeFazio's campaign. I will not contribute to any candidate supported by Robert Mercer. Can I make it any plainer?

[KPN]

36. Haha. Good to hear.

I've been pasting Bernie stickers across Art Robinson posters this spring!

[hobbit709]

25. By the company you keep.

[YouDig]

26. Where's the link where it supposedly says he contributed to Hillary?

[YouDig]

60. There isn't one, because it didn't happen. This is a pure fabrication from the OP.

It's an interesting study in how some people will just believe anything as long as you post a bunch of links and images.

[PowerToThePeople]

66. Works both ways

Chair throwing in Nevada as a recent example.

Or gay bashing music at a Bernie rally.

There is a new blatant lie from team Hillary nearly every other day that gets repeated over and over with multiple OPs on this site.

[YouDig]

69. So you're defending this blatant lie. Hmm.

[vintx]

28. Of course her supporters aren't admitting this is a problem.

They can't, the carefully constructed blinders might fall apart.

I remember when people on DU were put off by this massive corruption in DC, and rallied behind CFR.

Now we see so much Charlie Sheen style WINNING bullshit... we may as well be on that other site.

[YouDig]

32. The OP hasn't presented any evidence that Mercer actually started donating to Hillary.

[vintx]

55. Interesting. I wonder why they won't just put up the quote. Something smells.

This is the closest I could find... but there's no direct tie mentioned.

Didn't dig through all the links, though.

http://observer.com/2016/05/wealthy-cruz-donor-pours-millions-into-clinton-campaign/

[YouDig]

56. The clarification in the article explains it all.

The money that went to Hillary came from James Simons, founder of Renaissance and big Democratic contributor. I guess the OP figured that because Mercer also worked for Renaissance, that they were the same person.

[vintx]

59. Didn't Mercer just donate to Renaissance, and his $13M went to Cruz?

Anyway, the fact that she and Jeb share so many of the same donors reeks to high heaven.

Not that anyone really needs that as evidence... there's no shortage

[YouDig]

64. Renaissance is a hedge fund. It was founded by James Simons, a Democratic

donating billionaire. Mercer is co-CEO, he is a GOP donating billionaire. Both of their donations get associated with the firm Renaissance because it is their mutual employer. But they are different people, one is a liberal, one is a conservative.

[Rex]

116. The thread is garbage, there is not ONE sentence with Mercer and HRC in it!

Mercer has never given a dime to HRC...the OP wasted a lot of time and now looks foolish.

[libdem4life]

58. You think she is going to photo copy a check

and give it to the press when she feels non-obligated to reveal transcripts of 6 figure speeches?

Any way for some of us we heard it some while back. Note it wasn't in LBN.

[YouDig]

61. What evidence is there that Mercer donated to Hillary? None. The OP could just

as easily claim that Putin donated $50 million to her campaign. It's a complete lie, and for some reasons Berners all believe it.

[libdem4life]

76. Enjoy the sand.

[KPN]

34. THIS^^

is why I won't vote for Hillary.

If we don't change this dynamic folks, we're screwed. And time is running out.

[YouDig]

41. There's no evidence that Mercer has donated to Hillary. The OP just made that up.

[Triana]

51. So, NYT just "made that up"?

The article is from NYT.

[YouDig]

54. The NYT article said he donated to Cruz, not Hillary.

And, yes, Mercer is a big Cruz donor, but he hasn't donated to Hillary, at least not according to any of the links in the OP.

[Doctor_J]

75. Click on the opensecrets link in the op

Renaissance technologies, 2 million dollars.

Duh

[LiberalFighter]

84. Renaissance Technologies only identifies the donor's employer.

Just like when I was a GM employee and make a donation it does not mean that GM made it.

