Clinton lawyer to FBI: Clinton is under NO legal obligation to give interview.

[kcjohn1]

https://twitter.com/DavidShuster/status/737767341577080832



Can you trust anything ever to come out of Hillary's mouth? Remember when she said her email server was allowed by the State Department? Or when she said she was "fully cooperating" with the State Department? Or the FBI was conducting "security review"?

She is changing her tune to "happy to talk to FBI" to I don't have to. Indictment or not, this FBI report will be devastating to her.

[msongs]

1. bernie sanders is under no obligation give interview either nt

[Luminous Animal]

4. Neither is Captain Crunch.

But neither Bernie nor Captain Crunch vowed to cooperate.

[LiberalElite]

123. Kind of you to point this out - but needless as the FBI has no reason to question Sanders nt

[roguevalley]

156. she might not have a legal obligation but if she doesn't

it reinforces her nobles oblige and her unfavorables and untrustworthy numbers which are hovering near zero. She should because it will tell the story to a lot of people that she would if she didn't have anything to hide. Even if she didn't, it will look like it. she has never been good on optics.

[merrily]

159. Kudos. The non sequitur award is safe for yet another thread.

[tk2kewl]

167. yes... Hillary has the right to remain silent

[cherokeeprogressive]

169. Boom.

[ljm2002]

183. Then again, the FBI has not requested an interview with Sanders...

...so there is that.

[Press Virginia]

2. Of course she's not going to do an interview. The way she lies she'll talk herself

into a perjury and obstruction of justice charge.

But it will be fun to see how she explains why she won't help the FBI in its routine security review.

[NWCorona]

56. Ever since it came out that Hillary was the only SoS not to cooperate

I thought she was probably ducking the FBI as well.

[NWCorona]

72. Agreed! I think a lot of people never thought it would come to that.

Other than those who have been paying attention.

[grasswire]

90. and we who have been paying attention have been vilified for a long time. nt

[NWCorona]

102. At least we were right

[desmiller]

104. Too long. nt

[winter is coming]

154. You say that as if the vilifying is about to end.

More likely, folks are just getting warmed up.

[Press Virginia]

75. Yep. The FBI would get a hold of that interview and compare notes

It's just going to be funny to watch the spin.

Can she claim it's a witch hunt? The VRWC infiltrated the FBI and the office of the IG just to get her?

[NWCorona]

79. Watching the Real time evolution of the spin has been entertaining to say the least.

[Press Virginia]

82. certainly explains the lack of press conferences and venues where the questions

and questioners aren't controlled

[DebDoo]

92. You mean all the phone interviews? I think she's scared to show her face while lying - it's too

Hard to hide the dishonesty in her face this time around.

[Press Virginia]

94. She ain't chuckling when they ask her questions anymore

[winter is coming]

117. I love the phone interviews. It's like a neon sign reading, "I'm desperate!" n/t

[2banon]

158. it also explains why she reneged on the California debate.

the questions going straight to those "damn emails"

[mmonk]

163. Her lawyer is taking her shovel away.

[Exilednight]

3. WTF country do I live in? Russia does this shit, and apparently we do too.

[JoePhilly]

36. Russia gives you lawyers?

[Exilednight]

97. yeah, they do.

[JoePhilly]

129. Bastards!!!

[winter is coming]

5. Yeah, that'll help.

[BillZBubb]

8. They must know someone talked or the FBI has some emails they hoped were lost.

Hillary is afraid of getting a perjury or obstruction rap. That's a desperate gamble.

[Press Virginia]

10. Or they assume someone talked or the FBI found something. They don't know for

sure what the FBI knows which is why her lawyer would be smart to keep her away from any interviews.
She can't tell the truth...like she's completely incapable of performing the act at all. She'd talk herself into a felony

[BillZBubb]

13. Well, that would indicate then that she has already committed a felony.

[Press Virginia]

16. Could be a misdemeanor.

[leveymg]

70. It's a felony, Sec 793, but she could plead down to 1924 like Petraeus.

It all depends how she wants to play it. If she doesn't deal before the Convention - release her delegates in exchange for a pardon - I hope they prosecute her on 22 felony counts.

