2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders campaign accused of stealing two ballot boxes in PR prisons
This is in the context of their complaints of the Democratic Party rigging the election in prisons for Hillary. The facts show something very different.
"The claim that the Democratic Party is delaying the certification of the Sanders' poll workers is preposterous. The first complete set of pollworkers for tomorrow's primary we have certified were all from the Sanders Campaign."
Prats also said certifying poll workers is out of the hands of the party and that the Sanders campaign did not allow much time before it began accusing the party of fraud.
"Inmate voting is handled not by the Democratic Party but by the Commonwealth's Absentee and Advance Vote Administrative Board," Prats said. "I have been told that the Sanders campaign submitted their prison pollworker list at 6:10 pm on the evening prior to inmate voting and began complaining early in the following morning that the Board had not completed their pollworker's certification. But in the end, despite the late submittal, the Sanders campaign had representatives at the prison voting places."
He also accused the Sanders campaign of stealing two boxes of ballots that had been cast by prisoners before delivering them to an election office.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/282237-puerto-rico-democratic-party-denies-wrongdoing-in-primary
I knew Clinton would win big when Sanders people started complaining about fraud in PR even before the election. That's what they do when they know they will lose. Their polling obviously showed them tanking.
merrily
(45,251 posts)When the Sanders campaign is accuse of something, it's gospel.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)When the Hillary campaign is accused of one thing after another, it's insane conspiracy theories.
When the Sanders campaign is accuse of something, it's gospel.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely nothing. So the point of your reply to me escapes me.
Very few of the complaints about election fraud against Hillary originated with the Sanders campaign and even less from party officials. They came in the first instance from voters and caucus workers.
dchill
(38,464 posts)And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go to?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may say yourself, "My God! What have I done?"
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again in to the silent water
Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
Talking Heads, Once In A Lifetime
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It's called, "Projection". It like a confession of sorts. They do it on a daily basis. Her campaign already wreaks of desperation and we are still in the primaries.
dchill
(38,464 posts)Than a 100 year old movie theater ever saw.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)thus we see this desperation
here is the poll questions 21&22
https://gqrr.app.box.com/s/xcuxiz76cj9ff0a5v4a1ruwo9gl0u566
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)would I be incorrect in saying there's a certain amount of tone deafness to it?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)And, another straw man dies needlessly. O! The strawmanity!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Either that, or it's sexist.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Can never be too sure.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)over the place. Disgusting!
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)sheshe2
(83,710 posts)I seems they are making a joke about it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)surrounding his campaign.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Wait for the mess to truly be revealed, but this is more like it. Sanders dropping the ball. Let's see what else comes out.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Say it ain't so...again
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The other one was shot down in minutes.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it's big. but cannot find it. Silly me...
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)will correct the OP now.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)becuase I am really looking at local media, and I have come pretty empty. This would be classic for Mexico too.
merrily
(45,251 posts)KULawHawk
(97 posts)You want to discuss fraud?
Too bad the Denver Post already exposed the DNC and Clinton campaign attempting to defraud the Colorado results. 10 precincts of at least 4% of Sanders' votes.
Just enough to give her control of the state delegation when superdelegates would give her more overall delegates than him even though he won Colorado by 68%.
While the Democratic Party knew about the discrepancy a week after the caucus, it chose not to correct the public record, according to the Denver Post. For some reason, the Hillary Clinton campaign knew about the problem, but the Sanders campaign was not informed until late Monday by the Denver Post.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/03/breaking-major-vote-counting-error-in-democratic-primary-discovered-sanders-picks-up-delegates-video/
MinnesotaRob
(53 posts)It works fine for the Republicans, they've seen them use this playbook to "elect" terrible candidates for decades, now it's Their Turn.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...from his position as chair of the PR Democratic Party.
I don't trust him or his accusations.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)now he's been creeping around stealing ballot boxes - and we're supposed to believe this
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And I mean Puerto Rico
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I see it's become the gold standard for some campaign supporters
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Ah surprised... NOT
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)so I did a Google search then 2 things came up Reddit and DU
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)The stories out of Puerto Rico are contradicting each other.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)How is Hillary polling with Hispanics in CA ?