[Triana]

89. The donor's employer is the DONOR'S COMPANY ie: he RUNS it in this case

And in this case, it's the same thing ie: the donor IS his company:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Technologies

Renaissance Technologies LLC is an East Setauket, New York-based[4] American investment management firm founded in 1982 by James Simons, an award-winning mathematician and former Cold War code breaker, which specializes in systematic trading using only quantitative models derived from mathematical and statistical analyses. Renaissance is one of the first highly successful hedge funds using quantitative trading — known as "quant hedge funds" — that rely heavily on powerful computers and sophisticated mathematics to guide investment strategies. In 1988 Renaissance's established its most famous and profitable portfolio, the Medallion fund which used an improved and expanded form of Leonard Baum's mathematical models improved by pioneering algebraist James Ax to explore correlations from which they could profit. Simons and Ax started a hedge fund and christened it Medallion in honor of the math awards that they had won.[5][6] Renaissance's flagship Medallion fund, which is run mostly for fund employees,[7] "is famed for one of the best records in investing history, returning more than 35 percent annualized over a 20-year span."[4] From 1994 through mid-2014 it averaged a 71.8% annual return.[8] Renaissance offers two portfolios to outside investors - Renaissance Institutional Equities Fund (RIEF) and Renaissance Institutional Diversified Alpha (RIDA).[9] Simons ran Renaissance until his retirement in late 2009.[10] The company is now jointly run by Peter Brown and Robert Mercer, two leading computer scientists specializing in computational linguistics who joined Renaissance in 1993 from IBM Research.

That's a tad bit different than some administrative assistant donating to his/her favorite politician, isn't it? I think so.

Ms. Clinton's ties to Wall St unfortunately cover both parties - including the Tea Party and her son-in-law IS a hedge fund manager. It's her world. That she's taking SO much money from it and from CONservatives who dumped money also to Ted Cruz of all people, is IMO disgusting and shameful. As well it should be.

Because for all her rhetoric that she's going to 'rein them in', she won't. These are her FRIENDS and her FAMILY and she will do nothing to hurt them. She'll hurt or destroy the rest of us first, as anyone in her position would. But that's just the thing, isn't it? As a Presidential candidate -- and particularly a DEMOCRATIC candidate, she shouldn't BE IN THAT POSITION.

[LiberalFighter]

92. The money comes from his personal account not from Renaissance Technologies.

Show me anyone from Renaissance Technologies that has donated over $10,000 to Clinton in this election cycle.

[Skink]

42. Probably in tight with The Koch's

[pinebox]

47. The Koch's praised Hillary

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/24/charles-koch-says-he-could-possibly-support-hillary-clinton/

[Scootaloo]

67. I don't see anything in your sources supporting your claim

The NYTimes article only says that mercer outspent Clinton's donors, with almost all of that money going to Ted Cruz. The opensecrets link doesn't list the Mercer Foundation among Ms. Clinton's donors.

[LiberalFighter]

87. You are correct Scootaloo.

I was trying to wrap my head around that and couldn't figure out how it stated Mercer donated to Clinton.

[pinebox]

145. A sec I'll PM you

and here as well. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/04/hillary-clinton-s-mega-donors-are-also-funding-jeb-bush.html

[Doctor_J]

70. Good God, what a sleaze

And some of her really dim supporters believe she will fight to overturn CU. And that she'll rein in the billionaires and wall street.

[B Calm]

117. +1 Couldn't agree more! You'd be surprised how many of them believe that!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

74. The article doesn't say she got money from Mercer.

They were comparing Mercer's contribution to Cruz to the contributions to Clinton. You might want to revise your OP.

[Doctor_J]

78. READ THE OPENSECRETS LINK

It must be exhausting to keep the facts away.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

82. I'm not exhausted.

And I am a Sanders supporter. I'm just trying to determine whether this guy actually contributed to Clinton's PAC, since the link only mentions the Renaissance Fund. I am aware that she is getting money from Republicans but I am also interested in being absolutely accurate.

[JimDandy]

135. Can't find where he actually contributed to Hillary, either.

[LiberalFighter]

93. OpenSecrets does not provide the names of the contributors.

Use FEC.gov to find out who. FEC.gov will also provide the candidates or PAC's they make a contribution to.

[jalan48]

77. This is what Bernie is talking about and why so many Americans are disgusted with the system.

It's also why Trump will beat Clinton in the general. He can claim he's not bought by special interests and the rubes in the country will go for it. With her private speeches to Wall Street and the big banks Hillary looks like just another politician on the take. Sad.

