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woolldog

(8,791 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:42 PM May 2016

How much $$$$ have Bernie and Jane cleared from this primary?

Does anyone know how much they're taking down in salary and how much is being funneled to related vendors etc?

This is probably more money than he's made in his life just from this primary. No wonder he wants to continue until the inevitable bitter end. There's too much money on the table to quit now.

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How much $$$$ have Bernie and Jane cleared from this primary? (Original Post) woolldog May 2016 OP
They did get that free trip to Rome. I wonder how many $27 donations that was? nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #1
"it's good to be the King" woolldog May 2016 #4
Going the corruption angle? portlander23 May 2016 #2
+10,000 What a ridiculous OP. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #6
It's hippy-kicking. Bernie so poor. Bernie so bad. Doing this for the money. Alex4Martinez May 2016 #116
it could be that some people's supporters dont understand roguevalley May 2016 #122
Why won't he release his tax returns? woolldog May 2016 #7
Please oh please keep going with the corruption angle portlander23 May 2016 #9
where's his tax returns? woolldog May 2016 #11
Wheres six billion dollars of state department funding? SwampG8r May 2016 #19
Probably in the drawer next to Obama's long form birth certificate #taxtruther portlander23 May 2016 #20
For the last 40 years candidates for President have released their tax returns. woolldog May 2016 #21
Sure portlander23 May 2016 #56
So what is it exactly you're trying to say about President Obama? politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #95
Actually that is Where Are His Tax Returns Silver_Witch May 2016 #73
bernese enid602 May 2016 #93
Happy Now Enid602? Silver_Witch May 2016 #114
6/7 enid602 May 2016 #118
lol, thanks for catching that. woolldog May 2016 #120
OH FUCK ME!!!! pangaia May 2016 #106
Probably six figures KingFlorez May 2016 #3
Like the Clinton's pay themselves from their foundation? Autumn May 2016 #8
Not just themselves. They paid Sid B., loyal family retainer, QC May 2016 #13
Oh yes Sid of course, and the exposed Libya emails. Autumn May 2016 #18
I'm still not sure how hiring an amateur spy QC May 2016 #35
"regime change" "business opportunities" More or less the same amirite? Autumn May 2016 #53
Yep. It's all about the green. n/t QC May 2016 #69
Projecting a bit there? Hillary is richer than God and got her money The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #16
Sanders has never had a private sector job in his life KingFlorez May 2016 #30
The fact that he's never had a private sector job speaks in his favor, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #41
The fact he has never had a job outside of serving in office is pretty sad KingFlorez May 2016 #58
Working in the private sector isn't evil. My point is only that as an elected official The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #67
His tax return indicates he is in the top 6% of wage earners. He paid less than Thinkingabout May 2016 #87
While Sanders is relatively comfortable The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #92
So far Sanders has only produced one summary, did not see a tax return indicating 13%. Thinkingabout May 2016 #99
Lovely RIGHT WING talking point nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #79
Yup. Public employment is bad; only private business is worthy. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #94
Hey Reagan would be very electable in this new Democratic Party nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #96
Ronnie would be too liberal for some Democrats these days. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #103
True you got a point nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #104
Lately, Hillary talking points *are* right wing talking points. QC May 2016 #98
Teachers, carpenters, film-making, youth counselor? They don't get paychecks? ebayfool May 2016 #100
Hillary and Bill Clinton both had best selling books which sold millions of copies. I know because politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #105
"The Clintons have thrived... within a corrupt system The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #109
Jane Sanders isn't getting paid for his pres campaign. Eric J in MN May 2016 #24
His Senate salary continues, I suppose. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #5
Candidates are now permitted to pay themselves a salary from campaign funds democrattotheend Jun 2016 #135
At least he's working for every nickle of it. kayakjohnny May 2016 #10
Do you still believe that Hillary has "set the woman's movement back"? QC May 2016 #12
I believe that she should not focus on her gender or women's issues. As I wrote just yesterday, woolldog May 2016 #17
You used to be one of her most strident critics around here. QC May 2016 #40
Trump happened. woolldog May 2016 #52
I agree that Trump is a potential disaster. QC May 2016 #68
Right because women don't matter to Bernie and his peeps Demsrule86 May 2016 #124
I guess if you have heard nothing about... ljm2002 May 2016 #129
I have listened Demsrule86 May 2016 #131
Oh okay, so you're just dishonest... ljm2002 May 2016 #132
Im sure what we send him is enough lmbradford May 2016 #14
OK, then. So who shall we look to as the pinnacle of virtue? immoderate May 2016 #15
A lot less than one Hillary speech fee. Why do you ask? BillZBubb May 2016 #22
I don't have a problem with Clinton woolldog May 2016 #26
Of course you don't! You're such a moral guy. BillZBubb May 2016 #29
