How the fuck can you control hundreds and hundreds of supers to keep quiet about their candidate?

[joshcryer]

Please. Tell me. How you keep every single one from announcing their intention to reporters?

This is so fucking dumb.

[onenote]

1. Apparently it should be illegal for supers to open their mouths

and illegal for the press to report what they say.

Because free speech and freedom of the press are so not part of the revolution.

[joshcryer]

2. This actually shows the Clinton camp failed to keep grips.

That they obviously couldn't stop those 40 supers from announcing.

All the AP did was its job. Call up every super and ask their intention.

[DURHAM D]

3. Did anyone provide a list of those that

declared today.

[joshcryer]

5. All the news orgs have their own lists.

[DURHAM D]

8. So its a secret?

From the way the NBC news guy was talking earlier to Rachel they don't have a real list. They are speculating and trying not to look like they are 10 steps behind AP.

[joshcryer]

12. I'm trying to find a public list.

Wikipeda has one but I can't find it. In theory all you have to do is look for the ones who haven't decided.

[DURHAM D]

16. I found it - doesn't look up to date.

Only AP knows who they are.

[joshcryer]

21. Probably.

But I know I saw a named list somewhere.

[Hiraeth]

7. Call up every super and ask their intention.

they did this in past elections?

never heard so much talk about supers before.

[joshcryer]

13. AP has been polling them for years.

[Hiraeth]

26. and BOY HOWDY. it really has been the SUBJECT for all past primaries ...

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oh. and. emails.

[TeamPooka]

32. Who said they must be silent? 1st Amendment rules.

[leftinportland]

4. Let's start with them keeping their mouths

shut at least until after the first primary.

[joshcryer]

6. How do you make that happen?

[onenote]

10. Repeal the first amendment?

Oh,I suppose you could say that if you're going to be a super you have to agree not to endorse a candidate until after the first primary. But since the whole point of supers is that they are free to make a decision independent of the primary results (isn't that the heart of Bernie's argument about flipping them), what is the logic of gagging them before the first primary?

[Doctor Jack]

14. The supers are mostly elected democrats

and they count as one of their delegates when they endorse a candidate. You would want no democrats to endorse any candidate until after the iowa caucuses? They aren't allowed to publicly state who they want to vote for, like every other citizen in the country is free to do?

[SheenaR]

9. Don't you all remember that famous Super Bowl

Where the team was up by 400 points before the other team was even announced.

Or that World Series where it was 400-0 entering the first inning with only one team scheduled to play.

Fuck Supers

[onenote]

11. But if supers are free to change their minds, why should it matter when they announce?

[SheenaR]

18. You don't think that the weighted distribution

Of the Supers being included in delegate totals since before Iowa matters? If you don't that's fine. I think it matters very much to the casual voter who assumes this race is already over when they see such numbers.

Just my thoughts.

[onenote]

27. That suggests they shouldn't be announced at any time

If instead of 400 supers being announced before Iowa, they were announced the day after Iowa, don't you think that would have as much, probably more impact?

[joshcryer]

17. I think supers should be abolished.

But this is still stupid.

[Doctor Jack]

23. The problem is that the over 700 supers are mostly elected democrats

Anytime they say publicly that they support a certain candidate, they count that toward the candidate's delegate total. You either want elected democrats to keep their mouths shut and unlike all of us, wouldn't be allowed to talk about who they support in an election. Or the media could not count them but other sources would and there would be a lot of well know, "unofficial" delegate counts. Of course we could just get rid of the supers but that would mean that clinton would clinch the nomination tomorrow with the majority of pledged delegates and Sanders would have 0 chance to win.

[MinnesotaRob]

15. Well you could have started a year ago by calling out the MSM for including supers in delegate cnts

[randome]

19. So dumb it makes dumb people look smart.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Logical]

20. Simple, make a rule where they cannot commit until the convention. Even you should be able to...

Understand that

[joshcryer]

31. I'm asking about the current rules.

We shouldn't even have them.

[U4ikLefty]

22. Simple, if they announce early they lose their SD status.

[Recursion]

24. Which is why we shouldn't let Reps & Senators be super delegates

Limit it to the chair, vice chair, and secretary of each state party. They, at least, can be relied on to keep their mouths shut if DNC tells them to.

[joshcryer]

30. We should just get rid of supers.

Can't stop normal people from talking to reporters.

[morningfog]

25. Super delegates: so fucking dumb. Yes.

[KittyWampus]

28. The AP can talk to SD's but to "call it" for Hillary on MONDAY night before big polling days?

It is only going to play into the bogus 'rigged' narrative.

It undercuts Clinton's very real, historic victory.

I am pissed.

[joshcryer]

29. I said it was stupid.

I'm sure Clinton didn't want this.