[PowerToThePeople]

81. Screenshot of linked opensecrets page

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

[Doctor_J]

83. Thanks pttp. Learning is hard for some

Now I predict they will change from "there's no proof" to "that doesn't mean she'll work for the rich"

[PowerToThePeople]

85. I did not see it at first either.

Only went digging for it after reading your responses here.

Clarity is important with big claims imo.

Thank you for your effort on this thread.

[LiberalFighter]

95. Screenshot of FEC donations

Which contribution went to Clinton? None from Mercer as claimed by the OP.

[oberliner]

122. Rensaissance Technologies donated equal amounts to the Romney and Obama campaigns in 2012

They have 2 co-CEO's, one of whom, Peter Brown, is a liberal who has donated to Democratic party causes for many years.

[LiberalFighter]

90. The information you are implying is FALSE.

This is from the FEC which is the source that OpenSecrets uses to compile their data.

These are Mercer's contributions for 2015 and 2016.
KEEP THE PROMISE I 3/17/2016 2,000,000.00
KEEP THE PROMISE I 2/26/2016 500,000.00
BLACK AMERICANS FOR A BETTER FUTURE 2/3/2016 25,000.00
NEW YORK WINS PAC 1/29/2016 500,000.00
JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 12/18/2015 500,000.00
BLACK AMERICANS FOR A BETTER FUTURE 11/15/2015 200,000.00
FIGHTING FOR FLORIDA FUND 9/29/2015 200,000.00
JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 9/28/2015 500,000.00
BLACK AMERICANS FOR A BETTER FUTURE 9/18/2015 200,000.00
SENATE CONSERVATIVES ACTION 7/13/2015 30,000.00
JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 6/30/2015 500,000.00
BELIEVE AGAIN 6/29/2015 250,000.00
KEEP THE PROMISE I 4/10/2015 11,000,000.00
JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 2/24/2015 500,000.00

These are the 2015-2016 contributions made by anyone identifying Renaissance Technologies as their place of employment.
MERCER, ROBERT KEEP THE PROMISE I 3/17/2016 2,000,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT KEEP THE PROMISE I 2/26/2016 500,000.00
LAUFER, HENRY CORRECT THE RECORD 2/18/2016 500,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT L BLACK AMERICANS FOR A BETTER FUTURE 2/3/2016 25,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT LEROY MR. JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 12/18/2015 500,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT L BLACK AMERICANS FOR A BETTER FUTURE 11/15/2015 200,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT LEROY MR. JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 9/28/2015 500,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT L BLACK AMERICANS FOR A BETTER FUTURE 9/18/2015 200,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT L. SENATE CONSERVATIVES ACTION 7/13/2015 30,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT LEROY MR. JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 6/30/2015 500,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT BELIEVE AGAIN 6/29/2015 250,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT KEEP THE PROMISE I 4/10/2015 11,000,000.00
MERCER, ROBERT LEROY MR. JOHN BOLTON SUPER PAC 2/24/2015 500,000.00

[pinebox]

141. Rennaisance Technologies donated to both Hillary and Cruz

And keep in mind, this article from the Daily Beast which is very PRO-Clinton

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/04/hillary-clinton-s-mega-donors-are-also-funding-jeb-bush.html

[TwilightZone]

147. Corporations can't donate directly to candidates.

Your title is demonstrably false.

[pinebox]

150. You know precisely what I mean

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

Read it please.

[LiberalFighter]

149. Renaissance Technologies as an entity did not donate to Cruz or to Clinton.

No money from anyone employed by Renaissance Technologies has been donated to Clinton.

These are the donations by everyone that works for Renaissance Technologies during the 2015-2016 election cycle. Robert Mercer has not donated to any Democratic candidate.

Keep the Promise is a PAC that supported Cruz. Donations to that PAC by Mercer totals $13.5 million.

[pinebox]

151. I'll PM you in a sec give me a moment

[jwirr]

94. Not only is she beholden to Wall Street and the bankers but

now she is selling out to the Rs. She is throwing us under the bus even before the election.

