Sanders Supporters Secure Rally Permit for 30,000 Near Democratic Convention in Philadelphia!

[imagine2015]

Wall Street Journal
Washington Wire
| Election 2016
Sanders Supporters Secure Rally Permit Near Democratic Convention in Philadelphia

Philadelphia has approved four demonstration permits in support of Sen. Bernie Sanders at the July Democratic National Convention — including a large rally planned near the convention’s epicenter.

One of the permits is for an event consisting of four days of all-day rallies at FDR Park in support of Mr. Sanders. The city said it expects 30,000 participants, and organizers said in an interview they hope turnout will be much higher.

The park is adjacent to the Wells Fargo Center, where many of the Democratic National Convention events will be held — raising the possibility of a large demonstration in support of Mr. Sanders just steps away from where delegates will officially select the Democratic nominee.

The city has also granted permits to three smaller demonstrations at Thomas Paine Plaza, a few miles from the Wells Fargo Center. The city says it expects 2,000 to 3,000 participants at those events.

The events — which are being organized independent of campaign by supporters of Mr. Sanders — aim to call attention to support the Vermont Senator has received throughout the primary process and push for long-term changes in the way that the Democratic Party nominates candidates.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/20/sanders-supporters-secure-rally-permit-near-democratic-convention-in-philadelphia/

[chillfactor]

1. oh..that is just "great"...

another Chicago convention in the works.

[imagine2015]

13. No not at all. Don't try and scare people in order to reduce participation.

That's what I expect some opponents of Bernie Sanders will try to do.

Don't fall for any scare propaganda tactics or talking points.

[jberryhill]

2. "being organized independent of campaign by supporters of Mr. Sanders"

Oh joy.

Who, specifically, might these people be, and what experience do they have in staging mass events?

[brooklynite]

3. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, one of the permits has been transferred to Sanders

[tonyt53]

6. Bill Taylor, a Sanders supporter, got the permits initially. He could hand them off after psperwork

[tonyt53]

7. NONE. They think that screaming and pushing and acting like they are going to throw chairs works

[libdem4life]

62. Isn't this getting a bit moldy and old? I mean, really.

Surely there are others. Making fun of people is so classy. Not.

[Txbluedog]

4. That's a gamble his supporters are taking

If the tens of thousands don't show up (esp if Bernie has already suspended) they will look like fringe nutters

[SpareribSP]

51. I doubt he'll suspend at this point

That's also only a bit more than an everyday Bernie rally.

[Blue Idaho]

53. Who pays the bills?

Bernie is just about out of money.

[jillan]

59. That is such bullshit. Bernie is funded by the people. He doesn't need to do any fundraisers, all he

has to do is send out an email and he will receive millions over nite.

Bernie will never run out of money.

[brooklynite]

68. Tell , how much did Sanders raise in May?

His campaign has been conspicuously silent. In past months, they got their numbers out early.

[tonyt53]

5. And what will they do when they come face to face with thousands of building tradesmen?

They are supporting Hillary. Bernie-ites screaming won't help them then. Yes, the union building trades, some of Hillary's strongest supporters, and representing millions of working men and women, are planning on being in Philly in force.

[frylock]

9. Is this a threat of violence?

[2banon]

29. that's how it reads to me...

wonder why the poster is attempting to promote violence by the Trades rank and file?

[tonyt53]

31. Not even remotely. Just a notice that screaming, pushing and threats of chair throwing won't work

Can you guarantee that won't happen?

[frylock]

32. Ah, it's "threats" of chair throwing now.

[imagine2015]

14. They will talk to the about the issues they are concerned about. Jobs, wages, outsourcing, etc.,

There will also be thousands of union members who support Bernie that will be demonstrating. They will take the lead in talking to their brothers and sisters in the building trades unions, if you don't mind.

They are all members of the AFL-CIO.

You didn't know that?

