Jeff Weaver is accusing Hillary Clinton of stealing a venue she booked months ago

[bigtree]

Benjamin ?@phase_xii 16h16 hours ago
Apparently Jeff Weaver is accusing Hillary Clinton of stealing a venue she booked months ago.

LAist @LAist
Sanders Campaign Alleges L.A. City Councilman Meddled In Campaign Event, Forced Venue Change http://laist.com/2016/06/04/sanders_campaign_alleges_la_city_co.php …

[geek tragedy]

1. Time to send the clown show back to Vermont. nt

[lunamagica]

2. Oh, what a tagled web we weave...he can't even keep up with his lies anymore...

[DrDan]

7. ". . . we weave" - very good!

[lunamagica]

24. Thanks!

[virtualobserver]

3. that article does not actually say that

[bigtree]

10. the attack on the councilman is meant to imply that he's acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign

As the L.A. Times reports, a Sanders campaign staffer said, in an email to the Greek Theatre, that Ryu had set up "roadblocks" that forced the change of venue. Ryu endorsed Clinton and visited a fundraiser for her in March.

[virtualobserver]

11. your headline : "Jeff Weaver is accusing Hillary Clinton of stealing a venue she booked months ago"

the article? Secretary Clinton has scheduled an identical event two days later.

The article says "a local Los Angeles city councilman forced us to move from this iconic venue, even though Secretary Clinton has scheduled an identical event two days later—an event to which no objection has been raised"

The tweet from which you derived the headline is false. It misstates the content of the article.

[bigtree]

12. I think you're confused

...whatever.

[virtualobserver]

13. No, I simply read the article in the link.

[bigtree]

16. you've certainly got deniability

....but most people, including many Sanders supporters who've echoed the charge, believe Hillary is masterminding every perceived slight against the Sanders campaign, including the moving of this venue.

Sorry the article didn't flesh that out to your satisfaction.

[puffy socks]

20. Nice try...

that's what Sanders is accusing them of doing.

Instead, the Sanders campaign alleges personal action from L.A. City Councilman David Ryu, who represents the area around the Greek, "forced" the campaign to change venues. As the campaign explained in an email:

Unfortunately, after reaching terms with the professional staff at the Greek to host our rally, interference from a local Los Angeles city councilman forced us to move from this iconic venue, even though Secretary Clinton has scheduled an identical event two days later—an event to which no objection has been raised."
In reality, however, the "roadblocks" the Sanders campaign speaks of are standard city policy. Where the campaign advertised the concert as a "free" and "open-to-the-public" event, the Greek theatre operates only on a ticket-based system. The tickets can be free, but people inside of the theatre must have been issued a ticket to be there, reports the Los Feliz Ledger.

Sanders' campaign did not have a ticketing system set up for guests to register at the Greek, furnishing only an "RSVP strongly encouraged" statement on its website.


“Any person or organization that chooses to have an event at the Greek Theatre needs to follow all the same guidelines," Montemayor said to Times. “The Sanders campaign was asked to work with L.A. city staff on a traffic mitigation plan and a ticketing system, just as the Clinton campaign has done for their event on Monday evening. The Sanders campaign chose not to move forward, all while the city held resources for tomorrow’s event.”

Once again Sanders and his supporters can't be bothered with rules. So they didn't follow them and blame Hillary. What else is new.
Neither Sanders nor his supporters ever take responsibility for anything...but they love to take credit for "starting" a revolution about issues we've been fighting for for years and gradually getting legislated while Bernie and Co. whine, dig in their heels and get nothing accomplished.

[virtualobserver]

22. it says that a councilman forced it, not Hillary

[puffy socks]

25. Sanders claims he was forced by a councilman for HILLARY.

And there is no reason to bring it up unless Weaver is trying to smear Hillary. Right? Otherwise why do people nowhere near this location need to know this information?

and here is Weaver's attempt at connecting HC and implying the councilman is a shill for Hillary...hence the title.

"....councilman forced us to move from this iconic venue, even though Secretary Clinton has scheduled an identical event two days later—an event to which no objection has been raised."


He is making assertions , that like most of his assertions are untrue.

He didn't follow the rules, as I posted, and he got himself moved for that foolish decision.