[Press Virginia]

78. A quick health scare from the stress? And then a quiet plea?

[leveymg]

100. What is this, Moscow? Just let the IC IG kick the door open and follow up with a candid FBI

report in the next few weeks. The uproar will change the political terrain. She won't even want to set foot in Philly if Comey recommends indictment. If she continued to run regardless there would be chaos and floor fights and an all-consuming media feeding frenzy.

[Press Virginia]

105. Uhhhhhhhhhh what?

[leveymg]

118. If the FBI recommends indictment, she's finished. If the report

falls short of that, and merely lays out her acts and how they implicate the law, without a recommendation, then it turns into a war of attrition fought with clubs and rocks. No real immediate winners but the sort of fight the GOP would relish. Very ugly with a depressed Democratic turnout and Trump could win. I hope to hell the Democratic leadership won't let that happen.

[Bob41213]

120. I think this mean she's finished and she knows it. If she doesn't talk, she's trying to cop a plea.

Maybe she's delusional enough to think she can still run, afterall 50% said she should....

But her lawyers know what's coming and running for President is the least of her worries....

[pdsimdars]

172. Man, you are good. Very nice, concise reading of the situation.

[Merryland]

108. a revolution is underway.

[hopemountain]

160. "do you think hillary clinton needs a clean bill of health

from the fbi before she accepts the democratic nomination?" - chuck todd, msnbc to bernie sanders on meet the press, msnbc 5.29.16


this question from chuckie really stood out to me. i kept wondering why he would pose his question in this manner - referencing her health.he has probably heard something - and bernie, too.

you may not be too far off, press virginia.
spidey senses?

[winter is coming]

65. Pagliano got immunity. Guccifer got a plea bargain. Some of the "lost"

emails were actually backed up in the cloud. Pick any or all.

[Bob41213]

125. Yeah, and Obama probably just called her and said he can't protect her any longer....

[JDPriestly]

143. Suspects are wise to avoid speaking with prosecutors if they can.

She is probably following her lawyer's advice.

[BillZBubb]

6. Wow. If she's going down that road it must be really bad.

[pmorlan1]

9. Yup

Her attorney is wise to advise her not to take the interview. And yes it does indicate that it's not good for her. If she is not participating in an interview I guess we should hear soon from the FBI.

[Press Virginia]

12. How's she going to spin it becomes the big question.

[pmorlan1]

20. No telling?

I would, however, like to hear the context of this statement from Kendall. So far I don't see any news report about it.

[grasswire]

26. yes, it will make the wait shorter.

Not speaking to the FBI is almost like a confession.

They have enough already anyway. And one of those witnesses is going to crack.

[pmorlan1]

35. Still Innocent Until Proven Guilty

but when you are running for president the Party may not wait to find out.

[Press Virginia]

80. Yeah because a candidate under indictment is a sure winner

I see a health scare on the horizon

[JudyM]

44. Good point. Less work for them, they can just wrap it up.

[Tal Vez]

7. A federal judge just ruled that Trump has been improperly trying to conceal documents

from the public. That sounds to me every bit as serious as Clinton's failure to use a State Department server. I can't find that any actual harm was caused by Trump's attempt to conceal documents or by Clinton's failure to use a State Department server.

We still have to choose between them in November. You use your scale and I'll use mine.

[BillZBubb]

17. That's the latest Brock spin. Not gonna work. And no the trump and Clinton problems are not equal.

What Hillary has done is far more serious. But, keep pushing the nonsense, who knows someone may buy it.

[Tal Vez]

32. If you think that Clinton's mistakes are "far more serious" than Trump's mistakes,

then you and I disagree. But, that's okay. It's your vote.

[frylock]

58. You're probably right. It's not like national security is an issue in these elections anyway.

[Press Virginia]

85. Trump is dealing with a civil lawsuit not a criminal investigation

[grasswire]

112. and Trump wasn't sharing top secret documents on an unsecured server or..

...with unauthorized recipients.