[Scuba]

100. When I pointed out that the Clinton Foundation took money from brutal dictatorships, they said ...

... it didn't matter because the Clinton Foundation used the money for good deeds.



When I pointed out that the Clinton Foundation spent only a tiny portion of the money on good deeds, they said I loved Donald Trump.



When you point out that Hillary takes money from the same power-brokers as Ted Cruz, they say they it takes a lot of money to run for President.


When you point out that Bernie is running, very effectively, and doesn't take that dirty money, they say you love Donald Trump.

[annavictorious]

114. You don't understand how foundations work

they don't spend money on good deeds.
Foundations disperse funds to organizations which then spend those funds on good deeds.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, but when did that ever stop a berniebro from expressing a superficial and mistaken opinion that he read on usuncut?


Sanders is not running effectively. He's losing,
And he's losing in spite of all the foreign cash that has been funneled into his campaign. Sanders's money is so dirty that a list of donors 600 pages long is being investigated by the FEC.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2016/05/bernies-dirty-money.html

[Scuba]

124. You don't understand how foundations work.

https://harpers.org/blog/2015/11/shaky-foundations/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/exposed-%E2%80%93-clinton-foundation-running-20-million-private-equity-firm-colombia

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-29/clinton-foundation-failed-to-disclose-1-100-foreign-donations

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/clintons-659698-foundation-clinton.html

[nolabels]

164. They love Trump at my workplace

He is the butt-end of many a joke

Normally national politics are rarely mentioned around there. As for this year, the proverbial cord has been struck.

Btw Scuba, thanks for keeping us informed

[jamese777]

101. Top Corporate Donors To Obama

Top Corporate Donors Obama For America 2008
Goldman Sachs
Microsoft
JP Morgan Chase
Google
Citigroup
Time Warner
National Amusements Inc. (CBS, Viacom)
IBM
General Electric
Morgan Stanley

Top Corporate Donors Obama For America 2012
Microsoft
Google
Goldman Sachs
JP Morgan Chase & Company
Time Warner
Citigroup
IBM
National Amusements (CBS/Viacom)

Total Individual and Organization or Corporate Fundraising
2008 Fundraising
Obama: $744,985,625
McCain: $368,093,763

2012 Fundraising
Obama: $715,677,692
Romney: $446,135,997

Data from opensecrets.org

[oberliner]

102. This OP is a lie - it should be deleted

Hillary is not "receiving millions from former Ted Cruz billionaire donor" and nothing in any of the articles and links in the OP says that she is.

[AZ Progressive]

103. Robert Mercer's firm is one of Hillary's top donors

And the records show it.

[oberliner]

120. Renaissance Technologies has 2 co-CEO's - one is Peter Brown, a liberal

Who has donated to Democratic party causes for many years.

In 2012, Renaissance Technologies donated equal amounts to the Romney and Obama campaigns.

[pinebox]

140. Check this out

Renaissance Technologies was called out by Senator John McCain in 2014 for evading nearly $6 billion in taxes by disguising day-to-day investments as long term investments, and in 2015, Bloomberg ran an article describing how the firm lobbied the U.S. Labor Department for special tax evading privileges.

Just saying.

[Lil Missy]

104. Good! So the money isn't going to Trump!!

BSers continue to ignore what a danger, to the country and the world, a Trump win would be.

[Jack Bone]

105. Clinton / Cruz 2016

#STRONGERTOGETHER

[jamese777]

106. Billionaies Supporting The Left In 2012

James Simons: $4.1 million
The hedge fund ‘quant king’ is the biggest billionaire donor to the left, giving $2 million to Obama-backing super PAC Priorities USA Action as well as supporting left-leaning Majority PAC and House Majority PAC.

Irwin Jacobs : $2.1 million
The retired head of chip manufacturer Qualcomm also cut a $2 million check to Priorities USA Action, the super PAC backing Obama’s reelection.

Jon Stryker: $2 million
Medical device heir, like Jacobs and Simons, pitched in $2 million to Priorities USA Action. He’s also a longtime donor to LGBT causes.

- Anne Cox Chambers: $1.6 million
The 92-year-old Cox Enterprises TV billionaire backed Obama supporters Priorities USA Action.