That's a good point. Bernie is lying to people making them believe there is a democratic path to MariaThinks May 2016 #34
"Bernie is lying to people"... ljm2002 May 2016 #130
Her supporters desperately try to invent scandals AgingAmerican May 2016 #23
From Money Nation CentralMass May 2016 #25
I don't have a problem with Clinton woolldog May 2016 #28
Well said. riversedge May 2016 #31
As if you care; the people donating to Sanders' campaign trust him. Your concern is worth nothing. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #36
it's worth more than your concern. MariaThinks May 2016 #38
I'm a student who donated to Bernie. I think my concern is worth a hell of a lot more. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #44
So what? Many students have donated to Hillary and probably even Drumpf. MariaThinks May 2016 #46
No doubt; my point is my opinion about how Bernie spends the money is more valuable than a HRC JonLeibowitz May 2016 #49
i agree. so does an HRC SUPPORTER. They don't count to you? MariaThinks May 2016 #54
Their opinion is worthless in the question of how Bernie runs his campaign and spends his money. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #57
ok MariaThinks May 2016 #60
Well, your assertions about the Sanders profiting from the campaign are just that. CentralMass May 2016 #42
there is nothing wrong in accepting speaking fees. It's called commerce and capitalism. MariaThinks May 2016 #50
There are many who see it as monied interests buying influence. CentralMass May 2016 #65
Some of us call it future influence or 840high May 2016 #110
Before the Third Way took over the Democratic party Lokijohn May 2016 #117
At least Hillary was paid by thise who could afford it. She never took 200K from a strugling college lunamagica May 2016 #48
"Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons" think May 2016 #72
We are contributing because we want to. Silver_Witch May 2016 #75
We are not stupid. We always knew Bernie was a long shot. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #102
Agreed completely. Silver_Witch May 2016 #113
When Hillary is profiting off the back of investment bankers, that means she is beholding to them. -none May 2016 #82
Hillary is smarter and more successful - thanks for posting. MariaThinks May 2016 #37
Who's interests is she representing ? CentralMass May 2016 #74
Well, when you got Bialystock & Bloom as your campaign managers... baldguy May 2016 #27
Do they get to keep unspent money? MariaThinks May 2016 #32
I'm not sure, Maria woolldog May 2016 #39
The answer is 'no'. But your question is phrased curiously -- as if the answer is 'yes' JonLeibowitz May 2016 #47
it would explain why someone keeps running knowing he/she can't win. MariaThinks May 2016 #51
As would many other explanations. Just because you can imagine a nefarious purpose does not imply JonLeibowitz May 2016 #55
So where does the money in the account go? MariaThinks May 2016 #61
maybe you could do some research on Federal campaign finance law before speculating? JonLeibowitz May 2016 #63
I have. And it's not pretty. MariaThinks May 2016 #66
LOL. And see Post #59 for a debunking of your 'concerns' JonLeibowitz May 2016 #70
I hope you dont' think you're Jon Stewart. MariaThinks May 2016 #123
No. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #45
Candidates don't get to keep unspent campaign funds for themselves. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #59
There you go again, thinking everyone acts just like your candidate. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #33
BILLIONS!!!!! tabasco May 2016 #43
Sure they do... Bobbie Jo May 2016 #76
THE HUMANITY!!!! tabasco May 2016 #83
Then start another Clinton thread. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #84
Then tell me more about this "cash flow" and why it is a problem for anyone. tabasco May 2016 #85
Start with the link I've already provided Bobbie Jo May 2016 #88
You mean the one I already responded to? tabasco May 2016 #90
You call that a response? Bobbie Jo May 2016 #91
Just as I thought. tabasco May 2016 #97
Classic dog whistle. Your entire cohort is defined by this sort of trash. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #62
Yes, pretty much every classic anti-Semitic trope QC May 2016 #71
Well....I suspect you can explain to us when Jane O'Meara Sanders became Jewish? msanthrope May 2016 #80
Tad and Jeff gonna cash in. $$$. nt LexVegas May 2016 #64
It would be interesting to see if any Sanders family member works msanthrope May 2016 #77
That dog whistle is so loud that even the conure heard it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #81
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #86
Disgusting anti-Semitic remark. bettyellen May 2016 #112
Bernie and Jane Sanders aren't getting paid Eric J in MN May 2016 #89
Those tax returns would have given us a glimpse Sheepshank May 2016 #101
Seriously?? DeeDeeNY May 2016 #107
Another divisive post from another Hillary supporter. B Calm May 2016 #108
And the clintons and all the other candidates? oldandhappy May 2016 #111
Thịs is a horrible OP gollygee May 2016 #115
If not the dumbest OP I have seen on here it is close rurallib May 2016 #119
The FEC reports will be very interesting readimg Gothmog May 2016 #121
I agree Demsrule86 May 2016 #125
probably not as much as one of Hillary's speeches eom noiretextatique May 2016 #126
It really seems to bug Establishment Dems... ljm2002 May 2016 #127
One of the biggest piles of metabolic byproducts ever. hobbit709 May 2016 #128
... CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #133
you'd have to audit the financials of Old Towne Media to find out nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #134

