2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Sanders isn't allowed to speak at convention his 2,000 delegates should walk out and join
tens of thousands of Bernie supporters in the streets demanding that the convention officialdom let Bernie be heard.That plan might force them to behave democratically and let Bernie speak.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Too fuckin' funny. You know what the parent does, right? Ignore and walk away, get on with life. No attention at all. This is really what you want Sanders to degrade himself to? Threatening and blackmailing to get his way, because he is so fuckin special or something.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)No, really, given Clinton's corporate conservatism, I really think you do.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)again signifies the privileged and entitlement of a tantrum.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)especially when millions are behind it.
Second grade mentality.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)place and the convention is not about him and his political statement. Or a tantrum if he does not get his way.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Someone's going to say, "Oh, hey, there's a bunch of people in FDR Park across Broad Street from the convention, I guess we better re-arrange the speaking schedule"?
This is magical thinking.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Isn't that right.
And I don't think the DLC would like to see a convention walkout and demonstration of tens of thousands of people protesting Wall Street and corporate funding and control of the convention covered live by all the mass media and the internet.
Excluding Sanders and keeping a muzzle on him certainly would not result in Democratic election "unity" if Clinton captures the nomination.
Don't you agree.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Here's a bunch of people who want to make abortion illegal:
They do it every year:
I personally don't give a shit how many people they can assemble for a protest. Do you?
Is there some magic number of people who can assemble in a street that hits the threshold of "we better do what they say?"
HubertHeaver
(2,520 posts)"Lets bolt the party. They'll come beg us to return."
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...to Make it fair, Hillary should have even better prime speaker slot since she has more delegates, before the votes are formally cast.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)for him to give his stump speech, just a couple of days before Hillary gives her acceptance speech.
So it depends on weather or not he concedes. If he come to unify the party against Trump, he will be more than welcomed
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)There will no campaigning at the convention.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Freudian slip!
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)A speaking position at the convention is earn by respect of our rules
Arkansas Granny
(31,505 posts)the vote is taken? I don't know what the protocol is.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)to unite after the nominee.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)It depends upon how much they really desire unity against Trump if the candidate nominated is likely to be either Bernie or Clinton.
LonePirate
(13,407 posts)That has not happened in a very, very long time. It won't be happening this year, either. O'Malley and Sanders will both be allowed to address the convention in prime time if they wish to do so.
Where are people coming up with this crazy conspiratorial garbage - and it is garbage - that Bernie won't be allowed to speak at the convention? Not only that, but why are people so damn stupid and gullible to believe such nonsense?
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)tandem5
(2,072 posts)Sanders insists that we should not work within a system that's broken yet by his own admission he has chosen to use the resources of the Democratic party because it was the only way to be an effective candidate.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)of voters and not the Wall Street tycoons and corporate executives funding the other candidate.
And these same fat cats are funding the resources of the Democratic Party convention!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)growing and can easily resort to currently sick and tired and back to usual.
You don't beat people into actively promoting a message or a product.
Oh, and he was welcomed into the party as a foil for HRH. No one else had the cojones, i.e. Establishment Democrats. Just that it got out of hand when people finally listened, took note, and agreed with him and his "same old, same old" speech.
There is no such thing in HillarySpeak. It writes itself on a daily, focus group, basis.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)He brings in large crowds so why does he need the forum of the convention when that type politics is what he's rallying against?
It is supposed to be a no compromise approach, but speaking at the convention, influencing the party platform to bring about slow incremental change? -- It's a cop out of the highest order.
What's next? Will he stump for Hillary Clinton? If his message is screw the establishment then it should be SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, we answer to nobody but ourselves and we are going to start our own party and exact real change.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)OP is an epic straw man.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)recapping where Bernie's manager said they were planning to use his speaking slot to make the case to the superdelegates to flip to him the night before the final vote. I said if they don't rule that out, he shouldn't be allowed to speak.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)brush
(53,726 posts)Of course Sanders is going to speak, probably to nominate Clinton by acclamation as she did for Obama in '08.
It's time to stop fighting the Democratic "establishment", as Sanders has called himself doing for the last several weeks, and began fighting the real enemy Trump and the repugs.