2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf the media calls the nomination over before California polls close, they will hurt voter turnout
and hurt any other Democrats and issues that may be on the ballots. Not that they would care though since the mainstream media are mostly a bunch of boot-licking corporate shills.
dchill
(38,472 posts)Diminished voter turnout is their mantra.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Clinton supports job killing Free Trade what the hell it's only jobs.
She supports Fracking for oil profits and to hell with the water quality for the peons.
She doesn't believe those suffering in pain should get medical marijuana because her friends at Big Pharma don't get a cut.
Clinton has supported wars that have killed over a million people and, unlike most people having empathy, supports cluster bombs that are particularly deadly to children.
Skink
(10,122 posts)2 Pm pst.
Atleast it will probably be the HRC crowd that stays home.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The drama. The investigations. Bill. The Foundation.
All of it generates big bucks for media.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)I'm right there with ya.
LexVegas
(6,059 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)while I was driving home from work at 5:00 PM.
So now many of us vote permanently absentee. I voted for Hillary weeks ago.
still_one
(92,138 posts)been voting in California for more than 30 years, and I have NEVER missed an election.
I also do what you do upaloopa, I am a permanent absentee DEMOCRATIC voter
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)still_one
(92,138 posts)still_one
(92,138 posts)the presidential primary. There is Barbara Boxer's Senate seat, various assembly seats, propositions, and initiatives.
Are you from California?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Be a deciding factor in voting. Clinton only needs a few. California knows their vote won't make a difference. They will choose to vote or not. Calling it isn't a factor.
onenote
(42,694 posts)Seriously, why does declaring a winner hold down the votes of the loser's side more than the winner's? Logic would suggest that both have at best equal reasons to pass up voting.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and we have known of this in the United states since the 1980 Reagan Carter election.. though I am not surprised you have not heard of this, It's not like the US Press explains this.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)that is what they want
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Time To TURN THEM OFF...
msongs
(67,395 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I don't think that they care about voter turnout in the Western states. They'll want to have the breaking news moment. After all, it will be a historical nomination. The first woman to be the nominee of a major political party is as historical as Obama's nomination was in 2008.
MFM008
(19,805 posts)if she had gotten there. The minute she reaches the magic number its going to be
P R E S U M P T I V E N O M I N E E Hillary Clinton
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)..or have their votes counted on the same day.
Registered Democrats should receive ballots from their state parties; vote in the privacy of their home; and return the ballot by mail. Votes should be counted by a third party accounting firm. If it were up to me, winning candidates would be determined by votes and there would not be delegates. Alternatively, there would be one delegate per congressional district, and the candidate with the majority of elected delegates would win.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)But I'll be damned if I know what to do about it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)They know Clinton wins well before they even start voting. This makes no sense.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)In general, though, I think it's problematic for states to be called while the polls are still open. Whether it's a primary or the night of the general election. The media calling contests before the polls close can hinder turnout, especially for the person who the media reports being the loser. Sure, some supporters of the winner won't bother to vote, but I would think the supporters of the loser are more demoralized (and less inclined to bother voting).
Regardless of which candidate one supports, there are questionable aspects of the political process. Caucuses, superdelegates, the media calling a contest before polls close, campaign financing, etc.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Before California is done. New Jersey on east coast will give it to Clinton. When jersey polls close and is called Clinton nominee then the argument is California is still open.
Well, so, isn't like everyone doesn't already know jersey will put her over.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)So, I suppose I'm making a separate point, which is just that I don't think a contest should be called before the polls close. But the media is all about being the first to report something, and I don't see that changing.
As far as the Clinton vs. Sanders race, it was clear by mid-March that Clinton would end up with more pledged delegates.
KULawHawk
(97 posts)the media cares about the process or even that they haven't already been fed and rehashing the same narrative of her being the nominee from day 1.
senz
(11,945 posts)Of course it would be a lie. But that doesn't stop them anymore.