Super Delegates

[Jack Bone]

don't vote until Monday, July 25th 2016

52 days away.

Carry on...

[Renew Deal]

1. Good luck with that

http://huffpost.com/us/entry/us_574f78ece4b0ed593f134465

[Zynx]

2. Technically speaking, no delegates vote until then.

[azurnoir]

4. when I clicked your link I got this with the 404 message

[rock]

5. Their votes are not recorded till then

The pledged delegates are pledged on the primary. The super delegates may declare any time they want. The Convention is for the purpose of making it official by recording it. Your view is naive.

[Zynx]

8. I'm actually making the argument the other way around.

I think virtually all of those super delegate votes Hillary has are as locked in as her pledged delegates.

[rock]

16. That is correct

Both types are bound by rules (not laws). The price they pay for not following the protocol is political. As most of the delegate are practicing politicians, they are extremely cautious about how they fulfill their duty.

[NanceGreggs]

3. So we're all to sit around ...

... until then, and pretend that the SDs are going to hand the nomination to the loser?

[Jack Bone]

9. No

We're supposed to go out and register people to vote. Work for the democratic candidates on your local, state and national ballot in the Fall. It's time for a Political Revolution! We are the ones that we've been waiting for!!

[Skink]

6. Bernie could speak infront of another 500,000 to a million people with that much time

As he continues to make a very solid case that the SD'S switch.

[Tarc]

7. The superdelegates that have already endorsed Hillary will be counted on June 7th

and will put her over 2,383. Probably before the California polls even close.

[Jack Bone]

10. Now yer just makin' stuff up...nt

[Tarc]

11. This is how it always works, perhaps you haven't noticed?

2008:

Obama: I will be the Democratic nominee

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In what he called a "defining moment for our nation," Sen. Barack Obama on Tuesday became the first African-American to head the ticket of a major political party.

Obama's steady stream of superdelegate endorsements, combined with the delegates he received from Tuesday's primaries, put him past the 2,118 threshold, CNN projects.

2004

Survey: Kerry has delegates for nomination

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry has amassed enough delegates to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination, according to a CNN survey.

Kerry's sweep of Tuesday's presidential primaries in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas left him just 27 delegate votes shy of securing his party's official nod. But additional support since then from Democratic Party officials and officeholders known as superdelegates has boosted Kerry to at least the 2,162 delegate votes he needs at the Democratic National Convention this summer in Boston.

This is the "presumptive nominee" stage, when pledged delegates won + superdelegates who have publicly endorsed puts the candidate over the threshold.

[Jack Bone]

12. Oh I've noticed..in both of your instances

The candidate trailing was basically the same as the victor.

2008 Obama DLC---Clinton DLC

2004 Kerry DLC----Edwards DLC

It's like 2 shriners vying for the position of "head of the shriners" and they didn't contest the convention.

This year,

Clinton DLC----Sanders FDR Democrat.

He plans to contest the convention and has publicly said so on numerous occasions.

This year it's different....this year it matters!

[Tarc]

13. None of that changes the fact that most will declare Hillary the presumptive nominee on the 6/7/2016

He can "contest" the convention in much the same way I can "contest" the state liquor store not selling me the winning lotto ticket the other night.

[Jack Bone]

15. Thanx for making my point.

You don't know what the lotto numbers will be, until they draw them...just like these super delegates...they can say whatever the hell they want...until they VOTE...

And that happens on Monday, July 25th 2016.....not before.

Carry on

[Tarc]

18. The superdelegates will support the pledged delegate leader, just as they have done in the past

You can wish all you want to for that 0.001% chance to come up roses, but the rest of us prefer a reality-based existence.

[Jack Bone]

20. And the reality is that the super delegates

Don't vote until Monday, July 25th 2016.

Until then, unless Sen Sanders concedes ( like they've done in the past...that you so fervently refer to) it's all conjecture.

Facts are facts...unless you choose to ignore reality.

Carry on

[Tarc]

21. Whatever helps you sleep at night, bro. :)

Hillary Clinton will the presumptive nominee, by virtue of pledged delegates + superdelegate endorsements, come June 7th. You have zero power to change that reality.

By all means keep though, I need something to do while I

[Lord Magus]

29. It makes no difference if he "plans to contest the convention" because it doesn't work that way.

A contested convention means that it goes to multiple ballots. Hillary will win easily on the first ballot. No contested convention will happen, period.

[Buzz cook]

14. The same as pledged delegates

You seem to be under a misapprehension. During the primary we select delegates, they don't vote till the convention.

I understand why you're confused. There's way too much chatter about the process with very few facts.

[anotherproletariat]

17. Just for the record, would you be willing to accept that Hillary is the presumptive nominee

if Sanders drops out before the convention?

[Jack Bone]

19. Yeah...If Sen. Sanders decides not to contest the convention

Of course I'll support her, in yet another lesser of two evils election.

But I got to vote FOR Obama twice...So I can do the "hold my nose and vote" again, although I'd like to vote FOR someone rather than against anyone....we'll see!

[grossproffit]

22. Many HRC supporters would be willing to do the same...vote for the lesser of two evils.

If Bernie were the nominee.

[Jack Bone]

23. Then again...

Maybe Hillary can accept the notion that the "Too Big To Fail" corporations need to be downsized, and that our nation is "stronger together" when there's competition in the marketplace and Monopoly is just a board game from Milton Bradley. Then, maybe she can give me reason to vote FOR her, instead of voting AGAINST Trump.

[onenote]

24. neither do pledged delegates

but that doesn't mean we don't know what the outcome will be before that.

[brooklynite]

25. Super Delegates

...can freely express their opinion before they vote...just like you and I can. You didn't change your mind. Neither did I. Neither will they.

[Jack Bone]

26. An opinion isn't a vote. nt

[Voice for Peace]

27. aaaand one more

a jack bone

[Jack Bone]

28. Thank you!!