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
116. It's hippy-kicking. Bernie so poor. Bernie so bad. Doing this for the money.
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:05 PM
May 2016

Pathetic, considering he's the only actual Democrat and progressive for miles around.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
122. it could be that some people's supporters dont understand
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

Someone who won't take skim. If bernie wanted dough like that he could sell himself to the oligarchs. This thread is rot and an eye opener to the other side.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
21. For the last 40 years candidates for President have released their tax returns.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:01 PM
May 2016

I don't know why Bernie feels that he's above this kind of basic disclosure that's expected of serious presidential candidates.

 

portlander23

(2,078 posts)
56. Sure
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

What's unprecedented was Mrs. Clinton going hat in hand to the financial industry in the run up to the primary and coordinating directly with a super pac, but sure, let's keep attacking Mr. Sanders on the corruption angle. Please.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
95. So what is it exactly you're trying to say about President Obama?
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

Why would you make a statement about him and his long form birth certificate? You sound like Donald Trump.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
73. Actually that is Where Are His Tax Returns
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:30 PM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 30, 2016, 07:56 PM - Edit history (1)

where's stands for "where is"... "where is" refers to just one tax return "where are" would mean more than one. If you are going to be rude please try to use proper grammar.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
120. lol, thanks for catching that.
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016

Never fails that when someone calls someone else out on grammar, they've made a grammatical mistake themselves.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
3. Probably six figures
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

Obviously, Sanders cannot pay himself, but he can pay his wife a lot of money for being involved in his campaign. That is why he won't release the tax returns. Considering that he has paid family before during his House campaigns, it's hard to believe that he has cashed in on some of the tens of millions of dollars that have come in.

QC

(26,371 posts)
13. Not just themselves. They paid Sid B., loyal family retainer,
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:52 PM
May 2016

quite a lot from their "charity" to play Jethro Bodine, Double Aught Spy in Libya.

QC

(26,371 posts)
35. I'm still not sure how hiring an amateur spy
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

constitutes charity, but thank goodness we got that "regime change" in Libya, right?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
16. Projecting a bit there? Hillary is richer than God and got her money
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

from sucking up to the banksters she hopes to, uh, "regulate." Bernie has spent his entire career in public service, has an income and lifestyle that reflect that fact, and has never been accused of corruption. Corrupt people tend to assume others are as corrupt as they are, which is probably where this is coming from - if it's not a Rove/Brock attempt to slime Bernie with the same goop that covers Hillary.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
30. Sanders has never had a private sector job in his life
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

He spent years without a real paycheck until he got elected Mayor and since then his income has all been from his elected offices. He has previously paid his wife and stepdaughter for working on his campaign, so it's not a stretch to think that he's doing the same in this presidential campaign. He's continuing to solicit donations when he has lost a race, so I question the motivation. I'm not corrupt and I'm not connected to Rove or Brock, so you're being paranoid there.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
41. The fact that he's never had a private sector job speaks in his favor,
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

