Here is a question about something Bernie said about my county,

[upaloopa]

Santa Barbara county.

He talked about all the wealth in Santa Barbara then said that our county was fourth in the state with our poverty level.

Politically Santa Barbara county has been divided north and south. The south is were the wealthy live along the coast and they tend to be Democrats. The notth has the agriculture and oil and tends to be Republican.

Poverty is in the north because of immigrants.

We are doing a lot to provide services for the poor but the income distribution here is based on geography mostly.

Coastal south and industrial north. I think Bernie needs to recognize that when he talks about the income differences.

Does Bernie make any distinction as to why there is income inequality?

[notadmblnd]

1. And the question is?

Cause I don't see it anywhere in your post.

[upaloopa]

10. Added it

[riversedge]

2. Thanks for the information.

[Android3.14]

3. Can't help but notice there was no question in your question

So without the question in your OP, what I take from this is that you got yours, so screw your neighbors.

I think you need to recognize that "Doing a lot" sounds like a pitiful excuse.

[Juicy_Bellows]

4. To be fair, poverty is not due to immigrants but to those employers exploiting them.

Sanders is right on this issue, it's systemic and it needs to be addressed.

Also, beware the Mothman.

[merrily]

5. Didn't see a question, but the answer is no doubt that Bernie is AWFUL.

I'm glad DUers never tire out of pointing that out, no matter how speciously.

Hell, the summina may even have dozed off (I think) during a ball game. How could he? YUCK! SCUM!

[QC]

6. He's a meanie!!!

[merrily]

8. Oh, much worse than that. VILE. Not fit to breathe the oxygen of decent folk.

[QC]

11. His people have OVERRUN this place!!!

according to one person here who is always denouncing other people's speech as hateful and bigoted.

Interesting choice of words, don't you think, to associate other people with roaches and the like?

Ahhhh, love and kindness.

[merrily]

15. I KNOW. I was for Bernie until I saw how his supporters here posted.

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Then #BernieLostMe because I choose a POTUS based on twitter and message boards and I think everyone should.

[QC]

18. I always make my electoral decisions on the basis

of how people behave on message boards.

Doesn't everyone?

[Duckhunter935]

7. What question?

[merrily]

9. Does it matter, really?

[notadmblnd]

12. Yes he does make distinctions as to why there is income inequality

and the distinction is not- that poverty exits because of immigrants.

BTW- Isn't that a Trump meme?

[Live and Learn]

13. Of course he does and he addresses ways to fix it. But you have already acknowledged hating him

so I doubt you truly care.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. The comfort of the rich relies on an abundant supply of the poor. Voltaire

[merrily]

17. Tierra, have I ever mentioned how much I love and respect your posts? If not, shame on me.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. I don't know but I must return the complement about your posts.

[merrily]

21. Thank you so much. However, most of mine are play; yours are genius.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Flattery will get you everywhere.

Shakespeare was a genius. Tolstoy was a genius. Bach, Beethoven, Picasso, were geniuses.

I'm just a dabbler in words and history with an interest in politics and people and books. My wife thinks I'm a genius because I was able to figure out the remote control. But, not so much when I forget our anniversary or my wallet when we go shopping.

But, I'm very much gratified by your kind words.

[merrily]

24. "Flattery will get you everywhere." I soitenly hope so.

https://twitter.com/ernieisley/status/706960153581457408

And you even figured out the remote control, too?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. I have discovered the solution to gizmos. The 3 P's

Patience
Persistence
Profanity

I must admit that I rely mostly on the 3rd P when the desire to throw the gizmo our the window seems overwhelming. Of course, this genius clings to the notion that reading instructions (or, maps) is for sissies.

[merrily]

28. My solution is usually to task a ten year old with whatever I need done.

So far, so good.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. Alas, we decided on cats rather than children. Cheaper and easier to herd.

Our current cat is smart but refuses to read the directions or treat the remote as anything more than something to nudge off the coffee table.

