Camile Paglia on Hillary's Sleepwalking

[Meteor Man]

For the Nth time raised to the third power, why Bernie won't quit:

The article’s floating of the idea of a Joe Biden-Elizabeth Warren substitute ticket (which I’ve been privately predicting to friends all year) is so evenly and magisterially phrased that I wondered if the text had been vetted by an approving White House. So this may be why Bernie Sanders (my candidate) has gone into overdrive—not to damage Hillary, as her acolytes spitefully claim, but to fight off the tactical insertion of Biden at the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia. Sanders could rightly claim, on the basis of his long and strenuous primary campaign, that if anyone deserves the nomination vacated by a tarnished Hillary, it is he. If Sanders does defer to Biden, it will only be via enormous concessions, beginning with the unceremonious removal of devious DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Keep repeating the weak meme about Bernie looking like a sore loser, dead ender, bitter ender, yada, yada, yada, woo, woo, blah, blah, blah to your heart's content.

Oh yeah, FACTS! MATH! THE VOTERS!

Nobody cares, because Bernie is in it to win it. The fat lady don't sing until the Democratic Convention Soap Opera is over.

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/02/zombie_time_at_campaign_hillary_camille_paglia_on_trumps_real_strength_and_clintons_fatal_sleepwalking/

[SidDithers]

1. Camile Paglia...

Sid

[appal_jack]

35. SpitDribbles

-app

[sufrommich]

2. I am not surprised that Paglia has some support

among Bernie fans. That's all I'll say.

[Meteor Man]

5. Ignore the argument

Shoot the messenger. Typical ad hominem attack.

[geek tragedy]

10. put a troll's name in your post title, expect to get called out for it.

you should be smarter than to put a piece of garbage like Camille Paglia in your post title

though you're also advocating disenfranchising the Democratic primary electorate, so shame isn't your thing

[geek tragedy]

3. Congratulations on getting birther bigot Camille Paglia in your corner, Bernie people

11 more days until the Camille Paglia crowd at DU needs to start behaving themselves

[SidDithers]

6. Camile Paglia - I was wrong about Donald Trump

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/10/i_was_wrong_about_donald_trump_camille_paglia_on_the_gop_front_runners_refreshing_candor_and_his_impetuousness_too/

"Yes, he remains thin-skinned and easily riled. But his fearlessness and brash energy also seem necessary and rare"


11 days.

Sid

[highprincipleswork]

25. Can't wait to see what that looks like, sleepwalkers.

[geek tragedy]

26. it will look like a bunch of progressive Democrats dedicated to

preventing a bigoted, fascist plutocrat from running our country.

those who do not share that agenda contribute nothing but bad things to this site

[highprincipleswork]

30. As I've said before, life is wonderful in Hillary Land, where all puffing up of Hillary is "good"

and any recognition of her negatives is "bad".

[Demsrule86]

58. Yeah well using a right wing Obama hater

as your 'attack' piece...is just gross.

[annavictorious]

4. Camille Paglia on Sarah Palin's brilliant brand of feminism.

http://jezebel.com/5084245/camille-paglia-sarah-palin-is-the-savior-of-third-world-feminism

[sufrommich]

8. Paglia: "Birthers’ Aren’t Racist, And They Have A Point"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/18/paglia-birthers-arent-rac_n_291560.html

[PeaceNikki]

7. Camille Paglia has been trolling since before trolling was A Thing.

She's the OG of barfing up archaic assertions about women, men, and feminism, justifying them with sweeping, unverified statements, and dressing them up with $2 words, and calling it new. Her latest, "It's A Man's World, And It Always Will Be" is so absurd that it doesn't merit a response; it merits an edit.

