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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:28 PM Jun 2016

What is Bernie going to do between the time the voting ends and the convention begins?

There will be tons of pressure for him to support Hillary but will he listen?

Is he going to continue to say he has a path to the nomination? That would only make him look like a fool.

Is he just talking out of his hat right now to get as many votes as he can in CA?

How many Sanders supporters believe him and how many realize it is over?

On Tuesday the media will call Hillary the presumptive nominee as Bernie says they will. But if he insists she hasn't won and that he can fight her nomination at the convention he risks looking as an outsider and not a Democrat. If he thinks he can give a campaign speech instead of a call for unity at the convention I think the party will disown him.

Sure many of his followers will not vote in the general. Most likely they wouldn't have anyway if Bernie hadn't run.

The reason Bernie lost is this: You can't manufacture reality. You can't bully your way to a win. You can't make up one sided polls on the internet and expect that you are measuring what is going on in the real world. You can't say every time you didn't win it was because the election was stolen.


Bernie is continuing to tell his supporters that they can invent a win when that is the furthest thing from the truth.


He is just plain being dishonest.

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What is Bernie going to do between the time the voting ends and the convention begins? (Original Post) upaloopa Jun 2016 OP
Bernie will do two things between the time voting ends and the convention begins. LonePirate Jun 2016 #1
The No Guarantees Part Is WHAT Is Worrying The Corporatists In Charge Of This Kabuki Theater! CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #11
It's an interesting question, as to whether he concedes before the convention. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2016 #18
Hillary doesn't need his endorsement. She doesn't need him on the campaign trail. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #2
It's not over Jack Bone Jun 2016 #3
You're right it isn't over. Tarc Jun 2016 #6
Yeah yer close...we'll give it to ya.. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #7
He is already doing it: Brand New Congress. Kudos to him for it too. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #4
I think he concedes on the 15th Txbluedog Jun 2016 #5
It is sad...Whether Bernie concedes or not... Henhouse Jun 2016 #8
Campaign One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #9
against Clinton or Trump? onenote Jun 2016 #14
for what a nomination he lost? nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #21
Wait for Hillary to withdraw? k8conant Jun 2016 #10
I'm starting to wonder if it's a game of chicken Fumesucker Jun 2016 #13
You assume a lot. After all, Sanders is the self-described outsider onenote Jun 2016 #15
The little people talk among themselves Fumesucker Jun 2016 #16
I've been in Washington working with Congress in one way or another for 35 years onenote Jun 2016 #20
It is over; she is the presumptive nominee today or Tuesday. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #22
Your eye is on the wrong ball. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #12
Bernie isn't really doing any of those things aikoaiko Jun 2016 #17
He has nothing left to fight for. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #23
Helping to elect a president Trump Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #24
realistically??? As long as a microphone is in front of him, his ego won't let him stop beachbum bob Jun 2016 #19
I'm not sure LWolf Jun 2016 #25
When the primary is over you have to think about what the country will be like with Trump as upaloopa Jun 2016 #27
When the primary is over, LWolf Jun 2016 #28
I applaud that goal. upaloopa Jun 2016 #30
He'll take up bird-watching. randome Jun 2016 #26
My hope is that he keeps up the narrative and forces some kind of change. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #29
Making sure all the votes are accounted for. PeoViejo Jun 2016 #31
A kick for Bernie! bigwillq Jun 2016 #32
Bernie will do whatever Bernie chooses to do. He doesn't usually fold to "pressure". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #33
You haven't yet figured out that this isn't about Bernie... 2banon Jun 2016 #34

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
1. Bernie will do two things between the time voting ends and the convention begins.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jun 2016

1. He will concede.
2. He will return to Congress.

Beyond that, there are no guarantees what he will do.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
11. The No Guarantees Part Is WHAT Is Worrying The Corporatists In Charge Of This Kabuki Theater!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016
Should be entertaining and quite possibly will tear the cloak over the fraudulent system that the corporate media refers to as ... "Democracy."
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
2. Hillary doesn't need his endorsement. She doesn't need him on the campaign trail.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders should just return to the Senate to serve out his term.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
5. I think he concedes on the 15th
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jun 2016