[tonyt53]

18. Uh, very damned few AFL-CIO unions are supporting Bernie.

Most unions that aren't, are not part of the AFL-CIO. Not all unions are, like the Teamsters. The strongest supporters of Hillary in the unions ARE the building trades. They have given millions to her campaign. Millions. Better check her 20 highest contributors. They do plan on having a presence in Philly, and for Bernie's supporters it could get ugly really fast.

[2banon]

26. ohh, reads like a threat is being promoted here..

you actually expecting AFL-CIO rank and file are going to get rough with Bernie supporters, do ya?

[tonyt53]

34. Nope, not at all. Just going to not allow screaming Bernie-ites to bully them.

Screaming, yelling and threats of throwing chairs won't work in Philly. And again, Bernie has very little union support, especially form within the AFL-CIO.

[2banon]

37. I think you'd better learn to stop promoting fabrications here, the throwing chair thing

has been compltely debunked quite a long time ago.

And Corrupt Union Bosses ain't the same as Rank and File in any union.

[tonyt53]

45. God gosh fella, I said "threats", and that is clearly what it was.

Also, that corrupt union bosses thing is an insult to the unionized working men and women of this country. Opinions are like assholes, some just stink more than others. You can have your opinion, but when you start insulting union men and women, you are nothing but a Republican as you have no idea what you are talking about and are just repeating talking points of the GOP. but I get it now, you looked at those largest contributors to Hillary's campaign and are now experiencing extreme butt-hurt. Get used to disappointment because that is all Bernie has to offer.

[2banon]

33. you're of course referring to Bosses, rank and file pressured by bosses to vote Hillary is not

the same as actually "supporting" HRC.

just so you know.

[tonyt53]

41. When you refer to "bosses" it is clear that you get your info from the GOP

Those "bosses" references are a crying rally for the right-to-work crowd and Koch's and such. Sad attempt to make a connection there. The building trades learned under Reagan, then Bush I and then Bush II, that work goes away during those presidencies. Nixon and Eisenhower actually supported unions. They learned the hard way. Under Obama, heavy construction especially has grown and wages are up. They know who can win in November and that is who they are supporting. So, before you toss out that "bosses" nonsense, you might want to reconsider. That "bosses" reference is a direct insult to unionized working men and women. Just so you know.

[2banon]

46. Don't even go there.. best just drop it now.

As a former dues paying member of the SEIU, I witnessed stuff that would make those right wing memes seem like child's tattle and play.

I have never engaged in discussing Union shop stuff on line and I'm not about to go any further now.

Best just to drop it for all concerned. and enough with promoting threats of violence by the way.. yes another right wing meme on full display.

[msanthrope]

22. forget the Tradesman... The neighborhoods around there....nt

[KoKo]

67. Recommend!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Bravo. A convention rather than the usual infomercial.

[bkkyosemite]

10. I think it's a great idea!

[felix_numinous]

11. Good they got a permit

very good news

[rhett o rick]

12. Sooner or later the Democratic Party Elite might get the idea that there are a lot

of people that don't like the current process where they are being excluded. But the hubris and arrogance of the Democratic Party Elite are too greedy to take the interests of the People seriously. But the crowds will get larger and larger.

And the minions that feel comfortable siding with the greedy corporatists don't understand the independence of the People's Progressive Movement. It's so much easier to blindly follow your chosen Authoritarian leader.

[tonyt53]

15. At this time, there are over 3 million more people that do like the process.

Pep rallies mean nothing either.

[2banon]

23. You can't say they "Like" the existing process when there are no other options

available except to stay home.

A bit of intellectual honesty please.

[tonyt53]

25. Uh, they could have already done that, but made the decision not to.

That has happened 3 million more times than for Bernie. A bit of facing facts please. And they never cried about it when Hillary lost.

[2banon]

43. "A bit of facing facts please."

[imagine2015]

16. Ignore the anti-Bernie Sanders scare propaganda. For factual information about rally plans go to:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512117755

[stevenleser]

17. For this reason alone, he should be denied any role at the convention.

I hope the DNC and the Hillary folks are paying attention.

