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BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:01 AM Jun 2016

Sanders campaign accused of stealing two ballot boxes in PR prisons

This is in the context of their complaints of the Democratic Party rigging the election in prisons for Hillary. The facts show something very different.



"The claim that the Democratic Party is delaying the certification of the Sanders' poll workers is preposterous. The first complete set of pollworkers for tomorrow's primary we have certified were all from the Sanders Campaign."

Prats also said certifying poll workers is out of the hands of the party and that the Sanders campaign did not allow much time before it began accusing the party of fraud.

"Inmate voting is handled not by the Democratic Party but by the Commonwealth's Absentee and Advance Vote Administrative Board," Prats said. "I have been told that the Sanders campaign submitted their prison pollworker list at 6:10 pm on the evening prior to inmate voting and began complaining early in the following morning that the Board had not completed their pollworker's certification. But in the end, despite the late submittal, the Sanders campaign had representatives at the prison voting places."

He also accused the Sanders campaign of stealing two boxes of ballots that had been cast by prisoners before delivering them to an election office.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/282237-puerto-rico-democratic-party-denies-wrongdoing-in-primary

I knew Clinton would win big when Sanders people started complaining about fraud in PR even before the election. That's what they do when they know they will lose. Their polling obviously showed them tanking.
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Sanders campaign accused of stealing two ballot boxes in PR prisons (Original Post) BainsBane Jun 2016 OP
When the Hillary campaign is accused of one thing after another, it's insane conspiracy theories. merrily Jun 2016 #1
This is from representatives in Puerto Rico, not the Clinton campaign BainsBane Jun 2016 #8
Let's see exactly what my post said about the source of the complaints against either campaign: merrily Jun 2016 #13
Don't know why, but a song occurs to me... dchill Jun 2016 #27
It's how we know what they are doing AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #15
More projection... dchill Jun 2016 #28
apparently Hillary in't exactly polling well with Latino's in CA azurnoir Jun 2016 #17
HOLLLEEE SHIT nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #23
If that's the case trying to influence the Latino vote in CA by using Puerto Rico azurnoir Jun 2016 #25
This isn't some unknown Tweeter. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #34
Then good thing my post didn't say it a thing about the tweeter. merrily Jun 2016 #35
Damn autocorrect. It changed one letter and my intentions. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #36
Autocorrect has a well-known liberal bias. merrily Jun 2016 #37
Possibly. We are talking about a corporate device. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #38
Seems like folks are very seriously trying to disenfranchise our brown brothers and sisters all bravenak Jun 2016 #2
Sure looks that way. BainsBane Jun 2016 #9
Actually. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #30
Not funny bravenak Jun 2016 #31
interesting how these messes keep coming up MFM008 Jun 2016 #3
When I heard all 40 of their people denied I knew they weren't giving us the story. We will have to seabeyond Jun 2016 #4
No...really? Sanders campaign fucked up campaign rules again and try to blame others? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #14
another shiny object from Brock! grasswire Jun 2016 #5
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he is the catalyst. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #16
Funny, you intend to give a link? You'd think the local Puerto Rico media woudl be on this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #6
an oversight. It's the Hill BainsBane Jun 2016 #7
Thanks nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #10
Not to worry. Soon, they'll be told what to say. merrily Jun 2016 #19
Has anyone explained this yet? KULawHawk Jun 2016 #11
Sure it's been explained: "conspiracy!", "egomaniac!", "sore loser!" MinnesotaRob Jun 2016 #29
This is a guy who told people to vote for Clinton Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #12
First we're told Puerto Rico closed 2/3 of it's polling places @ Sander's er request azurnoir Jun 2016 #18
It would be a BFD, nada in the local news. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #20
Thank you I know the ballot box stuff started as a Reddit rumor last night azurnoir Jun 2016 #21
So that is where it came from nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #22
yep last night (Saturday) it included in an editorial comment written by the OP of an LBN thread azurnoir Jun 2016 #24
Because I remember the "English only" untruth, I'll wait for more facts to clear the smoke. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #26
Yet another lie . TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #32
And throwing chairs! Doctor_J Jun 2016 #33

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. When the Hillary campaign is accused of one thing after another, it's insane conspiracy theories.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:02 AM
Jun 2016

When the Sanders campaign is accuse of something, it's gospel.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Let's see exactly what my post said about the source of the complaints against either campaign:
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jun 2016
When the Hillary campaign is accused of one thing after another, it's insane conspiracy theories.

