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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:42 PM May 2016

Warning: No Trashing of the Party's Nominee Allowed on DU

And I agree.

So, after the convention, that is after the party has an official nominee, and not a day before, on DU, posts which smear the nominee will be responded to with..... well, we'll see.

On or about August 1st, if all goes according to plan (it may not) then one can expect that certain posts will be met with ... well, we'll see.

Until then enjoy the free-spirited discussions.

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Warning: No Trashing of the Party's Nominee Allowed on DU (Original Post) RobertEarl May 2016 OP
Try June 16th and presumptive nominee. upaloopa May 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #12
I've heard Hillary's going to the Big House... not the White House. AzDar May 2016 #2
That's true in the Bernie bizzaro world. upaloopa May 2016 #3
... AzDar May 2016 #5
I think Bernie and Jane will precede her with Bank fraud. Thinkingabout May 2016 #6
Yes, I see that on RW twitter all the time. riversedge Jun 2016 #66
at least 22 emails classified as the very top level of top secret (SAP) had to be removed pdsimdars Jun 2016 #71
When the site owners, incorporating the judgment of MADem May 2016 #4
Couldn't have said it better myself LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #11
Examples of bad posts after the convention and ALL votes counted RobertEarl May 2016 #7
Nobody will care anymore about BS after the convention. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #15
Look how wrong you can be RobertEarl May 2016 #20
Down by less than 100, eh? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #24
Because at least 6,000,000 white hipsters parachuted into Oakland yesterday, annavictorious Jun 2016 #61
Throughout this primary season, people have made predictions like RobertEarl's... Garrett78 Jun 2016 #75
Did you forget the sarcasm tags? Matt_R Jun 2016 #81
Thank you for that evenhanded response. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #35
you valiantly do battle with wind-mills upon your trusty ass, Rocinante. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #80
I have news for you pinebox Jun 2016 #79
after the convention drray23 May 2016 #19
Wall Street Journal had this to say RobertEarl Jun 2016 #22
And now we're pushing leftynyc Jun 2016 #43
100% horseshit "blanket statement." Miles Archer Jun 2016 #69
But it goes on to mention Biden slipping into her place Lodestar Jun 2016 #63
How is what the WSJ describe anything other than "theoretical"? onenote Jun 2016 #82
And after the general Califonz Jun 2016 #65
You could have just left out the subject line. barrow-wight Jun 2016 #32
June 15 bravenak May 2016 #8
Hillary math from bravenak. RobertEarl May 2016 #9
It's the day the primary ends here bravenak May 2016 #10
Dewey defeats Truman RobertEarl May 2016 #13
Yeah, no bravenak May 2016 #14
Sanders has lost KingFlorez May 2016 #16
Ugggg, your stuff gets old Logical May 2016 #17
Yeah right bravenak Jun 2016 #74
No, Skinner math obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #67
Titanic declared safest ship on the seven seas AgingAmerican May 2016 #18
Unsinkable RobertEarl May 2016 #21
Freaking Big Iceberg pdsimdars Jun 2016 #72
No problem-- I think we may be able to just let the F.B.I. John Poet Jun 2016 #23
You know your goose is cooked when you start praying to the indictment fairy. nt JTFrog Jun 2016 #42
Will Hillary voters kiss up to Bernie voters… CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #25
Don't hold your breath. Nyan Jun 2016 #26
Nope. n/t NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #28
Hillary campaign: "Discredit him, destroy him and worry about party unity later." merrily Jun 2016 #30
That's a direct quote from the Clinton campaign, eh? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #31
According to media, yes, that did come from the Hillary campaign. merrily Jun 2016 #33
Do you not understand leftynyc Jun 2016 #51
You seem desperate for something to complain about today. And it's not even six am! merrily Jun 2016 #53
LOL - you're being leftynyc Jun 2016 #59
And now quotation marks leftynyc Jun 2016 #45
You should take it up with CNN. merrily Jun 2016 #46
I'm taking it up with the person leftynyc Jun 2016 #49
They also go on and on stamping their feet repeatedlyand whining over stuff that no adult would, merrily Jun 2016 #57
Go ahead and use leftynyc Jun 2016 #58
Nope, they'd rather have a Trump presidency than party unity. n/t shawn703 Jun 2016 #60
Trump Presidency. srobert Jun 2016 #83
The only thing Camp Weathervane can kiss... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #73
I wouldn't dream of kissing up to a BSer!! Lil Missy Jun 2016 #77
Attention: Some like it a lot. Rex Jun 2016 #27
Your OP should have stated that your advice is contrary to Skinner's announcement on this subject. merrily Jun 2016 #29
+1 In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #34
why? I ask because admins here have or will be infact muzzling us azurnoir Jun 2016 #36
Why what? merrily Jun 2016 #37
you seem concerned about Bernie supporters being banned azurnoir Jun 2016 #38
No, I was concerned about encouraging Bernie supporters into behavior likely to get them banned merrily Jun 2016 #40
The poster seems to be a Bernie supporter himself - he has 100+ posts in the Bernie group and isn't azurnoir Jun 2016 #44
Yes, he is a Bernie supporter. So am I. That doesn't change the fact that I think disclosure should merrily Jun 2016 #47
Because I think most of us already know it's not like there aren't other threads celebrating this azurnoir Jun 2016 #50
There are other threads, but every poster does not read every thread. merrily Jun 2016 #52
you deemed it to be necessary to reply to my post, why I am not sure nor am I sure once an explanat azurnoir Jun 2016 #54
I see. The fact that you objected to my post to the OP in a way that I did not understand merrily Jun 2016 #56
I can't wait. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #39
When did you buy DU? nt JTFrog Jun 2016 #41
Skinner has already leftynyc Jun 2016 #48
One must not criticize "Dear Leader" no matter how bad the screwup. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #55
I think they use the same tailor, come to think of it. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #76
skinner will be busy house cleaning on a daily basis beachbum bob Jun 2016 #62
You're mistaken, it's June 16th on DU. Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #64
You'll swallow your pride on the 16th. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #68
Uh-huh. mac56 Jun 2016 #70
Per Skinner, it's June 16th. Then you can go somewhere else to stir shit. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #78

Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
71. at least 22 emails classified as the very top level of top secret (SAP) had to be removed
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jun 2016

from the secure government server and taken to Hillary's private, non secure, non government server. They can't simply be emailed from a government to non government because that would set off an alert. They had to be REMOVED.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. When the site owners, incorporating the judgment of
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:50 PM
May 2016

most Americans, say it's over, it's over. And they've already given us a date certain. Gird your loins, and either deal or dash.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. Examples of bad posts after the convention and ALL votes counted
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

Crazy Bernie

Bernie is a commie

Bernie can't beat Trump

BernieBros are nuts

Bernie is not a democrat

ETC.
---------------------------------
I look forward to that day.

Yours Truly, RobertEarl

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
20. Look how wrong you can be
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

Bernie's gonna win at the convention. Down by less than 100 pledged delegates, he'll get more than enough super delegates to win the nomination and post like yours will be dealt with in a manner with due respect.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. Down by less than 100, eh?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

Did you just pluck that number out of the air, or have you thought critically about how that would come to pass?

And you think the superdelegates will set a precedent of being responsible for nominating someone who didn't win the most pledged delegates? Why? Oh, right, right, the impending indictment (the one that isn't stopping elected officials, newspapers and other organizations from endorsing Clinton). Silly me. So, back to my first question. How do you figure the gap will be closed to <100?

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
61. Because at least 6,000,000 white hipsters parachuted into Oakland yesterday,
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:22 AM
Jun 2016

sang "We Shall Overcome" when confronted with the harsh reality that white males don't always automatically win, and committed to doing their own CA exit polling that will PROVE that WAR CRIMINAL $HILLARY RIGGED THE NOMINATION with the help of PAYDAY LENDER DWS and CORPORATIST, ANTI-TRANSGENDER SHILL Barney Frank.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
75. Throughout this primary season, people have made predictions like RobertEarl's...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jun 2016

...but rarely does it seem there was any reasoning behind them. Repeated requests were made for folks to use delegate math to support the notion that Sanders would end up with more pledged delegates. The only example I ever came across was one dubbed The Bern Path, which was totally unrealistic.

So, I guess 6 million white hipsters being parachuted into Oakland will have to stand as the basis for RobertEarl's prediction. Unless he can demonstrate that there was sound reasoning behind his statement--not that accountability matters at DU.

Matt_R

(456 posts)
81. Did you forget the sarcasm tags?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jun 2016

Also are you trying to suggest that most politicians are white males, or something more sinister? Maybe you just don't like our Jewish population, hate to break it to you but DWS is ""Jewish""

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
80. you valiantly do battle with wind-mills upon your trusty ass, Rocinante.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jun 2016

Your magical-thinking and faith-based prophecies are your birth-right as an American. Let no one tell you different as you valiantly do battle with wind-mills upon your trusty ass, Rocinante.

