2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie has two ways forward if Clinton gets a majority of pledged delegates on Tuesday
1) Try to take the campaign to the convention and convince the delegates not legally pledged to a candidate on the first round of voting to vote for him instead: the superdelegates. Reagan did this in 1976 in the GOP under somewhat similar situation (Ford had a majority of pledged delegates, but not enough to secure the nomination without legally uncommitted delegates) and almost wrested the nomination away from a sitting President at an open convention. You can be be sure that Weaver knows this. The differences are that in the current situation the Democratic superdelegates have mostly already let their preferences be known, and the recent tradition in the Democratic Party is to back the candidate with the most pledged votes. The real difference is more significant: Reagan had the advantage of ardent conservatives in position of power in the GOP that had been gained by the conservative partisans that had taken increasing power since Goldwater's defeat 12 years before. Contrastingly, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is much weaker than its counterpart in the GOP in 1976. Many if not most of the superdelegates would be considered moderates and establishment by Sanders. It will be difficult to convince the mostly establishment superdelegates to change their minds.
2) Suspend the campaign in return for power in a potential position in the Clinton administration (or course not a legal quid pro quo). The most obvious thing to ask is that Bernie or a person he designates be made Vice President. Why? If he believes that the email server scandal will really take Clinton down, then having control of the VP position would make a strong case that Bernie or his designated person would become the nominee. If the email scandal is really much ado about nothing, and Hillary is elected then the VP can have the bully pulpit and maintain constant pressure on Hillary to be progressive. Of course, it is unclear that Hillary and her campaign would offer such a "deal."
3) Suspend the campaign and help defeat Trump without any conditions (is this really in Bernie's campaign's playbook?). So really 3 choices, but...
TwilightZone
(25,426 posts)He can then campaign for her and for down-ticket Democrats, because the first step to a more progressive agenda is to give the president a more amenable Congress.
This probably isn't as complicated as many would like to believe.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)as is campagining for dems who showed they are no progressives by supporting clinton.They all fully embraced clinton's neocon neoliberal corporate agenda.
CLinton is enemy of everything bernie and his supporters support and fight for.
TwilightZone
(25,426 posts)If Sanders is true to his word, he will support Clinton in the general election.
If he wants to move the agenda to the left, he'll support down-ticket Democrats as well, even the 95% of them that you don't like. The first step to a more progressive agenda is getting a Congress that is more amenable to one.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)there is no place for left agenda in democratic party.that has been proven in this primary.they want a corporate neocon agenda.
CLinton and Obama prove this.
doesn't matter what he does i won't vote for clinton.she is enemy to everything i believe in and is hostile to my self intrests.
you would have to be crazy if like me you are on social safety net to vote for ms wall street.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)He decided to step forward for our cause when no one else did.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)But I just don't see how he did anyone but himself and the Republicans any good with his candidacy.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
andym
(5,443 posts)He may not like the current state of the party, but that doesn't mean he wants to cut bait with it.
randome
(34,845 posts)If he continues bad-mouthing the Democratic nominee all through the convention, he will serve no one's purpose, not even his own since he's already lost.
After 25 years in the Senate, why didn't he prepare for this by building alliances and partners? He should have laid the groundwork more than a year earlier than he started. Clinton had a head start simply because she started way before Sanders did.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)Bernie ran because our country desperately needed someone with a voice for the 99%. The Oligarchy has taken over everything. He is the ONLY voice that isn't owned. He is truly for the people. The corporate vultures have no idea how angry people are but they will when the pitchforks and torches come for them, and make no mistake, they will.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Bernie has had years to do something, but I never heard of him until about two years ago, and I've kept up with Washington since I have been registered to vote (45 years). Bernie has always been a follower. He doesn't know how to lead.
andym
(5,443 posts)Given that the superdelegates are mostly comfortable with the status quo and are the "establishment"?
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)We have to start local and take it back. It will take time, it might be too late for the planet already though. They did all of this while we sat back and said, but the republicans are worse. I despise the people who are using fear and hold your nose party unity bullshit. They are WHY we are in this horrendous situation. No more insanity for me.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)they proved that during this primary.you can't fight oligarchy in democratic party when clintons are in pocket of them.
apcalc
(4,462 posts)Could have run for president any number of times previously, I wonder why he did this now...
Any thoughts?
I am thinking several things....
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)will of the other delegates.
For him to even suggest this shows that he argues for his own good and not on principle.
randome
(34,845 posts)The Oligarchy has nothing to do with Clinton winning the nomination.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)an enduring organization to support progressives using the strategies that propelled his campaign.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Oh, his strategies haven't worked out so well.
andym
(5,443 posts)The question is how best can he remain in the limelight to accomplish this?
That is so important
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)and great people are all ready working to attract and support candidates that believe in real progressive values.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Getting hung up on particular candidates or delegate math is counterproductive. The only way we'll get the progressive change we need is by lobbying our nominee and new president unceasingly, because Big Money will be whispering in her/his ear 24/7.
This is the only useful definition of "forward."
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Hold your nose and vote for Clinton in November, but help lay the groundwork for systemic change by organizing at the local level. That's my suggestion.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He needs to concede when it is clear to everybody that he has lost. If he bows out gracefully, it is very possible he will be given a position to help effect policy decisions. If not, then he becomes irrelevant. It's all in his hands.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)(2) It is likely that Clinton will ask someone the left likes anyway, say Warren. That would strengthen Warren's chances.
(3) Sanders playbook appears to be to build a movement. Whatever he does, it will be aimed at strengthening the left.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)The first woman president is not going to have conditions to her candidacy.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)That's a steaming pile of bullshit right there.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It's not quid pro quo or back room dealing. When HE does it it's okay, but no one else of course. HA
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Because that's what a politician is when he claims he's an "outsider" and a "populist" and then tries to make backroom deals for his own benefit.