- George Soros: $1.275 million
The legendary investor hasn’t supported Obama directly, but he’s contributed to left-leaning groups Majority PAC, House Majority PAC, and American Bridge 21st Century.

- Haim Saban: $1 million
The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers mogul has divided his donation between C Priorities USA Action and left-leaning Majority PAC and House Majority PAC.

The following are Obama For America’s top billionaire ‘bundlers’, who’ve fundraised from their wealthy networks rather than given directly to any super PAC or other outside group. Obama’s campaign team provides a range rather than actual numbers.

- David Shaw, New York hedge funder: $500k+

- James Crown, of the Henry Crown dynasty of investors: $500k+

- Marc Lasry, New York hedge funder: $500k+

- Marc Benioff, founder of Salesforce.com: $500k+

- Penny Pritzker, business executive and Hyatt hotel heiress: $200k-$500k
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2012/10/08/the-elections-40-biggest-billionaire-donors-and-why-the-kochs-are-missing/3/#3cc9c3595bb5

[B Calm]

113. Best government money can buy and Hillary supporters cheer, wow! Did we lose the underground

to the BELTWAY?

[Rex]

115. Wow all that work in the OP and not a single sentence about Mercer giving money to HRC.

P A T H E T I C. Is that all you got?

[pinebox]

142. Sure you go with that

Meanwhile Renaissance Technologies donated to both Hillary & Cruz.

Keep in mind this article from the Daily Beast which is VERY pro-Hillary http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/04/hillary-clinton-s-mega-donors-are-also-funding-jeb-bush.html

[jamese777]

119. Renaissance Technologies

The firm referenced in the OP is a fairly unique organization, it has co-CEOs. Robert Mercer is indeed one of them. He is politically conservative and a member of the NRA.
But the co-CEO, Peter Brown, is politically liberal and has donated to Planned Parenthood.
http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-mercer-peter-brown-2010-3

The donations from Renaissance Technologies to Hillary Clinton did not come from Robert Mercer as an indvidual, they came from employees of the firm and probably from those who think like Peter Brown, not Robert Mercer.

Peter Brown
NET WORTH: Unknown

SOURCE OF WEALTH: Renaissance Technologies, Co-CEO

FUNDING AREAS: Higher Education, STEM Education, Health

OVERVIEW: Peter F. Brown and his wife Margaret Ann Hamburg channel much of their philanthropy through their Quetzal Trust, which held more than $175 million in assets and gave away more than $7 million in a recent year. The full scope of the couple's giving is unclear, as millions have been pumped into Fidelity Charitable Giving Fund of late, but Brown, a graduate of Harvard and Carnegie Mellon, has been a funder of higher education, STEM education, and health. It's worth noting that Margaret is a prominent physician who recently resigned as FDA commissioner.

BACKGROUND: Peter F. Brown got his B.A. in mathematics from Harvard and his Ph.D. in computer science from Carnegie Mellon. Brown was a member of the research staff at IBM’s Thomas J. Watson Research Center from 1984 to 1993. In 1993, he joined James Simons' Renaissance Technologies along with IBM coworker Robert Mercer. Now Brown and Mercer serve as co-CEOs of Renaissance. Brown's current net worth is unknown but Forbes magazine estimated that he and Mercer earned about $125 million each in 2011 alone.

ISSUES:

HIGHER EDUCATION: Brown attended Harvard and Margaret attended Radcliffe College, which is now part of Harvard. The Harvard College Fund received $500,000 from the couple in 2011, and more modest sums went to Harvard Medical School. The couple has also supported Yale, Carnegie Mellon, the National Academy of Engineering Fund, and SUNY Stony Brook. SUNY Stony Brook is in close proximity to Renaissance, and James Simons once taught there.

STEM EDUCATION: Given Brown's background, it's no surprise that he's been a steady funder of James Simon's Math for America, a nonprofit whose mission is to improve mathematics education in United States public schools by recruiting, training, and retaining highly qualified secondary school mathematics teachers. Support has also gone to the World Science Festival. Outside of STEM education, Brown and Hamburg have supported Sidwell Friends School, and Choate Rosemary Hall. Like Mercer, Brown has also supported the American Museum of Natural History.