Paglia doesn't exactly have a history of saying things that make any damn sense. Most recently, she yammered on about Katy Perry and Taylor Swift being awful because they are The Bad Kind Of Pop Star, then lauded "bootylicious, confident urban women" because they are The Good Kind of Pop Star. During the 2008 election, she compared Sarah Palin's incoherent and endless run-on sentence style of talking to listening to some pretty excellent jazz and declared her the savior of "third world feminism." She's endlessly weird about fetishizing women of color as paragons of hotness (that makes a cameo in the piece you're about to read) and repeatedly slapping the air around her for invisible, vague feminists who hate all men and want sex to end forever. Planet Paglia is one where white bitches are hating men and fun and the only people who can save it are movie versions of hyper sexualized women of color. It's refried bullshit is what it is.

http://jezebel.com/camille-paglia-please-see-me-after-class-1484324950

[Meteor Man]

12. Shoot the messenger!

Ad hominem nonsense proves nothing.

[PeaceNikki]

13. Molly Ivins' takedown of Paglia is classic.

http://grigr.com/2011/09/i-am-the-cosmos/

"What we have here, fellow citizens, is a crassly egocentric, raving twit. The Norman Podhoretz of our gender. That this woman is actually taken seriously as a thinker in New York intellectual circles is a clear sign of decadence, decay, and hopeless pinheadedness. Has no one in the nation’s intellectual capital the background and ability to see through a web of categorical assertions? One fashionable line of response to Paglia is to claim that even though she may be fundamentally off-base, she has 'flashes of brilliance.' If so, I missed them in her oceans of swill."

[Meteor Man]

17. New York has Intellectual Circles?

That this woman is actually taken seriously as a thinker in New York intellectual circles is a clear sign of decadence, decay, and hopeless pinheadedness.

Do they have intellectual octagons too?

[PeaceNikki]

24. Paglia is a horrible person and should only be cited here to mock.

And mock, I will.

[Meteor Man]

27. That's funny

Camile Paglia speaks highly of you!

[PeaceNikki]

32. "If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts." -Paglia

"People who can’t see how smart Palin is are trapped in their own narrow parochialism — the tedious, hackneyed forms of their upper-middle-class syntax and vocabulary." -Paglia

"No one is “born gay.” The idea is ridiculous, but it is symptomatic of our overpoliticized climate that such assertions are given instant credence by gay activists and their media partisans. I think what gay men are remembering is that they were born different." -Paglia

"I like Sarah Palin, and I’ve heartily enjoyed her arrival on the national stage. As a career classroom teacher, I can see how smart she is — and quite frankly, I think the people who don’t see it are the stupid ones, wrapped in the fuzzy mummy-gauze of their own worn-out partisan dogma. So she doesn’t speak the King’s English — big whoop! There is a powerful clarity of consciousness in her eyes. She uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist. I stand on what I said (as a staunch pro-choice advocate) in my last two columns — that Palin as a pro-life wife, mother and ambitious professional represents the next big shift in feminism. Pro-life women will save feminism by expanding it, particularly into the more traditional Third World." -Paglia

[Meteor Man]

34. Is she Catholic?

Don't know and don't care. I avoid pie if at all possible. Got my 30 day chip for complete abstinance from The Pie Fight Place.

[seabeyond]

36. Of course she doesn't. She has never said a positive thing about women or to women. Nt

[Demsrule86]

59. I miss Molly. Thanks! nt

[PeaceNikki]

68. I know, right? She was such a gem.

[Demsrule86]

70. She was the best! nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. "Going out of business sale!!! All outrages MUST GO!!!!"

[NCTraveler]

11. This is sad to watch.

But the transparency is nice.

[Meteor Man]

15. Yep. Hillary's Campaign Trainwreck is sad

Fortunately, the Democratic Party has Bernie to pull their fat from the fire.

[NCTraveler]

18. That's it. Yeah. Go with that. Nt

[Meteor Man]

19. Maybe a new pair of glasses would help

If you can't see a trainwreck right in front of your eyes, optometrists can help.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. "That's it. Yeah. Go with that."

[Meteor Man]

21. That's it.

Yeah go with that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. I knew a smart lad like yourself would find me persuasive.

Thank you.

[Meteor Man]

28. Yeah that's right.

Go with that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I will. Thank you.

