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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:34 AM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders’s ‘factually incorrect’ delegate math

Washington Post: Fact Checker

In complaining about superdelegates, Sanders is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. If not for the “absurd” superdelegate system, Sanders’s presidential hopes would firmly die on June 7.

Thus Sanders is misleading his supporters when he suggests it is “factually incorrect” for the media to crown Clinton the presumptive nominee on June 7. In a narrow technical sense, the nominee is not chosen until the convention. But, barring some miracle, on June 7, Sanders will have lost the race for both pledged delegates and superdelegates. That leaves him with no hope to claim the nomination–unless he wants to overturn the will of the voters. But respecting the will of the voters was the original reason he complained about the superdelegate system in the first place.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
2. It is the many occurrences of electoral malfeasance like the one in the article below
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jun 2016

that not just ignored the will of the people it robbed of their vote.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/new-york-primary-voter-purge


MotherJones

The Story of the Great Brooklyn Voter Purge Keeps Getting Weirder
Some 120,000 people couldn't vote. What happened?

AJ VICENS APR. 22, 2016 4:52 PM

"A woman at a protest at the Board of Elections in Brooklyn before the primary Mark Apollo/Zuma
The first head has rolled after more than 100,000 voters were mistakenly purged from the Brooklyn voter rolls ahead of this week's New York primary, which handed Hillary Clinton a much-needed win over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. Diane Haslett-Rudiano, the chief clerk of the New York Board of Elections, was suspended "without pay, effective immediately, pending an internal investigation into the administration of the voter rolls in the Borough of Brooklyn," the agency said in a statement, according to the New York Daily News.

Anonymous city elections officials said Haslett-Rudiano, who was in charge of the city's Republican voter rolls, had been "scapegoated," according to the New York Post. "It sounds like they cut a deal to make the Republican the scapegoat and protect Betty Ann," an anonymous Democratic elected official from Brooklyn told the Post, referring to Betty Ann Canizio, who was in charge of the Democratic voter rolls.

On the day of the primary, New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio, a Clinton supporter, said he'd heard reports of the "purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting lists." He said, "The perception that numerous voters may have been disenfranchised undermines the integrity of the entire electoral process."


The voter purge was just one of several problems with the primary throughout the city. Voters also reported long lines, poll locations that didn't open, and, in one case, an elections worker sleeping on the job.

According to the Daily News, Haslett-Rudiano was in charge of maintaining accurate voter registration lists, a job that includes updating party registration information and removing the names of people who've died or moved. That process had fallen six months to a year behind schedule, according to WNYC, which reported the day before the primary that 60,000 Democrats had been removed from the polls in Brooklyn. That number later doubled after the Board of Elections followed up on the WNYC story.

New York City Comptroller Scott M. Stringer has opened an investigation into the matter, and New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced that his office had received more than 1,000 complaints about the election and would also look into "alleged improprieties" by the New York City Board of Elections. Scheiderman's statement noted that he would expand his investigation to other areas of the state if warranted. On Friday, an official in Schneiderman's press office told Mother Jones that there had been reports of issues in other parts of the state, but that for now the investigation was limited to the New York City area.

"Voting is the cornerstone of our democracy, and if any New Yorker was illegally prevented from voting, I will do everything in my power to make their vote count and ensure that it never happens again," Schneiderman said.

According to the Daily News, Haslett-Rudiano skipped a step in the process of purging people from the list, which led to some people being improperly removed. Many voters reported being registered as Democrats, only to find that their affiliation had been changed from Democrat to unaffiliated. That meant they couldn't vote in New York's closed primary election, which requires an official registration with one of the major parties."

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that hurt Sanders, all evidence indicates
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jun 2016

it hurt Clinton if anyone

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Then why isn't Sanders doing anything about that?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

There are problems in every election. In every precinct, even. The process can always be improved but it will never be perfect.
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JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
8. "The will of the voters" means superdelegates in each state
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:04 AM
Jun 2016

should respect the will of their constituents and vote for the candidate their constituents voted for.

Simple.

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joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
13. When he got the majority of delegates.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:21 AM
Jun 2016

With the superdelegates.

Would be terrible not to do it the same way they did for him since it's going to be quite historical on the scheme of things.

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