And as you yourself noted, after the nomination, posts like yours will be given all the credibility they in fact, warrant.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
79. I have news for you
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jun 2016

A lot will and they are NOT voting for Hillary.
Remember, one certain candidate has already reached out to Bernie and they are talking and that person is from neither party.
It could happen.

drray23

(7,587 posts)
19. after the convention
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:16 PM
May 2016

senator Sanders will go back to the senate or retire. Nobody will talk about him. The topics will be about the general against Trump and policy discussions.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. Wall Street Journal had this to say
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton Might Not Be the Nominee - Wall Street Journal
There is now more than a theoretical chance that Hillary Clinton may not be the Democratic nominee for president.

How could that happen, given that her nomination has been considered a sure thing by virtually everyone in the media and in the party itself? Consider the possibilities.

The inevitability behind Mrs. Clinton’s nomination will be in large measure eviscerated if she loses the June 7 California primary to Bernie Sanders. That could well happen.

More... http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-might-not-be-the-nominee-1464733898

________________________

Thanks Viva_La_Revolution .....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280205043

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
43. And now we're pushing
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:31 AM
Jun 2016

a Rupert fucking Murdock rag. You should be embarrassed but it appears the Bernie supporters can't help pushing RIGHT WING crap here on a daily basis.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
69. 100% horseshit "blanket statement."
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:04 AM
Jun 2016
"...it appears the Bernie supporters can't help pushing RIGHT WING crap here on a daily basis."

Now, if you'd said "SOME Bernie supporters can't help pushing RIGHT WING crap here on a daily basis," I'd agree with you. Take a look at a few Clinton posts while you're at it. The monkeys are flinging poo from BOTH sides of the fence.

But you didn't say that. You made a blanket statement about ALL Sanders supporters, and I'm one of them, and I don't post "RIGHT WING crap here on a daily basis," so I...call...HORSESHIT.

Even MOTHER JONES gets torn a new asshole every time content shows up on DU that is not pro-Clinton. But no, I do not post Fox, I do not post Brietbart, I post the most "sanctioned" sources on DU and if, in the Primary season where I am allowed to do so, I post something that questions Clinton's ability to hold down the job, that's the way the cookie crumbles. I know the rules. I ASKED Skinner about this on ATA, and he clarified. If and when Clinton gets the nomination, I won't post anything from any source that is harshly critical of her.

Instead of perpetuating the same tired, divisive, superior high-horse rhetoric, you may want to consider being a little more magnanimous in the way you describe "the Bernie supporters."

Or, just keep doing this. Go read Skinner's response to my ATA post. A big part of the expectations as we enter into GE is that we will get along with each other. That means you can either start toning down the rhetoric now or deal with it later.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
63. But it goes on to mention Biden slipping into her place
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:00 AM
Jun 2016

with Warren on his arm.

If that happens it will be proof positive that democracy is completely and utterly dead (as is the Dem Party) and that Warren has crossed the line if she participates in this charade.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
16. Sanders has lost
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

Nothing is going to change that. No matter what formalities you think are going to give him the nomination, he will never reverse the loss he has already been dealt.

obamanut2012

(25,906 posts)
67. No, Skinner math
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:36 AM
Jun 2016

As per the Admins, June 7 is when he is calling it, and people have through June 15 to spew their vitriol then get in line behind HRC on June 16 or stop posting on DU.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
23. No problem-- I think we may be able to just let the F.B.I.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jun 2016

do the trashing of the presumed nominee for us.

At that point, of course, she may become something less than 'presumed'...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
30. Hillary campaign: "Discredit him, destroy him and worry about party unity later."
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:55 AM
Jun 2016

Wouldn't kissing up after that seem as self-serving as it would in fact be?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
31. That's a direct quote from the Clinton campaign, eh?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:01 AM
Jun 2016

Has anyone from the Clinton campaign said anything even remotely close to that?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. According to media, yes, that did come from the Hillary campaign.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:55 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:17 AM - Edit history (1)

Not directly from the campaign to me, of course. Broch and Mook stopped calling me a few months ago. No clue why. Fickle, I guess.

Why? Doesn't that sound to you like something from a Clinton campaign? Does to me. Also seems to be an accurate description of the tactics I saw in 2008 and have been seeing in 2016. (Remind me what P.U.M.A. stood for?)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/6/1511446/-Clinton-s-Next-Strategy-Slash-and-Burn-Then-Worry-About-Party-Unity-Later

BTW, since when did the standard for posting someone about a campaign on DU become that the poster had to have heard it directly from the campaign? Cause I'm pretty sure a lot of crap that gets posted here about Bernie and his campaign did not come from either of them. In fact, a lot of it seems to have come starigh tof of a poster's ear.