[msanthrope]

20. FDR. with a 30k limit is a tightly controlled event away from the Wells fargo.

[stevenleser]

21. Good to know. The article makes it seem right next to the building.

Thanks.

[msanthrope]

30. It's nowhere near the building... The parking lots plus major roads block it off from the Wells Farg

The protesters won't be able to block access to the convention center if that's what they're hoping. The surrounding neighborhood is completely impossible to park in... old school Italian neighborhood where triple parking is the norm.... expect local Subway to be tightly controlled

[840high]

54. awwshutup

[2banon]

19. Whoot! Whoot!

[Uncle Joe]

24. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, imagine2015.

[azurnoir]

27. good

[itsrobert]

28. Ron Paul tactics

nice

[msanthrope]

35. It's Occupy Philly again..... which means the Larouchies will get the prime spots. nt

[imagine2015]

38. Really? I didn't know that 40,000+ progressives participated in the Occupy Philly demo. Links?

You're just trying to discourage people from going.

Will you be red-baiting organizers next?

True progressives and liberals don't fall for that kind of propaganda but feel free to spread it if that's your game.

[msanthrope]

42. Dude.....if the permit is for 30k, that's all that will be funneled in.

[imagine2015]

49. so they'll be doing a body count! Have you ever participated in a truly massive demonstration?

Don't worry about it. If 50,000 or 100,000 or 200,000 show up near the convention location we'll find space for them.

Want to help?

[imagine2015]

36. Don't fall for the right-wing anti-Bernie and anti-Democracy propaganda predicting violence.

That's the kind of crap one might expect from Donald Trump and other right-wing agitators.

Check out this video:

Peaceful Demonstration in Philly is MANDATORY - Here's Why

On July 24th-28th Come to Philadelphia to rally for the future of our Democracy!

[Skink]

39. Free beer would be good.

[libdem4life]

40. Love it. Rallies: Bad.

Six figure secret speeches: Good

Your democracy at work

[tk2kewl]

44. I'll see you in FDR Park!

[ProgressiveEconomist]

47. Grant Park 1968 all over again?

Eugene McCarthy did NOTHING to restrain his "anti-establishment" supporters, and NEVER endorsed the first-ballot Democratic Party nominee. Seeing on TV multiple riots outside the Chicago Hilton, voters allowed Republicans to take over the White House in what should have been a routine transfer of power from one Democratic President to another.

Is history repeating itself? Will Democrats EVER learn, even after ushering in Richard Nixon completely unnecessarily in 1968?

[imagine2015]

48. So you're blaming the progressive protestors! That's a big re-write of history.

The right-wing anti-Democratic Daley machine turned his almost lilly-white police force lose in what was officially proclaimed a "police riot" by a commission organized to investigate the protests.

Did you not know that or are you prepared to justify Daley's actions?

Read the Walker Report.

1968
December 1

Walker Report Finds “Police Riot” at Democratic Party Convention

]The special commission appointed to investigate the protests at the 1968 Democratic Party Convention (see August 28, 1968), known as the Walker Report, issued its official report on this day. The report characterized the violent events as a “police riot” directed at protesters.

The Walker Report: “The nature of the [police response] response was unrestrained and indiscriminate police violence on many occasions, particularly at night. That violence was made all the more shocking by the fact that it was often inflicted upon persons who had broken no law, disobeyed no order, made no threat. These included peaceful demonstrators, onlookers, and large numbers of residents who were simply passing through, or happened to live in, the areas where confrontations were occurring.”