IMHO. Again, there has never been the slightest whiff of financial misfeasance in the 40 years or so that he's been an elected official. If he ever wanted or tried to profit from his political career there is no evidence of it at all, anywhere. It is not illegal to pay family members for working on a campaign as long as the payments are properly accounted for, and there's no evidence they were paid more than their work was worth. If Jane is getting paid it will show up on the FEC report - and it will almost certainly be much less than Hillary made from a single speech at Goldman Sachs.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
58. The fact he has never had a job outside of serving in office is pretty sad
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

I get, I get, private sector is evil and working is something that is a corporatist scheme, etc. Different strokes for different folks, so whatever. However he spends his campaigns money is his problem and it doesn't effect me since I didn't donate to him.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
67. Working in the private sector isn't evil. My point is only that as an elected official
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

Bernie has not become rich, and there's no evidence he ever took advantage of his position to make money for himself.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
87. His tax return indicates he is in the top 6% of wage earners. He paid less than
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

10% in taxes. Trump doesn't pay any income taxes and the Clintons pays 35%. I sure hope we can get the rich people to pay their fair share of taxes.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
92. While Sanders is relatively comfortable
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016

his income is not anywhere near to either the Clintons' or Trump's. My understanding is that he paid 13%, not 10%, but neither percentage is necessarily strange; it would depend on the deductions. We have a progressive tax system so it stands to reason that the Clintons pay a greater percentage of their income in taxes. The only tax returns of Trump's that we know about, which were from the '70s, show no taxes paid because he deducted a lot of losses. What, if anything, he's been paying lately is unknown. I agree that the very wealthy should pay more taxes and should not be able to take advantage of offshore tax dodges or some of the other tax avoidance methods available only to the very rich.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
94. Yup. Public employment is bad; only private business is worthy.
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

People who dedicate their lives to public service are leeches. You need to get a real job working for a good, upstanding American corporation or you aren't worth crap.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
104. True you got a point
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

On the bright side, nether Lincoln, or FDR, or LBJ or JFK or Carter would be elected these days as democrats.

QC

(26,371 posts)
98. Lately, Hillary talking points *are* right wing talking points.
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

When I came here, back in 2001, I never imagined that DU would become a place where medicine and education were dismissed as "free stuff" and change was too hard.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
100. Teachers, carpenters, film-making, youth counselor? They don't get paychecks?
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:29 PM
May 2016

Come on! That's petty nit-picking. They are just as valid as doctor, lawyer, candlestick maker!

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
105. Hillary and Bill Clinton both had best selling books which sold millions of copies. I know because
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:35 PM
May 2016

I have copies of both best sellers. That alone would have made them both rich. And I don't begrudge them their personal wealth since they earned it. They didn't steal it. They also didn't invent the concept of giving speeches for a fee. Public Speaking for fees has been going on for at least the past hundred years. There's a whole industry built around it. Why does Bernie and his supporters act like this is something NEW. And it's not illegal, so get over it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
109. "The Clintons have thrived... within a corrupt system
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

and have become obscenely wealthy because of it."

Of course, there is very good reason to believe that the billionaires and corporations that donate to Clinton or pay her generously for 30-minute speeches are expecting something in return (as with every other politician they donate to). Wall Street bankers don’t contribute to both Republicans and Democrats because they like Republicans and Democrats equally, but to hedge their bets (needless to say, some politicians are much more willing to bend than others).

This is all an indictment of the system, not any particular politician; but the fact that the Clintons have thrived for so long within this system and have become obscenely wealthy because of it should trouble any progressives who want to see meaningful reform. As former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich put it, Clinton is the “most qualified candidate for president of the political system we now have,” but “Sanders is the most qualified candidate to create the political system we should have.”