[Press Virginia]

113. As far as we know

[senz]

130. Hill was in government. Much more serious.

It's not like she is hiding personal secrets. She was hiding actions from the government.

[floppyboo]

18. Or Clinton could step aside. Not too late for that.

[Tal Vez]

37. Maybe if you wrote her a letter and explained your position . . .

[CentralMass]

57. Just don't email her.

[JudyM]

49. Her duty was much higher as a public official in her position. Plus the worst they'd probably get

tRump on is fraud... She's looking at much, much worse!

[IdaBriggs]

71. National Security and possible government corruption versus

civil fraud from an incompetent con man?

NONE OF THE ABOVE. Go, Bernie!

[Tal Vez]

74. I haven't heard of any significant actual damage to national security.

I know, you like Bernie. I like him, too.

Maybe we should look at this problem again when we have a nominee.

[IdaBriggs]

84. Disingenuous Answer: People affected by this with national security

CAN'T COMPLAIN. Losing assets or having missions go badly because the SoS compromised them -- how can the intelligence agencies PUBLICLY COMPLAIN without doing more damage?

She is counting on their silence, and our disregard for the risks they take.

It is shameful.

[Tal Vez]

91. Yeah, it's like that old story:

"This box may look empty but I can't tell you what's in there so that's how you know it's not empty."

The short answer is that there was no significant actual damage.

The longer answer is that you like Bernie. Well, I like him, too. Maybe we should discuss this issue again after we have a nominee.

[hopemountain]

162. and you know this because you are fbi?

you have access to all of her emails? you have read them all and know exactly that your claim is truth?

pffffft. tal vez, verdad?

[Matt_R]

168. Better story

"compromised national security by running an unsecured server in their basement that held classified documents."

The box was not empty it contained classified documents.

[Merryland]

103. There is much anger among them.

[Joe the Revelator]

149. that is some A+ nativity.

[BootinUp]

11. Shuster doesn't speak for the FBI, as far as I know. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Shuster still has a bug up his ass for losing his MSNBC job when he called Chelsea Clinton a whore.

That is when his career began his downward spiral. His last gig was on the now defuct Al-Jazeera America.

[One Black Sheep]

15. Ok, now this is getting interesting

Hillary better be very careful, she doesn't want to piss off the FBI...or Director Comey. That could be very painful for her. Who knows what the FBI may do if they think Hillary is disrespecting them. (indictments? charges? new investigations? leaks to the press?)

[Karma13612]

19. I guess I must be confused.

Since when does someone have the option of simply NOT doing an interview with the FBI if they summon you for an 'interview'.

Or is this somehow different from being called to testify or be interrogated?

The word parsing is enuf to drive a person crazy.

[kcjohn1]

21. I suspect they are trying to tell FBI

That she will take the 5th on everything, and thus don't waste your time trying to set up an interview.

Certainty long shot, but they are hoping the FBI doesn't do the interview. If they do, it will make their spin job much more difficult in explaining how an innocent and fully cooperating individual takes the 5th on all questions posed by the FBI.

[Karma13612]

165. +100. Eom

[CentralMass]

61. It takes an unprecedented level of arrogance and the right connections..

[NWCorona]

64. Yes it's optional unless there was a subpoena issued

And any attorney worth his salt would instruct his client not to attend.

The problem is this is Hillary and she said she has nothing to hide.

[msanthrope]

77. Since we passed something called the 5th amendment. nt

[pdsimdars]

173. I think that is the case for everyone. They invite you and you can refuse. That's the way it is

[MrMickeysMom]

22. FEAR DROVE THAT DECISION... NOTHING ELSE!

I don't think I could place much faith in the artful DODGING of questions, for FEAR of the kind of TAP DANCING that would ensue.

[geek tragedy]

23. Sources: 5th Amendment has not been repealed.

Zzzzzzz.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. She will cooperate...

David Shuster still has a bug up his ass for losing his MSNBC job for calling Chelsea Clinton a whore, a move that put his career on a downward spiral.