That's when the primaries are finished and his campaign has it extended deadline to report May fundraising and expenses. I think at this point the campaigns internal focus is to try and win California so that they're in a stronger position to make demands of the DNC and the Clinton campaign. If, Sanders chooses to continue past the 15th, I don't see his senior campaign staff sticking around. They want to be viable in the future and probably won't want to burn bridges.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
8. It is sad...Whether Bernie concedes or not...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

After Hillary becomes the presumptive nominee on Tuesday night. Hillary, the media and the nation are going to shift focus to the general. Seriously, what will Bernie do for the next month and half?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. I'm starting to wonder if it's a game of chicken
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:15 AM
Jun 2016

I suspect Sanders has sources feeding him inside info, he's been around a long time and knows the levers of power in DC.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
15. You assume a lot. After all, Sanders is the self-described outsider
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:16 AM
Jun 2016

The insiders don't feed him information. They have no incentive to do so when he's out there attacking them.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. The little people talk among themselves
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

They are often invisible to the big people, remember that Romney's 47% remark was recorded by a server, someone beneath notice.

Sanders has cultivated the little people in Washington over the years.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
20. I've been in Washington working with Congress in one way or another for 35 years
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jun 2016

and your statement is without foundation or basis. Simply not true.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
17. Bernie isn't really doing any of those things
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jun 2016

He is simply fighting for every vote and every delegate possible for a more liberal agenda.

It's really not that mysterious.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
23. He has nothing left to fight for.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

She has won the primary and will be declared the presumptive nominee today or Tuesday.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
24. Helping to elect a president Trump
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

who will destroy the liberal agenda is not what any kind of progressive would or should do.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
19. realistically??? As long as a microphone is in front of him, his ego won't let him stop
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jun 2016

after tuesday, he will just be a novelty...the guy who lost and has turned into a sore loser.....America hates sore losers and bernie better be careful....

can he impact the general election sure...if he wants trump to win, bernie could do what he can to make the general election lot closer her hillary

I am hoping for a shred of decency in bernie but I won't hold my breath. I nailed him that he is what he is turning out to be from the beginning...an angry old socialist who could derive pleasure from destroying the democratic party and sticking america with trump to teach us all a lesson

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
25. I'm not sure
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

where the idea that his supporters won't vote in the GE is coming from. As a Sanders supporter, it's nothing I'm hearing from them. I only hear it from Clinton supporters, which makes it more than a bit suspect.

As for the rest? I know it's really frustrating when a large segment of the voting population doesn't get in line, adopt conventional establishment politics wisdom, and give up the fight. Condescension, patronizing, and other forms of verbal bullying really feed the situation, rather than resolving it, which is even more frustrating.

Get used to it.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. When the primary is over you have to think about what the country will be like with Trump as
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jun 2016

president. Nobody says you have to give up your ideals to help prevent the catastrophe that awaits all of us if Trump wins.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
28. When the primary is over,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jun 2016

I'm paying attention to races that make my goal possible. My goal is to elect as many people who are not neo-liberals as possible.

I really won't be invested in races that don't offer a chance to achieve that goal. That's reality.

I certainly don't want President Trump, but neither do I want a government of neo-liberals. Who sits in the WH is not the only priority. In my view.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. He'll take up bird-watching.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:41 AM
Jun 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
33. Bernie will do whatever Bernie chooses to do. He doesn't usually fold to "pressure".
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jun 2016

I'll give consideration to whatever he does, says, or doesn't do or say. In the end, I'll make my own decision on who to vote for.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
34. You haven't yet figured out that this isn't about Bernie...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

The question isn't what will Bernie do, the question is what will WE do?

The question is what will Bernie Supporters and the Political REVOLUTION do.. but it's a question that is being answered now and continue to be answered as time goes on, with increased political awareness and activism (which has blossomed and continues to blossom) manifesting itself in the political arena across the nation.

Just have to open your eyes and ears for that answer.

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