What has been especially disturbing about the 2016 Democratic primary debate over money in politics has been the extent to which partisan Democrats have been willing to use right-wing talking points to defend their preferred candidate, dismissing big money contributions as inconsequential without concrete evidence of quid pro quo.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/29/hillary_clintons_big_donor_problem_isnt_going_away_her_history_of_taking_wall_street_cash_exemplifies_all_thats_wrong_in_u_s_politics/

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
24. Jane Sanders isn't getting paid for his pres campaign.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

If she were, it would be in the campaign's FEC reports.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
5. His Senate salary continues, I suppose.
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

Candidates don't get paid for running for office. That's why most candidates are rich - if you aren't and you have no other source of income you can't afford to quit your job and spend all your time campaigning. Campaign funds have to be accounted for and candidates don't get a salary for campaigning. For Hillary it's not a problem because she's filthy rich already - though, sadly, the Goldman Sachs speeches gravy train had to be sidelined for now.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
135. Candidates are now permitted to pay themselves a salary from campaign funds
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jun 2016

But I don't believe Bernie does. The FEC changed the rules on that about 10 years ago to enable candidates who can't otherwise afford to take the time off to campaign to do so.

kayakjohnny

(5,235 posts)
10. At least he's working for every nickle of it.
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

Unlike.... Blah, fundraiser. Blah, you owe me. Blah, it's my turn. Blah, give me the keys to the White house.

QC

(26,371 posts)
12. Do you still believe that Hillary has "set the woman's movement back"?
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

And that "the whining and moaning about sexism is off-putting as well"?

And that the election is "about picking the President of the United States, not some gender crusade"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6154682

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
17. I believe that she should not focus on her gender or women's issues. As I wrote just yesterday,
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2079751

"She is focusing too much on speaking to women and addressing women's issues. This is alienating men. She needs to work on male outreach."
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
52. Trump happened.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

The tea party happened. Biden not running for the nomination happened. A lot of other shit has happened. It's time to close ranks QC.

I'm a pragmatist above all else.

QC

(26,371 posts)
68. I agree that Trump is a potential disaster.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

But I'm not sure how nominating the only other politician as distrusted and unpopular among the voting public as Trump is the way to avoid him.

Yes, I was hoping for Elizabeth Warren, but one consequence of the Clintons having such a grip on the national party is that virtually no one else was willing to run against HRC, only Sanders.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
124. Right because women don't matter to Bernie and his peeps
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:29 AM
May 2016

This is why I don't support Bernie. The day he said the abortion issue was a distraction...I was done. I have heard nothing about equal pay, abortion, birth control...etc from Bernie. Also, I don't for wagging your finger in a woman's face...had it done to many times.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
129. I guess if you have heard nothing about...
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

...equal pay, abortion, birth control...etc from Bernie, then you have not been listening to his campaign speeches, where he repeatedly mentions equal pay for equal work, and the absolute right of a woman to control her own body. In fact he led his speech at Liberty U by pointing out his position on abortion rights.

IOW you are spreading misinformation when you say "women don't matter to Bernie and his peeps".

And BTW, don't be wagging you finger in a woman's face either; I too have had it done too many times.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
131. I have listened
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

I heard nothing of the kind...in fact, he did call abortion a distraction. He has no interest in Women's issues as far as I can tell. It is all about the banks...sick of hearing it.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
14. Im sure what we send him is enough
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:52 PM
May 2016

But if it isnt we will accomidate him. No big deal.

Trusting someone like Bernie is easy.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
26. I don't have a problem with Clinton
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

profiting off the backs of investment bankers.

I do have a problem with Bernie and Jane profiting off the backs of schoolteachers and mechanics, all under the guise that he still has some sort of "chance" to be the nominee. It's disgraceful.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
34. That's a good point. Bernie is lying to people making them believe there is a democratic path to
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

victory.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
130. "Bernie is lying to people"...
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:47 AM
May 2016

..."making them believe there is a democratic path to victory."

Then I guess Hillary is lying as well, since she clearly also believes there is "a democratic path to victory."

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
25. From Money Nation
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016
http://moneynation.com/hillary-clinton-net-worth/

Hillary Clinton’s net worth is $31.3 million. Our Hillary Clinton net worth number comes from analyzing her 2015 U.S. Public Financial Disclosure Reports. Bill Clinton has an estimated net worth of $80 million. That gives a combined Bill and Hillary Clinton net worth of $111 million dollar" (It is possibly higher as mentioned in the article.)

Hillary Clinton net worth vs Bernie Sanders net worth: 59 times larger.