[Meteor Man]

37. Yep. That's right.

Take that and run with it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. Sure. No problem. I look forward to your next puerile reply.

[Meteor Man]

42. Matching yours of course

Puerile minds gonna be puerile.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. I expected an inane response and I wasn't disappointed.

Thank you, I think.

[Meteor Man]

47. Always eager to oblige

Keep on truckin'!

[NCTraveler]

23. Go with your original argument.

The addition of further superiority isn't necessary. You really had it perfect.

[2banon]

14. that was a fun read, needed the chuckles..

[Meteor Man]

16. Glad I could help you out

That's why I'm here.

[Demsrule86]

33. Really? This person is a rightwing hater...

It is a badge of honor to have her attack you...but hey I guess she likes Bernie right?

[Meteor Man]

39. Don't know if they are close friends

Let me google that for you.

[Demsrule86]

55. I have seen her and her tripe many times

I would never post such drivel.

[Demsrule86]

60. Oh no need

It is clear...what their relationship is.

[Beacool]

38. Paglia and Dowd are two women who can go and suck a lemon.

A middle finger to both of them. I hope that they choke on their bile when Hillary is declared the presumptive nominee on Tuesday night.

[Meteor Man]

40. I thought Hillary already was presumptive nominee

What happened?

[Beacool]

45. She'll officially hit the mark on Tuesday after polls close in NJ.

The media will jump all over it, although I think that her campaign may keep it low key until CA votes. No need to ruffle the feathers of people who the party will need in November.

[Meteor Man]

49. Oh yeah!

Chris Matthews has already announced that as the Official Party Spokesperson he is going to call it on June 7th.

Then we can all relax until November 1st when Chris Matthews announces that Hillary is the First Woman President!

[Demsrule86]

61. It is always called at this point

in the primary...she has the delegates ...he lost.

[Jitter65]

44. Oh, you mean her:

Paglia's view that rape is sexually motivated has been endorsed by evolutionary psychologists Randy Thornhill and Craig T. Palmer; they comment that "Paglia... urges women to be skeptical toward the feminist 'party line' on the subject, to become better informed about risk factors, and to use the information to lower their risk of rape."[54]

[Meteor Man]

46. I didn't know she had so many fans at DU

Thx for keeping an eye on her.

[PeaceNikki]

48. Right leaning, libertarian assholes should get a chilly response on a Democratic site.

[Meteor Man]

50. Are left leaning libertarian assholes ok?

I can't keep up with all the pigeon holes around here.

[PeaceNikki]

51. You should reread the TOS if you're unclear on who we support here on DU.

[Demsrule86]

65. No such thing

But if you can't identify right wing haters...too bad for you. Here is a suggestion...read other articles they wrote...you know like the one praising Sarah Palin.

[Meteor Man]

52. Why did this thread pop back up?

I thought there was a limit on beating dead horses.

[muriel_volestrangler]

67. 'pop back up'? How long did you think it was 'down'?

You were replying to people in it pretty consistently since you posted it. If you want one of your threads to disappear, then don't reply in it.

[noiretextatique]

53. even a broken clock is right once a day

if folks embraced fng andrew sullivan, which they did, for his sudden obama-love, i will give this odious creature a pass...once.

[rickford66]

54. Biden promised not to run for Pres when picked for VP

[Adrahil]

57. Camille Paglia is a horrible human being. NT

[Skwmom]

62. I think the whole Biden/Warren ticket is just to make Warren jump to their tune and do what

they want. There is NO way the Clintons will step aside. And I do not see Obama letting an indictment take place. He has had Clinton's back for months.

[obamanut2012]

63. Camille Paglia -- lololololololololololololololol;oloololkhnfhvuiehi

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[workinclasszero]

64. Camile Paglia

[bettyellen]

66. She is a hateful idiot and Biden and Warren is ridiculous....

Biden/ Warren? Lol.

[FSogol]

69. Camile Paglia? What does Orly Taitz think?