[Luminous Animal]

46. She didn't cooperate with State even though she pledged to...

From Hillary's website:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

:large

[JudyM]

52. She "pledged" to cooperate?! that's a setup for a big P.R. takedown.

[Press Virginia]

88. She said she'd be happy to talk to anybody about her emails

I'm sure that didn't exclude the IG

[JudyM]

109. Are you serious or missing the sarcasm emoji?

[Press Virginia]

110. The latter

[Jarqui]

60. unless someone wants to talk to her about it ... like the

Inspector General for the State Department

... or the FBI ...

You don't pull that over a little "mistake"

Something bigger is going on.

[DebDoo]

95. Ahh, but she only agreed to cooperate with the "security review" - she's not going anywhere near the

Investigation.

[pangaia]

89. You said that already.

What is this, copy and paste night?

[morningfog]

87. Right to not criminally incriminate ones self is probably not the angle you want here.

[geek tragedy]

121. When a lawyer says his client is cooperating completely voluntarily, that's exactly

what is underlying that statement.

This is all completely out of context so hard to say what tenor of exchange actually was.

[cheapdate]

132. +1

[Joe the Revelator]

150. To quote Hillary's buddy James Carville....

That dog't ain't going to hunt.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. "I ain't tellin' ya nuttin', copper!" New Hillary bumper sticker.

[KeepItReal]

33. LMAO!

[Ned_Devine]

38. Perfect!

[grasswire]

25. THAT ought to play well at FBI HQ.

Go ahead. Go full Nixon!

[Merryland]

106. yeah - The FBI must be angling for an interview & he's taunting them...

[Barack_America]

140. Comedy's going to need another press conference.

To discuss "other things", but be willing to set the record straight on the Clinton investigation.

[hedda_foil]

142. Did your auto correct decide to change Comey to Comedy?

[Barack_America]

166. Yeah it did. Hilarious.

My husband's autocorrect today suggested to a friend that we are swingers. We're not, but we were offering to "swing by".

[highprincipleswork]

28. More mafia like shit.

[pmorlan1]

29. Could Be a Stalling Tactic

She is trying to get nomination before FBI interview.

[JudyM]

53. Couldn't be more clear.

Also take a glance at my post #59.

[frylock]

63. Yep.

[Merryland]

111. this aggressive stance toward the f'ing FBI

speaks for itself. This is going to get ugly soon.

[annavictorious]

30. Isn't Schuster the tool who was suspended from MSNBC in 2008

for saying that the Clinton' were "pimping out" Chelsea?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. His last job was with the now defunct Al Jazeera-America.

[JonLeibowitz]

136. Indeed -- anyone who worked for a failed network has no business doing reporting

[DemocratSinceBirth]

138. Thank you for agreeing with me.

I always knew you were a bright lad.

[winter is coming]

41. No. He was suspended for interviewing with CNN when his contract was running out. n/t

[StevieM]

152. Shuster was suspended by MSNBC twice.

The first time was in 2008 during the Clinton/Obama primary race. It was for comments he made regarding Chelsea Clinton.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/08/AR2008020803756.html

The second time was in 2010, and as you said it was for working on a project with CNN.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/06/david-shuster-suspended-f_n_526699.html

Apparently he is now allowed back.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/david-shuster-returns-to-msnbc/292125

[Sparkly]

31. She's smart.

She's well schooled in GOP tactics by now.

She'll answer questions as appropriate. She just won't fall into the trap of playing their game.

She'll abide by the law and she's a lawyer. She knows the games they're playing.

She'll answer hostile questions for 11 hours straight. And when she does, THEY lose.

[JoePhilly]

42. YUP ... the only way Whitewater becomes BJ-gate is answering too many ...

... questions.

Every question you answer becomes another thread they can pull.

If they have evidence of a crime, they should charge you with that crime. And if you answer questions, only do so if you think it helps you clear things up.

But if you think answering some questions opens you up for more allegations of silly nonsense. Its not worth doing.

Let them scream that you won't just tell them what they want you to say.

[jeff47]

134. Actually, the opposite happened.

Starr's investigation was running out of stuff to investigate. He was down to a few outstanding subpoenas, such as the Rose Law Firm billing records. Eventually they were found.