[merrily]

27. P.S. There is also genius in knowing so many quotations and knowing

exactly when to use each one. You must be extremely well read.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. I am a reader but very undisciplined.

I read for pleasure and some things just catch my eye. I envision hell as an empty library. But...

In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. Friedrich Nietzsche''

[merrily]

31. Discipline in reading

is unnecessary, and perhaps counter-productive, unless you have assigned reading you need to do.

In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. Friedrich Nietzsche''

That would be hell.

Nietzsche must not have thought that one through.

[bobbobbins01]

16. My county is the richest in the U.S.!

Suck on that plebs!

[Bluenorthwest]

20. So you want Bernie to point out the the rich parts have their staff live in the other part of

the county? It's not geography that separates. It's money and class. You act as if it's just 'I just happen to live at Hope Ranch, so I'm rich. Those who want to be rich should just move to Hope Ranch!!!!'

Santa Barbara County and California as a whole is exactly as Bernie says and you know this.

[upaloopa]

25. No it is not that simple. That is one thing wrong with you and Bernie.

You melt everything down to easy to digest talking points.

That is something that would have to be taken into account if you were to have real solutions which you don't.

Like Hillary says it is easy to diognos a problem

[cloudythescribbler]

32. what is easy is to come up w/a dismissive meme & then deploy it ...

to brush aside genuine concerns. If Santa Barbara County has a high median income relative to the rest of the state and country AND ALSO a high poverty rate, that is worth pointing out. That the poverty is concentrated in certain subregions of the county is not surprising, and does not vitiate what I gather was Bernie's point about poverty in the midst of wealth -- which his campaign emphasizes DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. Sen Rubio honestly noted that if Bernie and supporters want the kind of more equal society he advocates he & we belong in Denmark or Sweden. Well, we want that IN THE US, and that is more than just a "mere" diagnosis.

Many of Bernie's "diagnoses" are NOT raised by other candidates -- and that is a very worthwhile start in progressive politics. Calling for solutions, like a WWII scale sudden & necessary economic transformation to meet the challenge of climate catastrophe is another very valuable part of what Bernie does

[merrily]

33. Sorry, no. Bluenorthwest is one of DU's few remaining posters who

actually knows stuff.

As for your pot shot at Bernie, LOL!

[Bluenorthwest]

34. Why thanks and when in comes to CA, that's my home State and I am a sort of Henry Higgens

of CA verbiage. Santa Barbara County rich are a special thing. The 'Northern Part' of that small county is anchored by Santa Maria,where median home prices are about 350K.

What the OP does not want to talk about of course is who is poor in that county. Poverty rate for white people is 10%. 16% for African Americans, 19% for Latinos and 26% for Native Americans.
cosb.countyofsb.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=44140

If the link does not work search for 'Snapshot of Poverty in SB county'. It's government material.

[merrily]

36. My pleasure. I'm always happy to post truth.

As you may know, Oprah lives in Santa Barbara. Of course, she has more than one residence, but, last I heard, she loved her home in Santa Barbara most. That was a few years ago. She may have a new favorite now, but it was a lovely place.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. You fail to dispute my facts or to add some of your own. You just try to insult me.

Your claim that poverty in your county is geographic in genesis is absurd and it is also not correct that poverty in the county is isolated in the northern part. Fact is poverty is the camp follower of the wealth in SB, with pockets of service poor around all the centers of affluence.
This stuff is all factual and comprised of information collected by your own county.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. From your local press:

Taken together, the results of the poverty study and the national and statewide findings from the Census Bureau show that Santa Barbara County may have a higher median income ($60,078) than the state ($58,328) and the country ($51,000), but it also boasts a higher poverty rate. While the percentage of Californians living in poverty tops 16 percent and the percentage of Americans living in poverty hovers around 15 percent, Santa Barbara County weighs in at 18 percent.
http://www.independent.com/news/2013/sep/23/comparing-santa-barbaras-poverty-countrys