HEALTH: Given Margaret's prominent role in health, the apparent giving in this area hasn't been overwhelming. Recent modest support has gone to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America and Harvard Medical School.

LOOKING FORWARD: The Quetzal Trust did around $7.1 million in total grantmaking in 2013 and $7 million went to Fidelity Charitable. In 2012, meanwhile, $1 million went to Fidelity Charitable out of a total $3.6 million. As a result, assessing the couple's recent interests is rather difficult. In years prior to 2010, their philanthropy was more transparent, with a dozen or so outfits receiving funds. The couple has shown some interest in more global causes such as supporting Doctors Without Borders and Save the Children.
http://www.insidephilanthropy.com/wall-street-donors/peter-brown.html

[oberliner]

121. Thanks for injecting some truth and sanity

Renaissance Technologies contributed virtually equally to the Romney and Obama campaigns in 2012.

This cycle, the split between Democrats and Republicans is also around 50-50.

[jamese777]

129. You're Welcome!

It just made sense to me that the liberal of their co-CEOs would be the person donating to Hillary, not the conservative, Cruz supporter.

[Rex]

165. Stop it! This thread is a fact free zone! nt

nt

[pinebox]

143. I suggest you read this.

This article from the Daily Beast which is VERY pro-Hillary http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/04/hillary-clinton-s-mega-donors-are-also-funding-jeb-bush.html

[TwilightZone]

148. Try posting something relevant once in a while.

You're not fooling anyone.

[pinebox]

153. It's quite relevant but thank you

I'm sorry you can't see the forest through the trees and instead need to post an ad hominem attack because you have no defense. You mad bro? Not my problem.

[madokie]

130. What really matters in all this is

she damn sure isn't on us regular folk's side. That you can bet on and her past actions proves where her allegiance is.

[pinebox]

144. No she isn't at all.

Hillary works for the 1%.

[Sancho]

146. The only RW corporate money I infer is going to operatives to post anti-Hillary trash...

It's a game that the RW played a decade ago, and this time they've stepped up the effort. Looks like they have also found ways to "contribute" to the campaigns of anyone who is anti-Hillary too. Again, it's an old GOP bag of tricks with a few new wrinkles. I figure when someone has 2000+ bash & trash posts in 90 days with amazing serial OPs, they don't look or talk like my progressive buddies, and I've been in the game for quite a while. It's simply not a liberal value to me.

Liberals, including some who are attracted to Bernie, Biden, or Hillary don't naturally act like attack dogs. They may protest to express their concerns. They may be interested in ideas, or be part of some organization like a union, or have concerns over a demographic (women, minorities, immigrants). Most are uplifting and are not super critics. The super critics remind me of Archie Bunker - always looking for some picky edges to cast aspersions and play to biases.

Hillary has won this primary, and I hope that the undermining tricks of the RW are no more successful this time than against Obama. Looks like that's the case. In this primary, much more money appears to have been spent by under-the-table dirty trolling than was contributed to some pro-Hillary PAC! Of course, there are no public disclosures of under-handed tactics, so we'll never know exactly.

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/78-78/5872-right-wing-sock-puppets-pretending-to-be-liberals-assault-progressive-websites

Right-Wing Sock Puppets Pretending to Be Liberals Assault Progressive Websites

But beneath the second-tier video fictions of James O’Keefe and Andrew Breitbart, and the hollow-headed bleating of the various ozone-inhabiting creatures who will never be president like Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin, and even in the shadow of the disingenuous theocratic mushpile that is David Barton’s twisted view of our history, exists a well-funded Republican netherworld of PR propagandists and marketing hucksters busy dreaming up unethical new ways to undercut Obama and the Democrats.