Nothing nefarious in those records, but Clinton hid them for several years. If she had turned them over when they were subpoenaed, Starr would have been out of material before he found Lewinsky.

[Yupster]

146. I had forgotten about the billing records

Here's the NY Times story on how they came to be found in the White House after they had been subpoenaed for two years. Don't know if Hillary has ever changed her account which at the time was that she had no idea how a subpoenaed document got into the White House.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/06/us/elusive-papers-of-law-firm-are-found-at-white-house.html?pagewanted=all

[kcjohn1]

43. "I think last August I made it clear I'm more than ready to talk to anybody anytime"

She already refused through her lawyers to talk to Obama's / Kerry's State Dept about their review.

So now she is refusing to talk to FBI. If she is not talking to anyone, why does she need to blatantly lie to the public about her "talking to anybody anytime"?

[pangaia]

93. Right. Another right wing game.

Not this time, nice try...



You know, BTW, one of your Hill 'friends', told me and every other Bernie supporter to shut the fuck up or get the fuck out.

That's sweet.

[catnhatnh]

34. New nickname for HRC

Queen Hillary the 5th...

[840high]

55. lol

[Jarqui]

62. +1 :)

[JonLeibowitz]

137. +2 :-D

[TheCowsCameHome]

45. Miraculously, subpoenas cure that.

[frylock]

68. That should be good for a few news cycles.

[ibegurpard]

48. great that's going to play well...

[Joob]

50. LOL Sooo.. is Hillary just going to hide from the FBI now? That makes sense.........................

[2cannan]

178. Maybe she can get lost in the crowd at a Bernie rally! nt

[frylock]

51. This would lead me to believe that they've called her for an interview, and she's stonewalled them.

Trying to run out the clock. That always works out real well for her.

[pangaia]

96. Makes me also just wonder,

the real reason she just hopped off to California to 'campaign,...

No idea.. but...

[pdsimdars]

174. I was wondering what was going on. They were supposedly going to interview her in May

some time. I kept waiting and didn't hear a thing. Maybe this was why.

[elleng]

54. Let's see where it gets her.

[tblue37]

141. Close, but no cigar:

[JudyM]

59. This public leak could well be staged to make her look "good" when she assents to the interview.

To give her "cooperation" more of a sheen, like she'll come out on Thursday and say of course I'll talk to them, that was just my legal team telling me I do don't have to.

She is measuring every step at this point. She has to do something to look a little better in advance of Big Tuesday. This is one way to help a little. What would not help is looking like you're not going to cooperate. So if she were not going to assent to the interview she would just be dragging out negotiations for one more week, easy to do on her traveling schedule. Or one step beyond, she could play it like she's going to do the interview and then think better of it next week.

[pangaia]

99. Traveling schedule.. just decided suddenly to shuffle off to Calaforneyeaaa

[JudyM]

115. Is Puerto Rico next?

[pangaia]

116. Guam is even farther...

As long as I have held off imagining things, now even I am beginning to think something may be close to going down.

And I have a sneaking suspicion Bernard knows something...

[JudyM]

127. True. Smorgasbord of options to run out the clock.

I wish it would happen this week if it's going to happen. Not much chance of that any more though.

[emulatorloo]

131. Or Shuster's anonymous sources could be wrong

It happens.

We'll know soon enough.

[JudyM]

177. Or not soon enough.

[Bob41213]

148. Or this leak could be to make her look bad for saying crap like "no one has contacted me yet"

for the past few months. And saying similar things about her aides even though they had already been interviewed.

[AzDar]

66. Her mask is slipping again...

[rateyes]

73. HILLARY IS INNOCENT

until proven guilty in a court of law. She deserves a fair trial. Give her a fair trial, DOJ, before allowing the jury to render a verdict.

[IdaBriggs]

81. Sounds like she is going to be too busy dealing with personal matters

to continue participating -- she needs to withdraw!