Maybe you can get them to change the title of the OP so Weaver's intent be obscured as you wish. we'll see.

[LuvLoogie]

29. It seems Weaver constantly blames Hillary and the DNC

for his own incompetence, whether it's informing Bernie's supporters of registration rules or jeopardizing the campaign's access to voter data or understanding a given state's delegate selection process or basic logistical planning.

Lawsuits and finger-pointing is a poor substitute for a professionally run presidential campaign

[virtualobserver]

31. The staffer blames the council member......not Hillary

[joshcryer]

33. Don't be coy.

[virtualobserver]

36. Don't put words in the staffers mouth

[joshcryer]

38. The implication is obvious.

Your denial doesn't change that.

[virtualobserver]

42. it is your world of pure imagination, not mine.....I can't change it.

[joshcryer]

43. This is a pattern of behavior from Weavers team.

Imply some subterfuge. Pretend they didn't. Act as if nothing happened.

[virtualobserver]

44. the staffer didn't claim subterfuge....they claimed unfairness

[joshcryer]

46. "forced us to move" = subterfuge

Again, don't be coy.

[puffy socks]

40. He does constantly blame Hillary and the DNC

these fools can't run a lemonade stand and think they're going to pass off their ignorance and shoddy work as cheating.
and some of the supporters are just as ignorant on the election laws etc yet want to come in and take over the Democratic Party and run it ..... into the ground.

I suppose that might be because they know they aren't capable of forming any viable party themselves. That's too much work, so they figure trying a hostile take over from the majority is easier.

[AuntPatsy]

4. Wrong if guilty of such, why fight for certain changes yet continue yo play by the universal

handbook of which is inscribed with "whatever it takes"?

??

[Tarc]

5. This story was soundly debunked yesterday. Sanders abandoned the Greek Theater

because they couldn't figure out the logistics in time, nor could they fit into the Theater's ticketed-event-only policy. They then moved the even to the LA Coliseum Plaza (note, not the coliseum itself).

Hillary booked the Greek months ago, tickets allocated, all the ducks in a row.

[pnwmom]

8. Right -- but the point the OP is making is that this is yet another publicity ploy

on Weaver's part . . . one more attempt to appear as the victim of the all-powerful Hillary campaign.

[Tarc]

9. I know, we're all in agreement :)

Just wanted to highlight how Weaver is crying long after the milk was spilled, and he doesn't realize that his own camp spilled it.

Stories like this make me wonder what happen to Tad Devine. Did they exile him? That last month ro so if Sanders campaign has been weirdly uneven.

[Sheepshank]

6. A bunch of DU BSers fell for these lies too.

Their campaign standards of propoganda truly suck

[WhiteTara]

14. So did he want her day? Wasn't his for a different day?

How could Hillary steal his place if it wasn't scheduled for the same time? What a bunch of nonsense. It's amazing how that campaign is so full of self pity and whine.

[jillan]

15. Why are you posting lies? Bernie had the venue booked. And then they were

told they were "unbooked" because of some Hostile Hillary congresswoman supporter who got involved.

No need to tell tales.

Unfortunately, after reaching terms with the professional staff at the Greek to host our rally, interference from a local Los Angeles city council-member forced us to move from this iconic venue, even though Secretary Clinton has scheduled an identical event for two days later — an event to which no objection has been raised.

http://laist.com/2016/06/03/get_him_to_the_greek.php

[Demsrule86]

19. No he didn't ...what a careless campaign .

Careless with the truth too.

[puffy socks]

17. from the candidate running on honesty and integrity

The whole world is against Bernie and his bros!
Puerto Rico! Iowa! Nevada! NY! Massachusetts! the DNC! Hillary supporters! All of corporate America! every employee of any bank or investment house, wealthy people, "the establishment", dog catchers, paper boys,

whatever shall we dooooooooo?!

[MohRokTah]

18. Yep, the guy running on honesty and integrity is the most dishonest and corrupt person in the field!

He's suckering people. A modern Day P.T. Barnum!

[puffy socks]

21. Sad isn't it? nt

[tarheelsunc]

26. What's REALLY sad is that MohRokTah's statement is true... in a field including TRUMP. eom

[BootinUp]

39. +1

[beachbum bob]

23. weaver....the game is rig because we are a bunch of whiners that don't want rules

embarrassing america

[stonecutter357]

27. fuck Ron Paul.

