Among those who have already voted in CA, Clinton leads 58%-41% in NBC/WSJ/Marist poll

[workinclasszero]

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/738113058199986176

[ucrdem]

1. And Bernie's lawsuit just tanked.

Looks like Cali is still Clinton country.



p.s. first met Bill at an outdoor rally in San Diego back in '92.

[Agnosticsherbet]

2. Met Bill and Hillary

at Zamorano Elementary School in 1994.

[ucrdem]

3. They got a lot done in those first 2 years.

So did Obama. Then the honeymoon was over. I wonder if Hillary will get two weeks.

[Agnosticsherbet]

13. Bill Clinton and Obama had a friendly congress for two years.

At best, we will retake the Senate.

[Luminous Animal]

16. Bernie didn't have a lawsuit. Why do you lie? It is mind boggling to me. Why? Do you lie to your

friends? Your family?

I've never understood liars.

[ucrdem]

17. Okay the lawsuit-on-behalf-of-Bernie-that-Bernie-didn't-want-to-comment-on-but-stood-to-gain-from.

Happy now?

[Luminous Animal]

18. When was he asked to comment on it?

[ucrdem]

19. Did he comment on it somewhere?

[Luminous Animal]

20. Why should he? It has nothing to do with his campaign. Nothing.

[ucrdem]

21. .

[Luminous Animal]

23. I do find it interesting that you think he might have had something to gain. Why do you believe that?

[ucrdem]

26. Ask NBC

A federal judge rejected on Wednesday a lawsuit by Bernie Sanders supporters who argued elections officials in California were confusing and robbing unaffiliated voters of the chance to vote in the state's June 7 Democratic presidential primary.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/San-Francisco-Bernie-Sanders-Voters-Sue-Claim-California-Primary-Voting-is-Too-Confusing-381514681.html

[Luminous Animal]

38. So yes. You, NBC and the judge are willing to suppress voting. Got it.

[ucrdem]

40. Baloney. Have you even looked at your voter pamphlet yet?

Here's what Padilla says in the article:

Padilla said the lawsuit was frivolous, as did the other two registrar offices. "We don't think there is any merit to the allegations," San Francisco City Attorney spokesman Matt Dorsey said before the ruling. Both counties provided documentation that they have extensively promoted "crossover voting" online, by snail mail postcards and other means. Both registrars also testified they train their workers and cover "cross-over voting in detail."

[LoverOfLiberty]

55. Sanders wanting to change the rules mid-game (AGAIN!)

does not equal voter suppression.

[jillan]

28. Every day it's a new lie around here.

[LonePirate]

43. And yet people still believe that Bernie is taking it all the way to the convention.

Anybody with any common sense knows that is not going to happen.

[JimDandy]

50. Thank you. That poster consistently lies about Bernie. Doesn't matter if it's about

the location of a Bernie rally, number or people at a Bernie rally, or who the plaintiff is in a lawsuit.

It doesn't help to alert either. Alerts on posts containing known lies often get rejected by juries, with the inevitable juror comment being to "argue the point in the thread". It's tiring to keep combating all the blatant lies that get posted. So there is no disincentive to stop the practice. Win at all cost...

[workinclasszero]

25. The judge sounded pissed they even pulled that stunt

[ucrdem]

35. That was my reaction too.

I really don't get the impression California is feeling the Bern in a good way.

[JimDandy]

49. What lawsuit of Bernies just tanked? Link?

Seniors consistently make up the majority of Permanent mail-in Ballot voters in any state and those are a large part of Clinton's demographics. Seniors also are the first ones to mail their ballots back in, so it makes sense they would comprise a higher percent of the respondents in a poll taken this early in the voting process. (May 4th-16th).

Were Bill's rallies even smaller than Hillary's are?

ETA--Hilarious: This poll was an OPT-IN Internet panel online survey!

Just checked the survey-Question 4: Yup, 64.5% of those voting for Hillary in that poll were 45 or older!! (44.28% were age 45-64; 20.5% were 65 or older.)

And to top that off, 91% of those surveyed in the CA Dem Primary part of that poll were Democrats, and only 9% were NPP (Independents) voters! Those percentages are not even in line with the percentages of registered Democrats and registered NPP voters in CA, the only 2 types of registered voters who are allowed to vote in the CA Democratic Primary: As of April 8, 2016, Democrats comprised 64.6% of those total voters and NPP voters comprised 35.4% of the total.

This poll is almost useless due to those problems with it.

[AtomicKitten]

4. Hillary's "ghost voters" and absentee ballot abuse.

http://watchdog.org/209092/hillary-ghost-voters/

http://new.grassrootinstitute.org/2010/12/the-dangers-of-mail-in-ballots/

[MohRokTah]

7. Your second link would indicate massive fraud in Oregon.

[onenote]

8. So now folks are advocating Republican voter suppression laws?

And deeper and deeper we go.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/getting-a-photo-id-so-you-can-vote-is-easy-unless-youre-poor-black-latino-or-elderly/2016/05/23/8d5474ec-20f0-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

[bettyellen]

15. So you think Oregon and Hawaii were fraudulent? That's what your link said.

[tandem5]

45. I live in California and voted for Clinton absentee so woooooooo!

[ciaobaby]

5. whoohooo - pop the cork - pour the champagne

You do know this means nothing right ?
Unless, this is the early start to the campaign to keep CA voters from voting cause its "all over" ????