[Bob41213]

145. In a court of law yes, but this is something we can use to decide if she should be nominated...

[rateyes]

164. I'm with you. There is enough to indict her, in my opinion.

[Doctor_J]

171. What an excellent campaign slogan! Probably fits on a bumper sticker

Run with it

[pdsimdars]

175. "Leave Brittany alone!!!"

[Skink]

76. Take the Fifth

Watch the footage of the Keyfauver hearings to get some pointers.

[Purveyor]

83. Yeah Hillary, ride THAT pony into the general election...indeed. eom

[saltpoint]

86. Folks, we could be at the beginning

moments of another Patti Hearst-like episode, only this time with Hillary on the lam.

They'll eventually find her hunkered down in a WalMart distribution center in north Arkansas, bedraggled and incoherent.

[mooseprime]

147. ^^^^^^this!^^^^^^^

Very nicely done!!!!

[One Black Sheep]

155. LMAO

[2cannan]

180. More likely at the Kissinger's in the Dominican Republic! nt

[saltpoint]

185. ...yes -- maybe at his private

island home. He walks around shirtless with only a bullet vest and flip flops.

She sits on the viranda, sipping a cocktail, yet trembling. Kissinger brandishes his pistol, fires two shots into the tropical blue sky.

"You are safe wiz me, my darlink. Ze FBI does't know who zey are dealing wis!"

[Vote2016]

98. Worst. Democratic. Candidate. Ever.

[senz]

122. The worst of my lifetime. No comparison. The worst.

[TheFarS1de]

101. Voting base to Clinton lawyer

We are under no obligation to vote for HC in the GE . What a well thought out response from the Hindenburg/Titanic think tank .

[cantbeserious]

107. But, But - What Does HRC Have To Hide

eom

[Warren DeMontague]

114. Oh, that will look good.

[Bob41213]

119. Well apparently her lawyers know it's over for her even her supporters don't...

Bad sign. Seems they can see the writing on the wall....

[EndElectoral]

124. Comey is a Republican. He's not going to care what spin she wants to put on it.

He is not going to give her a pass on this. Read his bio, and you'll understand.

[Scootaloo]

126. Well, her lawyer is of course correct

But from a campaigning angle, this is a piss-poor move.

Oh well.

[azmom]

128. Kick

[senz]

133. Stonewalling seems to be a habit for her.

[Peachhead22]

135. Well, that's gonna do wonders for her "honest and trustworty" numbers /s

Do I even have to add a /s? It should be self evident.

[John Poet]

139. That "nothing-burger" keeps getting bigger.

It's gonna take a lotta lettuce...

[pdsimdars]

176. bigger and tastier. . . . all those new flavors . . . . .

[nadinbrzezinski]

144. Ok...

[2banon]

151. huh? how does that work?

[winter is coming]

153. FBI says, "talk to us". Lawyer says, "we don't have to."

FBI could say, "here's a subpoena" or "fine, we'll just go to the grand jury without hearing your explanation of the evidence we have against you". Either option takes time, although it might not take much. IMO, she's trying to run down the clock in the hopes of being named the presumptive nominee before the shitstorm hits, as if that will somehow protect her.

[2banon]

157. Thank you.

this is getting more bizarre with every passing day.

It's this cliff around the corner as the train rolls along, the captain says it's all cool, we're good to go. some of the passengers are completely unaware. or don't care. not sure which, and other passengers are screaming their heads off to pull the breaks.

omg.

[Vote2016]

161. @HillaryClinton we're under NO legal obligation to vote for you

[pdsimdars]

170. That is also the recommendation of Judge Napolitano on Fox

He says that any lawyer would advise her legally not to talk to the FBI.
But then POLITICALLY she has been talking it up so much, how can she NOT go talk to them. That would be bad for her politically.
What a conundrum.

[ucrdem]

179. Remember in March when Apple told them to stow it? And they did?

Well . . .

[lagomorph777]

181. They found a way to get the info they wanted, and bypassed Apple.

Same thing with Hillary.

[Herman4747]

182. Like Goldman Sachs speeches, Hillary has something to hide

[Babel_17]

184. So this is for real?

I glanced through the thread and saw nothing that leaped out in dissent.