Hillary Clinton net worth vs Jeb Bush net worth: 1.5 times larger.

Hillary Clinton net worth vs Ben Carson net worth: About the same.

Hillary Clinton net worth vs median U.S. household net worth: 459 times larger.
 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
28. I don't have a problem with Clinton
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

profiting off the backs of investment bankers.

I do have a problem with Bernie and Jane profiting off the backs of schoolteachers and mechanics, all under the guise that he still has some sort of "chance" to be the nominee. It's disgraceful.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
49. No doubt; my point is my opinion about how Bernie spends the money is more valuable than a HRC
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

supporter's opinion. Because I have skin in the game. This isn't that complicated.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
42. Well, your assertions about the Sanders profiting from the campaign are just that.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

Hillary's $625,000 paycheck for speaking at Goldman Sachs is almost double Sanders entire networth.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
50. there is nothing wrong in accepting speaking fees. It's called commerce and capitalism.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:18 PM
May 2016

it's not like cheney who started a war to cash in his haliburton stock options.

Lokijohn

(46 posts)
117. Before the Third Way took over the Democratic party
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:05 PM
May 2016

it was called bribery and corruption. $150 million dollars in 'speaking fees'. wow

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
48. At least Hillary was paid by thise who could afford it. She never took 200K from a strugling college
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016
 

think

(11,641 posts)
72. "Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons"
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:28 PM
May 2016
Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons

CONOR FRIEDERSDORF JUL 31, 2015

The Wall Street Journal’s eyebrow-raising story of how the presidential candidate and her husband accepted cash from UBS without any regard for the appearance of impropriety that it created.

~Snip~

The article adds that “there is no evidence of any link between Mrs. Clinton’s involvement in the case and the bank’s donations to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, or its hiring of Mr. Clinton.” Maybe it’s all a mere coincidence, and when UBS agreed to pay Bill Clinton $1.5 million the relevant decision-maker wasn’t even aware of the vast sum his wife may have saved the bank or the power that she will potentially wield after the 2016 presidential election.

But even that wouldn’t make accepting the $1.5 million excusable.

If you’re Bill Clinton and your wife has recently intervened, in her capacity as a cabinet secretary, to help a giant corporation avert a significant threat to its bottom-line, the very least you could do, if only to avoid the appearance of impropriety, is to avoid negotiating seven-figure paydays with that same corporation. This is particularly jaw-dropping because ultra-wealthy Bill Clinton has virtually unlimited opportunities to give lucrative speeches to any number of audiences not directly implicated by decisions that his wife made as secretary of state....

Read more:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/


 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
75. We are contributing because we want to.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

He is not "profiting" off our backs. It is a movement my friend, not just a campaign. Pay attention and you will see we are contributing not because we think he will win, rather because one should never give up until the game is over.

The game is not over!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
102. We are not stupid. We always knew Bernie was a long shot.
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

We contribute to his campaign because, win or lose, he has been starting a progressive movement that desperately needed someone to organize it and stir up enthusiasm. I'm happy to contribute even knowing that Hillary will most likely get the nomination. Bernie isn't lying to his supporters - he's telling them that he needs them to keep the movement going no matter who is nominated.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
113. Agreed completely.
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

We are making a movement. I send money because I choose to! It is still my money so anyone like the person above that judges how I spend my money is proof that he/she is not a true liberal if she/he believe they get to judge how other contribute their money.

-none

(1,884 posts)
82. When Hillary is profiting off the back of investment bankers, that means she is beholding to them.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

When Bernie, as you say, is profiting off the backs of schoolteachers and mechanics, that means he is beholding to them also, correct?
Who is more deserving of being represented by our representatives? Wealthy people preying on the rest of us for their riches, or us commoners, such as schoolteachers and mechanics, who are struggling to get by?
I think us commoners are more deserving of proper representation, over those rich enough that they can buy their own Congress critters and department heads.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
74. Who's interests is she representing ?
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016
http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/13/investing/hillary-clinton-wall-street/
Clinton made $3.15 million in 2013 alone from speaking to firms like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank and UBS, according to the list her campaign released of her speaking fees."