[ucrdem]

6. When I phone banked on Saturday most voters I reached had already voted by mail.

The list was California registered Dems.

[ciaobaby]

11. From the Marist Poll:

The largest percent for Hillary, of those who voted early, were women (54/41) and over 45 (63/33)

Also, of the independents in the early voters, 68% were for Sanders.

You may have been calling land lines which would explain your result.

It's best to wait to celebrate till all votes are in - don't cha think ?

[ucrdem]

12. I called cell and landlines both.

Sometimes there were two, sometimes just one, but they were all identified. If there were two or more numbers, I started with the one marked "preferred" and worked down. I got through to someone on about 1 in 10 calls.

[JDPriestly]

51. If you were calling on behalf of the Hillary campaign, you may have been calling

pre-selected Hillary voters.

I have been canvassing and hardly finding any Hillary voters. It may depend on the area.

A lot of early absentee voters will be Hillary voters because they are probably older voters.

[still_one]

30. That is what I found also. I am in Northern California. Also, those who were

registered Democrats from the last election, in my banking were overwhelmingly going for Hillary

[ucrdem]

39. Mine too.

I reached exactly one Bernie voter (I think) in 3 hours. Yeah I think they were registered Dems who'd voted in the last election. I left the lists there but I'm pretty sure that what they said on the bottom.

[still_one]

41. I hope our results are representative state wide. Thanks

[workinclasszero]

27. Hey no worries. Hillary wins the nod in NJ before the Cali polls close

on the 7th

[Trenzalore]

9. The exit poll conspiracy theories will run strong next week nt.

[msongs]

14. but there was massive cheating in EVERY primary and caucus even where Bernie won!!! nt

[jillan]

29. There will be no exit polls from Cali. Try to keep up.

[Demsrule86]

34. Actually a voting group

Integrity or something will do exit polls.

[LonePirate]

44. Exit poll conspiracies can exist without any exit polls.

Such as the media being in the tank for Hillary as the reason they canceled the exit polls - to make it easier to rig the results in her favor.

[workinclasszero]

31. If Sanders loses..

It will be because of some grand conspiracy no doubt.

Ain't it always the same when Sanders loses? SMH

[Viva_La_Revolution]

10. according to those polled, new voters disagree

"Meanwhile, Sanders leads among first-time participants (72 percent to 28 percent), independents (68 percent to 26 percent), those younger than 45 (66 percent to 30 percent), men (54 percent to 43 percent) and Latinos (49 percent to 46 percent)."

[anotherproletariat]

22. Early votes skew toward Hillary because those are the organized and responsible people, but

I'm still hopeful that she'll pull it out on Tuesday!

[still_one]

36. It is more than early voters. At least in my call banking, voters who were registered

Democrats as of the last election were going big time for Hillary, so I think it will come down to existing registered Democrats verses the newly registered, and I think the spread will be within 10 points.

[basselope]

24. LMAO!!!

[Demsrule86]

32. No wonder he wanted the ballots tossed out

Oh well, I hope he loses so big he finally has to quit and give us some peace in order to start the General.

[workinclasszero]

33. You got it!

I cant wait till the 7th.

[still_one]

37. I think it won't be a big win for anyone.

[amborin]

42. meaningless; her main demographic is the one that votes early: white, affluent, older

[bvf]

52. Quit bringing facts into this.

It ruins the narrative

[jfern]

46. Bernie always does better with later voters

And I expect him to landslide the provisional voters who will be counted last.

[upaloopa]

47. Like me. We are older and we vote in every election.

[Number23]

48. Really??!! WOW!

That's excellent news!

[JimDandy]

53. Actually, it's practically useless:

Seniors consistently make up the majority of Permanent mail-in Ballot voters in any state and those are a large part of Clinton's demographics. Seniors also are the first ones to mail their ballots back in, so it makes sense they would comprise a higher percent of the respondents in a poll taken this early in the voting process. (May 4th-16th).

And this is hilarious: This poll was taken from an online survey of an OPT-IN Internet panel! In other words, self-selected respondents.

Calculations from survey Question 4 show that 64.5% of those voting for Hillary in that poll were age 45 or older!! (44.28% were age 45-64; 20.5% were 65 or older.)

And to top that off, 91% of those surveyed in the CA Dem Primary part of that poll were Democrats, and only 9% were NPP (Independents) voters! Those percentages are not even in line with the percentages of registered Democrats and registered NPP voters in CA, the only 2 types of registered voters who are allowed to vote in the CA Democratic Primary: As of April 8, 2016, Democrats comprised 64.6% of those total voters and NPP voters comprised 35.4% of the total.

This poll is almost useless due to those problems with it.

But you hold on to your hopes, now, ya hear.

[Number23]

58. You can scream that a 17% lead with actual VOTERS not screamers at a rally is "practically useless"

all day long and for as as long as you like.

It has no bearing on reality, is a complete waste of your time, and makes you look incredibly desperate and truth adverse. And we wouldn't want that, now would we??

[B Calm]

54. If it is a large turnout, Bernie wins! It's a rare day when California has the chance of selecting

the nominee. That said, I look for a huge turnout.

[oasis]

56. Kick

[DCBob]

57. That's a very good sign for a Hillary win.

[Peacetrain]

59. wow..that is awesome!!