Some on the progressive side are already well aware that the GOP is, and has been at least since 2005, mounting a large and well-funded campaign to plant phony 'progressives sick of the Dems' comments on various liberal sites to split the vote. Their masters know the psychology well: a percentage of the population, no matter what their politics, is 'suggestible,' meaning if they read a string of comments excoriating ALL Democrats as frauds and liars, that will become their opinion, if nothing to the contrary is offered. These 'suggestibles' are not necessarily stupid, but they do readily conform to whatever opinion is dominant. That's why the GOP, through their paid operatives, flood progressive sites with so-called 'former Democrats' and 'angry progressives' who do nothing but harp on how horrible the Democrats and Obama are.

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/vern-buchanan

Rep. Buchanan’s claim he knew nothing about thousands of dollars in illegal contributions propping up his campaign is laughable — except to federal investigators.

[pinebox]

154. Reader supported news? lol?

Talk about a super biased source.
What happens when I use a staunchly pro-Hillary source to out Hillary and how she has the same donors as Republicans?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/04/hillary-clinton-s-mega-donors-are-also-funding-jeb-bush.html

Please, I'm not Republican, I'm a liberal and I'm more than likely to left of you too seeing as how you support Hillary who is a conservative Dem by all accounts.

I'm sorry you can't understand that but your candidate has more problems than anybody else and a record that shows she has gotten in a lot of this mess all by herself.

[Sancho]

161. You are not more "left" of me...if you understand the concept...

just out of curiosity...are you communist, socialist, libertarian left??? If being the farthest "left" is the "best" liberal - then you would not really support capitalism?

According to the simplest left–right axis, communism and socialism are usually regarded internationally as being on the left, opposite fascism and conservatism on the right. Liberalism can mean different things in different contexts, sometimes on the left (social liberalism), sometimes on the right (economic liberalism). Politics that rejects the conventional left–right spectrum is known as syncretic politics.[2][3] Those with an intermediate outlook are classified as centrists or moderates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

The classification of Bernie and Hillary and Obama is not as important to me as their actual experience, training, and ability to promote a Democratic agenda. I'm well aware, that what we "value" as Democrats is not stagnant. Putting a politician on a scale is a pretty lame exercise.

At this point, we need to get more Democrats elected - as President and all the way down to the dog catcher. Hillary will be the candidate from this Primary.

[libodem]

152. Go Figure?

Pick your enemies carefully, because you will become them, in trying to combat them.

[pinebox]

155. It's sad

It's all one big special club of stupid

[libodem]

156. Yep

[Tal Vez]

157. Are you sure that "Hillary is courting big Republican money"?

I hope that you're right.

I hope that she will be courting Republican votes as well! That's how a majority is constructed.

[sellitman]

158. She is obviously on the side of Greenbacks

If she would sell out to Wall Street why would a GOP backer be off limits. This is precisely why Bernie has been the only choice if a Progressive is what you want in the White House.

[Demsrule86]

159. Your information is not correct...it was a Dem donor...but hey if right winger

see how dangerous Trump is and want to help...take the money!

[pinebox]

160. My info is correct thanks though

And that Dem donor you're talking about?



While we're at it, maybe we can talk about how Hillary has the same donors as Jeb! http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512080300#post143

Or maybe we can talk about this too?

Wake up.

[colsohlibgal]

162. Certainly Food For Thought

Not a surprise to many of us, nor is the spate of clever non substantive retorts....often from paid operatives.

If she wins watch who she appoints as her fiscal team, watch how she deals with the perpetual war black hole defense/security budget.

Sooner or later the masses will rise up. Or at least they have every 70 or so years historically in a non Citizens United country without mass media at their disposal.

[Sparkly]

163. That's beyond a stretch --- it's a HUGE leap of logic.

So let me understand the case you're making...

1. There's a bad guy, Robert Mercer, who donates to rightwing groups (Wiki link).
2. PACs donate a lot to campaigns (the opensecrets links).
3. Clinton is courting campaign funds from PACs to try to keep up with the huge donations to Republicans, such as the fact that Mercer donated more to Cruz than all of the millionaire donors who gave to Clinton. (NYTimes)
4. John Podesta and Jeff Forbes co-hosted a Clinton fundraiser, and Forbes was once registered as a lobbyist for the NRA (the intercept link).
5. ERGO, Hillary Clinton is receiving millions from Robert Mercer.- ?!?