[JDPriestly]

28. This has nothing to do with Monday. Your post is ill informed.

[grasswire]

30. Who is Angie Mele?

Some unknown twitter user?

Do you have no ISSUES to discuss, Hillaryans??

[SaschaHM]

32. Such a messy story...

Event planning 101: Figure out the rules and regulations of the venue.

The Sanders' organizer should have known about the ticketing system needed for the venue. They dropped the ball, and then sent out an email suggesting that something untoward was happening because a city councilman got in touch with the arena and a Hillary event, which has a ticketing system, is happening 2 days later. These rules are in place for a reason. Tickets allow for the venue and the authorities to appropriately plan for the amount of people and to keep them safe.

[joshcryer]

34. Fuck Weaver.

[BobbyDrake]

41. I can picture the alert text already...

"Insulting the spokesman of one of the Democratic candidates is rude and made me cry. Save me from the existence of other people's opinions!"

[joshcryer]

45. Weaver is a POS used car salesman.

And Tad Devine is this cycles Mark Penn in every way. These guys are vultures and they convinced Sanders to do really low crap that he's had to walk back time and time again.

[BobbyDrake]

47. I agree. His advisors destroyed him, and he went along willingly.

But hey, Jeff Weaver got to get out from behind the comic book store counter for a few months, making way more money than his failed business ever will. And Tad Devine, well, an average American could retire in style based on how much Devine swindled from the progressive left this primary cycle.

ETA: If Bernie is such a "man of the people," why are all his advisors 1%ers?

[joshcryer]

51. When Sanders called Clinton unqualified...

...I know that fucking Weaver and his shitheads manipulated him into saying that. Sanders apologized a day or so later. Was quite embarrassing.

[BobbyDrake]

53. To what apology are you referring? From what I recall, he doubled down and blamed everyone except

himself, even though he was the one who said the words. And he continued that line of attack through the remainder of the NY primary and beyond.

[joshcryer]

56. He walked it back, I should've said.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/617285/bernie-sanders-walks-back-unqualified-dig-hillary-clinton

[BobbyDrake]

57. Look at his first instinctual response, though:

Rose asked Sanders if he meant it: "Do you feel Secretary Clinton is unqualified to be president?" Sanders responded, "Well, does Secretary Clinton believe I am unqualified to be president?" (She did not say that; Sanders pointed to a Washington Post headline that suggested she had.)

He didn't appear to be walking anything back so much as he was offering excuses for why he felt justified in saying it.

Rose pulled an Anderson Cooper. "That's not a reason, I promise you, to say, 'I'm saying it because they attacked me,'" he told Sanders.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't see anywhere on the record where it appears that Sanders expressed genuine remorse or contrition for what he said and how he said it. His whole response amounted to, "But they started it" with no clear evidence to support that.

If he had just admitted that he had misread a headline, it might have all gone away. But he couldn't. He couldn't admit to a simple mistake like misinterpreting a simple newspaper headline, and came out looking like a damn fool.

[joshcryer]

58. I think he was given intentionally bad info, though.

Like right before the speech or something.

[bravenak]

59. Thank you!

I have been saying this for months!

[grossproffit]

48. Yep. I got hidden and a time out for saying that about Jill Stein. Yeah, Jill Stein.

[joshcryer]

49. Wow, really? That boring demagogue?

Must have been before Skinner started banning crappy jurors.

[grossproffit]

50. Yep. Saying nasty things about Hillary? = okay. Saying nasty things about Stein? = bad!

[joshcryer]

55. I love that the Green Party keeps running such an uninspiring candidate.

Jill Stein is not a credible threat to the Democrats.

Unbelievable you'd get a hide for pointing out the obvious.

[BobbyDrake]

52. 5x Failure Jill Stein? The one who couldn't get elected dogcatcher in liberal MA?

Her candidacy and the people who support it are a bad joke.

[doc03]

35. He looks and sounds more like a Trump operative to me n/t

[BobbyDrake]

37. Jeff Weaver is the only broken clock that is NOT right twice a day. nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

54. 1% Weaver should check his facts.

Because he hasn't got any.