'That is not journalism': Cenk Uygur goes off on CNN host for counting superdelegates

[portlander23]

'That is not journalism': Cenk Uygur goes off on CNN host for counting super delegates
DAVID EDWARDS
Raw Story

“If you count them in the official tally when you know they can and often do switch their votes and have not voted yet, that is simply incorrect,” Uygur said. “That is the opposite of a fact.”

Uygur argued that superdelegates were only meant to overturn the will of the Democratic primary voters in “extraordinary circumstances.”

“You know what would be extraordinary? If one of the candidates were indicted!” he exclaimed. “You guys keep assuming there will be no indictment. And, Brian, I hear you have ‘reliable sources’ so do you have any sources inside the FBI or State Department that have already told you that she is not going to get indicted?”

I think it's unlikely Mrs. Clinton will be indicted, but I agree that calling the primary before all the votes are cast is incorrect. Of course, the Democratic Party has been trying to call the primary since Iowa, so this is nothing new.

[davidlynch]

1. Ding Ding Ding n/t

[hrmjustin]

2. So the fact these delegates have announced who they are supporting should be ignored?

I think not!

Deal with it!

[MariaThinks]

26. it's part of the me me

[upaloopa]

3. It makes no difference what you or I think. The world will acknowledge Hillary

as the primary winner. We can either agree with it or not.

We can't change that fact.

[floppyboo]

31. If you mean after the convention, yes. Before? No.

You see, we have other news sources and tend to look at what is apparently, and rightfully, a full on battle, with a different perspective. And we aren't shamed into watching the prescribed news channels.

I, like many other citizens of the world, are hoping to end oligarchy. I want equal say for all the people in decisions that will lead to climate, political, social, economic justice. I also believe in the sovereignty of nation states. And so comment from the peanut gallery only.

[reformist2]

4. Let them include the supers. If Hillary is indicted, even pledged delegates will be switching!

[Tarc]

5. Poor l'lil Cenk

[CrowCityDem]

6. Cenk speaking at Bernie rallies isn't journalism either. Hello, bias!

[merrily]

12. Has Cenk claimed to be, or held himself out as, an objective journalist?

Conversely, has CNN proclaimed its bias?

[Lord Magus]

16. Cenk loves to say he "keeps it real."

But with his insistence that supers not be counted he's keeping it unreal.

[TimPlo]

19. No it is a keeping it real

The SD do not have to vote a set way. Just because they say Oh I am going to vote xyz does not mean that when actual vote is cast it is going to be for xyz. No one knows the future and how the SD really are going to vote saying otherwise is just lying or speculation, and if you are speculating as a reporter you need to be clear that is what you are doing.

[metroins]

34. Just because

Somebody says they're going to do something, (like vote for a candidate), doesn't mean we should believe they are going to vote the way they say they will.

I mean, it's just words right? We shouldn't believe them.

[merrily]

20. Is that a claim of objective journalism?

BTW, there is a lot of room between insisting supers NOT be counted ever and announcing numbers from day one without differentiating between super and pledged delegates, or even mentioning that there are two kinds.

AND, btw, the DNC is saying pretty much the same thing as cenk, although the DNC sure waited long enough to say it.

[CrowCityDem]

22. They do describe themselves as 'news'.

[BobbyDrake]

7. What would that fraud know about journalism? He's a book peddler, at this point, nothing but an

extension of the burgeoning Progressive Entertainment Complex.

[demwing]

35. Who, Cenk?

of yeah, there's that winner/whiner bullshit in your sig line - you're talking about Cenk.

In answer, I'd say he knows considerably more about journalism than you and I put together. You've just got a sad on because Hillary is a corrupt liar, and Cenk calls her out on it daily.

Boo-fucking-hoo

[BobbyDrake]

39. He's the progressive version of Glenn Beck. Stop fooling yourself, unless you can't. nt

[apcalc]

8. I watched it....poor guy

[Trust Buster]

9. Cenk sounded ridiculous.

[MadBadger]

10. You mean, "Noted Hypocrite, Cenk Uygur."

[grossproffit]

11. Where's the clip of Cenk from 2008 in regards to Obama?

[JoePhilly]

13. Cenk appears desperate.

[Jitter65]

14. Yeah, because the Dems have never counted delegates that way before.

[Sky Masterson]

15. Cenk is 100% correct.

.

[seabeyond]

17. "they can and often do switch their votes" No, they do not. You're right, piss poor journalism.

[Segami]

18. kick

[Surya Gayatri]

21. As if Cenk would know "journalism" from his own hind-end. LOL!

[geek tragedy]

23. Bernie mouthpiece pretends that slavish devotion to

BernieFacts is litmus test of journalism

[felix_numinous]

24. K&R For Cenk

[randome]

25. They 'often' switch their votes? Where does that come from?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[itsrobert]

27. Cenk was made to look fooish

How the mighty has fallen.

[randome]

29. Correction: Cenk simply IS foolish. No one needs to apply any effort toward that.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[comradebillyboy]

33. It's not hard to make a fool look foolish...

[Lord Magus]

28. Is it also wrong to call before all votes are cast in a non-competitive primary?

By that I mean something like in 2000 where Gore ran away with the nomination in an epic landslide and had already clinched in March.

BTW that claim that "the Democratic Party has been trying to call the primary since Iowa" is absurd nonsense.

[riversedge]

30. Cenk has a bad case of sour grapes. Makes him look foolish.

[oberliner]

32. Hillary is winning without the super delegates

In fact, if you cancel the votes of the super delegates entirely, then there is literally no way that Bernie can win.

[ContinentalOp]

36. Former Republican uses right wing talking points against the Democratic nominee

to try to prop up the losing independent candidate who has infiltrated the Democratic party with the intention of destroying it from within.

[Gothmog]

37. Cenk is wrong-super delegates have been counted by real journalists in every past contest

Cenk is wrong. In every past contested Democratic primary, the presumptive winner was announced by the press based on super delegates. President Obama was correct in making this call and it will be appropriate for Hillayr Clinton to also make this call


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History is a good thing and Sanders does not get special treatment that is different from all past contested democratic primaries

[MyNameGoesHere]

38. Math and civics aren't requirements to be a "reporter/glorified blogger"

He is forgiven for being stupid.

[beaglelover]

40. Armenian genocide denier says what now??????