"While Clinton has given paid speeches to many groups, Wall Street banks and investment houses made up a third of her speech income.
She even made more money speaking to UBS and Goldman Sachs than her husband Bill did. Goldman Sachs in New York paid Bill $200,000 for a speech in June 2013 and Hillary $225,000 for a speech in October of that year."

2014 was an even more lucrative year.

What are these firms expecting to get when they pay $225.00 for a 40 minute speech. ?

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
47. The answer is 'no'. But your question is phrased curiously -- as if the answer is 'yes'
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

Presupposing guilt is embarrassing.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
55. As would many other explanations. Just because you can imagine a nefarious purpose does not imply
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

its validity.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
59. Candidates don't get to keep unspent campaign funds for themselves.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

The money belongs to the campaign committee, not the candidate. According to the FEC's rules a campaign committee is allowed to donate the funds to charities or political parties; or contribute $2000 per election to other candidates; or save the money in case the candidate decides to run again. The candidate doesn't get a nickel.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
83. THE HUMANITY!!!!
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016
MONTPELIER — Rep. Bernard Sanders’ wife Jane was paid about $30,000 from 2002 to 2004 for work on his campaigns, while his stepdaughter Carina Driscoll got about $65,000 over a five-year period ending last year, a Sanders aide said Wednesday.


$10,000 a year for wife for 3 years while working on campaigns.
$13,000 a year for step-daughter for 5 years while working on campaigns

A friend of Chelsea Clinton made $275,000 in five months while working for the Clinton Foundation.

It takes some nerve to complain about those expenditures by Sanders while the Clintons take graft and influence-peddling to new heights with their "foundation" aka slush fund.


"Much of the Foundation’s money goes to travel ($8.5 million in 2013); conferences, conventions and meetings ($9.2 million); and payroll and employee benefits ($30 million). Ten executives received salaries of more than $100,000 in 2013. Eric Braverman, a friend of Chelsea Clinton, was paid nearly $275,000 in salary, benefits, and a housing allowance for just five months’ work as CEO that year."

Why the Clinton Foundation is so controversial


http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/02/economist-explains-4


 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
85. Then tell me more about this "cash flow" and why it is a problem for anyone.
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:05 PM
May 2016

I'm all ears. Links and sources for all the scathing facts, please.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
88. Start with the link I've already provided
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

and we'll go from there.

Actually no, you're not the least bit interested, and I'm not playing fetch for you anyway.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
62. Classic dog whistle. Your entire cohort is defined by this sort of trash.
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

There has been so much of it. It's disgusting.

QC

(26,371 posts)
71. Yes, pretty much every classic anti-Semitic trope
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

has been deployed against Sanders right here on an ostensibly liberal site.

It's sickening.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
80. Well....I suspect you can explain to us when Jane O'Meara Sanders became Jewish?
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-is-biggest-spender-of-2016-so-far--generating-millions-for-consultants/2016/04/28/600170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html

According to that article, campaign staff directly benefits from ad buy revenue. HRC capped the amount for her staffers, Bernie did not.

Response to woolldog (Original post)

Response to woolldog (Original post)

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
89. Bernie and Jane Sanders aren't getting paid
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:16 PM
May 2016

...for the presidential campaign.

The campaign pays its vendors as does the Clinton campaign and most presidential campaigns. Have you objected to any other campaigns paying vendors?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
115. Thịs is a horrible OP
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

Do you think only rich people should run for office?

This is shocking in how classist and rude it is.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
119. If not the dumbest OP I have seen on here it is close
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

I thought my ignore list was complete, but let's add one more.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
125. I agree
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:31 AM
May 2016

Pretty obvious with the college thing that they may not handle funds well...unless they had an accountant with a familiarity of election law...there may be trouble.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
127. It really seems to bug Establishment Dems...
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

...that a back bencher, lifelong Democratic Socialist like Bernie Sanders can beat the Clinton machine in fund raising, by appealing to individuals all over the country and convincing them to make repeated small donations.

Well suck it! Because that is part of the political revolution Bernie has been talking about.

A lot of us are DONE ever giving money to the DNC, who use it to suppress progressive candidates, and who funnel the money back to HRC anyway these days.

Yep, a new day has dawned. The road ahead may be bumpy, but Bernie has shown us that it is possible to carve out a new road and pave it ourselves, and that is what we shall do.

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