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RandySF

(58,493 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:27 PM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders Campaign Is Split Over Whether to Fight on Past Tuesday

A split is emerging inside the Bernie Sanders campaign over whether the senator should stand down after Tuesday’s election contests and unite behind Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, or take the fight all the way to the July party convention and try to pry the nomination from her.

One camp might be dubbed the Sandersistas, the loyalists who helped guide Mr. Sanders’s political ascent in Vermont and the U.S. Congress and are loath to give up a fight that has far surpassed expectations. Another has ties not only to Mr. Sanders but to the broader interests of a Democratic Party pining to beat back the challenge from Republican Donald Trump and make gains in congressional elections.

Mr. Sanders in recent weeks has made clear he aims to take his candidacy past the elections on Tuesday, when California, New Jersey and four other states vote. But the debate within the campaign indicates that Mr. Sanders’s next move isn’t settled.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-campaign-is-split-over-whether-to-fight-on-past-tuesday-1465171997

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Bernie Sanders Campaign Is Split Over Whether to Fight on Past Tuesday (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2016 OP
I doubt he will quit, but if he does, the fight will continue Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #1
I'm good with either decision. morningfog Jun 2016 #2
There was a good quote from a politico article today Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #3
Let me guess. Weaver and Devine want to $$$$tay in Renew Deal Jun 2016 #4
Looks like Devine is ready to cut bait RandySF Jun 2016 #5
Devine hasn't been seen since April Trenzalore Jun 2016 #18
There's a split in the Clinton campaign between the die hard Clintonidtas and those who think she DebDoo Jun 2016 #6
why do you lie? qdouble Jun 2016 #7
Sorry, I got hit with a pretend flying chair in Vegas and I've never been the same since DebDoo Jun 2016 #9
Trollers going to troll I guess qdouble Jun 2016 #10
Not true. skylucy Jun 2016 #8
This is the natural progression of things... Txbluedog Jun 2016 #11
I hope the sane camp prevails (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #12
my humble opinion, which isn't even worth two cents renate Jun 2016 #13
Even in the unlikely event Clinton isn't nominated, Sanders still won't be nominated. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #14
He has set the issues agenda for this election even if he's not the nom and that's a win TeamPooka Jun 2016 #19
Bye Bye Bernie itsrobert Jun 2016 #15
Damn, hope I do not get a hide GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #16
So basically it is the Democrats vs non Democrats arely staircase Jun 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #20
america hates sore losers and that is all sanders has going for him as its all nonsense beachbum bob Jun 2016 #21
Sounds like some in the campaign MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #22
 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
1. I doubt he will quit, but if he does, the fight will continue
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016

The struggle for the soul of the party has always been bigger than one man.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
3. There was a good quote from a politico article today
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jun 2016
For the superdelegates to actually abandon Clinton en masse would create one of the most divisive convention spectacles in history. Not only would Clinton loyalists rail against using the supers to overturn the pledged delegate and popular vote winner, they would be maligned as putting a “glass ceiling” over the first woman to earn that distinction on flimsy grounds. As long as Clinton isn’t bottoming out in general election polling—and a new Reuters/Ipsos poll shows her back up to a double-digit lead over Trump nationwide—most superdelegates would be loath to take such a drastic step.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-california-primary-213940#ixzz4Al6HXGMM

RandySF

(58,493 posts)
5. Looks like Devine is ready to cut bait
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jun 2016

I don't think he wants to burn bridges with potential future clients.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
18. Devine hasn't been seen since April
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:38 AM
Jun 2016

I think he made the argument to tone things down after NY and PA and lost.

I fully expect those within the Sanders campaign that want a future in running campaigns will jump ship en masse.

Right now being on the Sanders campaign is pretty good on a resume. A chaos filled convention would jeopardize that for a lot of people.

DebDoo

(319 posts)
6. There's a split in the Clinton campaign between the die hard Clintonidtas and those who think she
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jun 2016

Should drop out because of her vast legal problems.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
11. This is the natural progression of things...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jun 2016

There is always campaign staff who cannot/do not want to burn bridges and be viable for future employment opportunities. There will be a lot of staff who need jobs past July

renate

(13,776 posts)
13. my humble opinion, which isn't even worth two cents
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jun 2016

... is that Bernie should be gracious in defeat. If the email/servers thing goes away, and I assume it will, there is no feasible way he'll suddenly sway the Democratic establishment superdelegates to go back on what they've said on the record about supporting Hillary. (If the email/servers thing doesn't go away, I hope she'll have chosen her VP carefully.)

He has done an absolutely-fricking-amazing thing, going from invisibility to making a very, very strong challenge to someone who has been the third face of the Democratic party for decades (and was the second face of it for a decade before Obama, come to think of it). I am so proud of him and so proud to support him.

But he really doesn't have a chance of getting the nomination. I wish he did, but he doesn't. And I think he would have a much stronger position and a much better chance of getting things he wants added to the platform, and a much better chance of being an elder statesman that Hillary would listen to, if he decides to bow out gracefully. I think that--and it really saddens me to think this--he would be frittering away his position and certainly the party's good will if he doesn't concede on Tuesday.

I was so hopeful, and it really makes me so sad to see him come SO DAMN CLOSE out of nowhere but still fall barely short... but I think his chances of maintaining his position as a voice that will be listened to are decreasing by the day. And I say that with so much respect for him and for everything he's done over his entire life to be a voice for the voiceless.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. Even in the unlikely event Clinton isn't nominated, Sanders still won't be nominated.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jun 2016

There'd be a brokered convention and someone other than Sanders would be chosen by the delegates. Someone who the base of the party (particularly POC and women) would be energized about.

TeamPooka

(24,207 posts)
19. He has set the issues agenda for this election even if he's not the nom and that's a win
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:52 AM
Jun 2016

in any political world.
There's no turning back from the ideals he represents.
This is where the party is going.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. Damn, hope I do not get a hide
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jun 2016

But she is hot! And the way that dress works on her, um, bodice is out of control. And if you think me sexist, my wife of 30 years agrees! I know we are geezers...but I really love clothing that keeps the imagination in business!

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
17. So basically it is the Democrats vs non Democrats
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:53 AM
Jun 2016

Makes sense.

Hopefully the Dems will quit the campaign if he tries to continue.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
21. america hates sore losers and that is all sanders has going for him as its all nonsense
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:40 AM
Jun 2016

that even a contested convention can happen....hillary wins on the first ballot....no contest.......sanders can create chaos and use violence but that will gain him nothing but an even darker mark in history

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