When the Sanders campaign is accuse of something, it's gospel.


Oh, yeah. Absolutely nothing. So the point of your reply to me escapes me.

Very few of the complaints about election fraud against Hillary originated with the Sanders campaign and even less from party officials. They came in the first instance from voters and caucus workers.

dchill

(38,464 posts)
27. Don't know why, but a song occurs to me...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:06 AM
Jun 2016
And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go to?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may say yourself, "My God! What have I done?"

Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again in to the silent water
Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground


Talking Heads, Once In A Lifetime
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
15. It's how we know what they are doing
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jun 2016

It's called, "Projection". It like a confession of sorts. They do it on a daily basis. Her campaign already wreaks of desperation and we are still in the primaries.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
25. If that's the case trying to influence the Latino vote in CA by using Puerto Rico
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:50 AM
Jun 2016

would I be incorrect in saying there's a certain amount of tone deafness to it?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. Then good thing my post didn't say it a thing about the tweeter.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jun 2016

And, another straw man dies needlessly. O! The strawmanity!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. Seems like folks are very seriously trying to disenfranchise our brown brothers and sisters all
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jun 2016

over the place. Disgusting!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. When I heard all 40 of their people denied I knew they weren't giving us the story. We will have to
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:17 AM
Jun 2016

Wait for the mess to truly be revealed, but this is more like it. Sanders dropping the ball. Let's see what else comes out.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
14. No...really? Sanders campaign fucked up campaign rules again and try to blame others?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:52 AM
Jun 2016

Say it ain't so...again

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. Funny, you intend to give a link? You'd think the local Puerto Rico media woudl be on this
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

it's big. but cannot find it. Silly me...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Thanks
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jun 2016

becuase I am really looking at local media, and I have come pretty empty. This would be classic for Mexico too.

 

KULawHawk

(97 posts)
11. Has anyone explained this yet?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jun 2016

You want to discuss fraud?

Too bad the Denver Post already exposed the DNC and Clinton campaign attempting to defraud the Colorado results. 10 precincts of at least 4% of Sanders' votes.
Just enough to give her control of the state delegation when superdelegates would give her more overall delegates than him even though he won Colorado by 68%.



While the Democratic Party knew about the discrepancy a week after the caucus, it chose not to correct the public record, according to the “Denver Post.” For some reason, the Hillary Clinton campaign knew about the problem, but the Sanders campaign was not informed until late Monday by the “Denver Post.”


http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/03/breaking-major-vote-counting-error-in-democratic-primary-discovered-sanders-picks-up-delegates-video/
 

MinnesotaRob

(53 posts)
29. Sure it's been explained: "conspiracy!", "egomaniac!", "sore loser!"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:10 AM
Jun 2016

It works fine for the Republicans, they've seen them use this playbook to "elect" terrible candidates for decades, now it's Their Turn.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
12. This is a guy who told people to vote for Clinton
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jun 2016

...from his position as chair of the PR Democratic Party.

I don't trust him or his accusations.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. First we're told Puerto Rico closed 2/3 of it's polling places @ Sander's er request
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:30 AM
Jun 2016

now he's been creeping around stealing ballot boxes - and we're supposed to believe this

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. Thank you I know the ballot box stuff started as a Reddit rumor last night
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:33 AM
Jun 2016

I see it's become the gold standard for some campaign supporters

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
24. yep last night (Saturday) it included in an editorial comment written by the OP of an LBN thread
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:46 AM
Jun 2016

so I did a Google search then 2 things came up Reddit and DU

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
26. Because I remember the "English only" untruth, I'll wait for more facts to clear the smoke.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jun 2016


The stories out of Puerto Rico are contradicting each other.
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