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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Wins Three Pinocchios: Bernie Sanders’s ‘factually incorrect’ delegate math[/
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Bernie Sanderss factually incorrect delegate math
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/02/bernie-sanderss-factually-incorrect-delegate-math/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b
By Glenn Kessler
June 2 at 3:00 AM
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders criticized the Democratic party's nomination process and superdelegates during a rally in Santa Cruz, Calif., on May 31. He blasted reports that rival Hillary Clinton had clinched the nomination as "factually incorrect." (AP)
Literally eight months before the first ballot was cast in Iowa, she had almost all of the superdelegates on board. That is an absurd system. Now, on Tuesday night, on the 7th, you are going to hear from media saying that Hillary Clinton has received 80 or 90 delegates from New Jersey and other states the nominating process is over, Secretary Clinton has won. That is factually incorrect. That is just not factually correct.
Sen. Bernie Sanders, speech in Santa Cruz, Calif., May 31
Sanders has complained regularly about the absurd system used in the Democratic Party presidential nomination process .......................................
Hillary Clinton is on track to win a majority of the pledged delegates, almost certainly by June 7. But because superdelegates make up 15 percent of the total delegate pool, neither Clinton nor Sanders can obtain the 2,383 delegates needed to clinch the nomination without the support of superdelegates...............................
Misleading timeline
Sanders also offers a misleading timeline about Clintons accumulation of superdelegates.
What are superdelegates?
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Neither statement is factually correct.....................
The Sanders campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
The Pinocchio Test
In complaining about superdelegates, Sanders is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. If not for the absurd superdelegate system, Sanderss presidential hopes would firmly die on June 7.
Thus Sanders is misleading his supporters when he suggests it is factually incorrect for the media to crown Clinton the presumptive nominee on June 7. In a narrow technical sense, the nominee is not chosen until the convention. But, barring some miracle, on June 7, Sanders will have lost the race for both pledged delegates and superdelegates. That leaves him with no hope to claim the nominationunless he wants to overturn the will of the voters. But respecting the will of the voters was the original reason he complained about the superdelegate system in the first place.
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Bernie Wins Three Pinocchios: Bernie Sanders’s ‘factually incorrect’ delegate math[/ (Original Post)
riversedge
Jun 2016
OP
Sanders is up to about 25 Pinocchios, for a man running on integrity, he isn't doing well.
seabeyond
Jun 2016
#13
In complaining about superdelegates, Sanders is trying to have his cake and eat it, too.
LiberalFighter
Jun 2016
#16
k8conant
(3,030 posts)1. Typical WaPo media spin
Response to riversedge (Original post)
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Skwmom
(12,685 posts)3. From the Amazon Bozo who exploits his workers. What a surprise!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)4. KICK
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)5. Hate the message, attack the messenger.
This is getting tiring.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)6. Let's see, using #BernieMath, that's 9 Pinocchios
But they don't count until Jiminy Cricket gives a little whistle . . .
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)11. If your heart is in your dream . . .
No attack is too extreme . . .
riversedge
(70,182 posts)15. Chuckle. Good one.
Mr Maru
(216 posts)7. Denial! Dismissal! You're wrong!
I didn't want to feel out of place.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)8. Pretty sick of the Sander whining about supers. nt
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)10. k&r
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)13. Sanders is up to about 25 Pinocchios, for a man running on integrity, he isn't doing well.
Number23
(24,544 posts)14. K&R
LiberalFighter
(50,856 posts)16. In complaining about superdelegates, Sanders is trying to have his cake and eat it, too.
That leaves him with no hope to claim the nominationunless he wants to overturn the will of the voters. But respecting the will of the voters was the original reason he complained about the superdelegate system in the first place.
riversedge
(70,182 posts)17. REC