Read: Daniel Walker, Rights in Conflict: The Walker Report (1968)

Rights in Conflict: Convention Week in Chicago, 8/25-29/1968: A Report

by Daniel Walker, Max Frankel (introduction)

The violent confrontation of demonstrators & police in the parks & streets of Chicago during the week of the Democratic National Convention of 1968: A report submitted by Daniel Walker, director of the Chicago Study Team, to the National Commission on the Causes & Prevention of Violence.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

50. Whoever was the proximate

cause, the presence of thousands of "anti-establishment" sore losers outside a Democratic Party convention venue erupted in predictable violence. And what should have been a cakewalk for a first-ballot Democratic Party nominee while a Democrat controlled the White House resulted in eight unnecrssary years of rule by Richard Nixon.

Are you willing to risk eight years of Trump? Regardless who gets blamed for violence, thousands of "anti-establishment demonstrators" create
powderkegs outside Democratic Party Presidential conventions, with predictable risks for our country. They play directly into Republican hands.

"Ain't start none, won't be none."

[imagine2015]

66. That's the talking point used by opponents of the Bill of Rights back in 1968.

You were not there.

I was.

It was a police riot.

Cops even entered convention hotels to beat up delegates who supported Eugene McCarthy and delegates were attacked on the convention floor!

Read the official government report if you want to know the truth.

Or you can simply parrot the anti-democratic bull shit that you picked up from who knows where or what

Don't give lectures on a subject you clearly are unfamiliar with. In this case, what really happened in Chicago in 1968.

Have you even heard of the Walker Report much less read it?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

65. Mayor Daley(D) did a lot to restrain the "anti-establishment" supporters.

With the blessing of the convention.

[Trust Buster]

52. It will make for good practice. Sanders supporters need to get used to the idea of being on the

outside, looking in with their noses pressed against the windows.........LOL

[jillan]

60. No worries - we will never be looking in at the Hillary administration. Instead

we will be watching her every move.

No matter what happens this election, we are not going away.

[Lord Magus]

55. There's not going to be anything even vaguely close to 30,000 people.

I'd be surprised if they got 300.

[imagine2015]

63. Lord Magus would be surprised if Bernie "got over 300" at the rallies and over 100 delegates!

Have you been following the election at all my Lord Magus?

[Lord Magus]

69. You think that he'll get thousands at a rally AFTER THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER?

And what delegates are you talking about? There aren't going to be more delegates to win in July. The convention is not overtime.

[jillan]

58. Oh NOES!! The Democratic Convention may actually see some democracy in action.

[imagine2015]

70. Oh we can't have that! Democracy is mob rule!

[dreamnightwind]

61. This is great!

I was afraid all of the events would be several miles away, and what's the point of that?

There's also this event, to be held the prior week, in D.C.:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512119071

Sanders movement will go on as ‘People’s summit’ is planned
DAVID LIGHTMAN
McClatchy DC

The “People’s Summit” will run from June 17 to 19. The final Democratic primary, to be held in the District of Columbia, is June 14.

The event is a “declaration of independence from establishment politics” that’ll address the current “repture in the political fabric of this country,” said RoseAnn DeMoro, National Nurses United Executive Director. The group has endorsed Sanders and is a lead summit sponsor.

... Sanders backers vow to keep up his fight, and are not conceding defeat. Charles Idelson, spokesman for National Nurses United, said Sanders will win. The independent senator from Vermont hopes to convince “superdelegates,” party officials who are not bound by state results, to swing to Sanders.

The Sanders forces have other goals, notably to advance an agenda they’ve been pushing for years. They’ll make a push at Democratic platform hearings and deliberations, which begin next week.

“We must build a movement that involve millions in the long term struggle to radically reshape our political and economic systems that benefit big corporations and the rich while devastating working families and the poor, said David Hatch of Reclaim Chicago., which fights against big money in politics.

And, he noted, “We are coming together to ensure this movement flourishes beyond the conventions, the election and the inauguration.”

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

64. I hope at least 100,000 show up. K&R

[beachbumbob]

71. Sanders intimidation doesn't and will not work now or ever...

Neither will it be tolerated by his supporters....my wish is to sanders dragged off in handcuffs...charged and convicted...he can spend the remaining years in prison...and that is what will happen if any thing happens at all in the streets of philly...