ETA: my bad. The words I thought I recalled was disqualify and defeat, not discredit and destroy. But, I think the meanings are close.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4dnnjg/new_low_email_from_the_campaign/

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
59. LOL - you're being
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:03 AM
Jun 2016

thoroughly dishonest by using quotation marks which most people with a triple digit IQ KNOW you only do when someone ACTUALLY said something. And you call me desperate. That's adorable.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
45. And now quotation marks
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:33 AM
Jun 2016

for things never actually said. I see the desperation is making people do things they used to think were sleazy.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
57. They also go on and on stamping their feet repeatedlyand whining over stuff that no adult would,
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:58 AM
Jun 2016

but I hope you'll get over it eventually

You and your insults have a great day now, hear?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
58. Go ahead and use
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:01 AM
Jun 2016

sleazy tactics like shoving words into people's mouths pretending they actually said them by DISHONESTLY using quotation marks when they are nothing but a lie. It's telling us all we need to know. Toodles.

 

srobert

(81 posts)
83. Trump Presidency.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not going to vote for Trump. But looking beyond merely the next four years, it may be seen that Trump winning (or some similar event) is what it might take to persuade Democratic office holders to abandon their current neoliberal course and return to their New Deal roots. It may be that 4 years of Trump actually is the lesser evil, when compared to having Democrats double-down for the next few decades on the attitude expressed by some as, "F*** 'em! What are they gonna do? Vote Republican?"

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. Your OP should have stated that your advice is contrary to Skinner's announcement on this subject.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:52 AM
Jun 2016

Let's not try to get Bernie's supporters to behave in way that gets them banned, k?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
36. why? I ask because admins here have or will be infact muzzling us
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:13 AM
Jun 2016

we are required to support Hillary but more over Democratic Underground was a site started in 2001 after SCOTUS handed the presidency to Bush - those days ended long ago - we stopped being anything "underground" when Barack Obama was elected in 2008, we have or will become DNC aboveground, DU has a spot at the DNC convention - times and lives change -15 years ago when this site was started the admins were more youthful than they are now in the ensuing 15 years they have done what most people do-they now have families and mortgages and lifestyles to maintain and have decided to take the course they feel best insures that - not a bad thing

merrily

(45,251 posts)
37. Why what?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:16 AM
Jun 2016

Sorry. I am not understanding how your reply relates to my post, which said this:


Your OP should have stated that your advice is contrary to Skinner's announcement on this subject.

Let's not try to get Bernie's supporters to behave in way that gets them banned, k?


If someone is going to encourage Bernie supporters to post against Skinner's comments, they should at least say it's against Skinner's comments, so other Bernie supporters don't get sandbagged into getting themselves banned. If people WANT to get themselves banned or don't care, that's a different story They're adults and can decide. I just don't like inciting without disclosure.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
38. you seem concerned about Bernie supporters being banned
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:19 AM
Jun 2016

and I asked why that was as in 2 weeks we will not be allowed to support Bernie on this site and I also pointed how DU has changed over the years -this support Hillary or else prior to the convention or Bernie conceding could be seen as the cumulation of that change

merrily

(45,251 posts)
40. No, I was concerned about encouraging Bernie supporters into behavior likely to get them banned
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:22 AM
Jun 2016

without disclosing that the behavior is contrary to what Skinner said. If individual Bernie supporters know all the info and THEN don't care about being banned, that is an entirely different matter.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
44. The poster seems to be a Bernie supporter himself - he has 100+ posts in the Bernie group and isn't
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:32 AM
Jun 2016

on the blocked list I think the post was sort of snarky myself

merrily

(45,251 posts)
47. Yes, he is a Bernie supporter. So am I. That doesn't change the fact that I think disclosure should
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:37 AM
Jun 2016

have been made.

Sorry, but I am really not getting why you are opposing disclosure to Bernie supporters that taking the Op's advice literally might well get them banned.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
52. There are other threads, but every poster does not read every thread.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:48 AM
Jun 2016

My post--which was not an op, nor was it a celebration by any stretch of the imagination-- would certainly not be the first time something was posted more than once on DU. I made one very brief post to the OP that was not the least bit long or rude, yet you seemed bothered enough by it, enough to create an entire subthread over a two-line reply of mine. That does not compute for me.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
54. you deemed it to be necessary to reply to my post, why I am not sure nor am I sure once an explanat
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:51 AM
Jun 2016

was given you chose to pursue further

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. I see. The fact that you objected to my post to the OP in a way that I did not understand
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:55 AM
Jun 2016

and then we each replied to each other means I created this subthread. I see. Whatever your issue is, I don't think it was my two line reply to the OP.

Sorry, I have to go reply to attacks from Hillary supporters.

Have a great day.

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