Yesterday I spoke with two downticket Democrats here in Wisconsin. They're devastated ...

[Scuba]

... that Hillary is going to be our candidate. No coattails.

They're pinning their hopes on Russ Feingold driving turnout here.

In 2012, with President Obama leading the ticket, we elected strong progressive Tammy Baldwin to the US Senate. With Russ running against Ron Johnson, we need those coattails again.

I wouldn't expect Russ to be as candid as the two candidates I spoke with, but will note that Bernie carried Wisconsin by 18%.

[BobbyDrake]

1. From the same people who lost to Scott Walker twice...

Maybe if they stopped pretending they were already a majority, and worked to bring people to their side instead of assuming they'll join them, they might have better luck.

Bernie carried Wisconsin because of Republican crossover. That was the same primary that FAILED to elect the Democratic state supreme court justice. You know, when 11% of "Bernie supporters" didn't vote for a single down-ticket Democrat!

[okieinpain]

4. +1 n/t.

[LuvLoogie]

8. I thought it was actually 14 %

[joshcryer]

12. It was 11%:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027744062

[LuvLoogie]

35. Still significant.

[joshcryer]

38. Yes, sad, really.

[joshcryer]

11. That was crappy point of that campaign, particularly the youth vote.

Some of those kids won't get a chance to vote out that conservative judge until they're 28. Their entire young adult life with a psychopath for a judge.

But fucking Scott Walker has never won a GE, his seat is in off election years. GOTV sucks.

[PeaceNikki]

13. Exactly.

Democrats here really don't show up well outside of the GE. The time it takes to vote in the inner city has a LOT to do with that.

[joshcryer]

14. God I wish you guys would just recall that SOB...

...and run the election right during a GE.

Watch how quick he loses.

[PeaceNikki]

16. That was my biggest beef with the timing of the recall. There was no WAY would could do it

outside of the GE.

We came close, but like they say...

[Hiraeth]

29. and those Republicans will vote for Trump. derp.

[Jaybird]

49. So true n/t

[Kentonio]

50. You seem to be confused, getting Republican votes is what helps win Presidential elections.

[still_one]

56. Actually three times. One for the recall

[NCTraveler]

2. What are their names?

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I would love to research if their seats are safe or not. If not, as a Clinton supporter, I will send them some money if they are solid candidates.

[PeaceNikki]

17. I, too, would be interested to know of whom he's speaking.

[liberal from boston]

47. Senator Sanders

Bernie is splitting his donations with Russ Feingold, Tim Canova & other progressive candidates.

[PeaceNikki]

48. That's cool, but I want to know which 2 WI candidates that the OP is talking about.

[1StrongBlackMan]

30. I doubt you would get the names ... But for, the google.

[apcalc]

3. She will win Wisconsin over Trump.

They should be fine to be elected.

[yourout]

51. not.a.chance

[PeaceNikki]

5. 13.5%, still a solid win, but not 18%

We always rock in GE's and we'll do it again.

[sufrommich]

6. Uh huh. nt

[joshcryer]

7. Tammy Baldwin endorsed Clinton.

[PeaceNikki]

9. She did, she's one of my favorite Dems ever.

[LuvLoogie]

10. Or she would have been turned into a newt.

[LexVegas]

15. Cool story bro. nt

[bigdarryl]

18. Wisconsin has more problems than Hillary.They cant even

Defeat Scott Walker.

[whatthehey]

19. I'm not sure I'd talk about coattails if I were in WI.

Doesn't seem to be much ideological spillover there to lower races. Not the good kind anyway.

[Robbins]

20. after this primary

I am not so sure i would call Tammy Baldwin a strong progressive.early on she endorsed clinton.although i believe she voted
against tpp she underminded that vote by supporting the covert pro-tpp candiate Clinton.

[PeaceNikki]

21. Tammy Baldwin a strong progressive.

[yourpaljoey]

22. Baldwin is no progressive.

[PeaceNikki]

23. What do you know about her other than she pledged HRC?

[Andy823]

37. I don't think they know anything

This is all about not voting for anyone who supported Hillary, and that's just BS from the word go. Now if these people are really right wing trolls, or Trump trolls, that's one thing, but if they are "real" Democrats, Liberals, or Progressives, and they are going to act this way, they have a serious problem with reality.

My view is the trolls are going to get in every shot they can between now and the 16th to do their job of trying to get people here on DU to NOT vote for any Democrat in November, and the new meme must be that if they supported Hillary, you can't vote for any of the down ticket Democrats. Nothing but right wing talking points being used here on DU. I will be glad when the trolls go back under their bridges till the next election.

[joshcryer]

39. Same thing Sanders "supporters" knew about John Lewis...

...Dolores Huerta, Elizabeth Warren, Barney Frank, Al Franken, and many many others that they have chosen to shit on because of their endorsement (or at least in Warren's case, lack thereof; but soon to be endorsement anyway).

[PeaceNikki]

40. I know. Actually the Dolores Huerta one got me equally as pissed.

[PeaceNikki]

24. Seriously, "pal". Look up her record, her votes, her positions and ratings.

Put them side-by-side to Sanders and tell me where the hell anywhere in that data, she is not progressive.

You can't. Because she is and you're calling her that only because you're bitter and angry.

Move the fuck on and leave the solid progressives in my state alone. We have a lot of REALLY bad politicians here in WI, she's not one of them. And if you look, really look, you'll see how she helps us all in the Senate.

[NCTraveler]

25. It's really sad what they are attempting to do to excellent progressives. nt.

[PeaceNikki]

28. It's fucking infuriating when they go after people like Baldwin.

I know it's not the first time and won't be the last, but Baldwin & Feingold hold a very special place in my heart. Go after either of them and it's ON.

[Scootaloo]

31. Hypocrite much, NCTraveler?

[NCTraveler]

32. Not that I am aware of Scoot.

Though we all have a bit of it in us.

[Scootaloo]

33. Well, it's just been you've been trashign Bernie at every turn for anything that pops into your head

For an entire year. So... you know, maybe you'll want to consider your own posting record regarding a good progressive.

[NCTraveler]

36. I have also regularly praised Sanders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512123864

Your selective outrage is kind of funny.

This is what gets you going around calling people a hypocrite. lol.

Additionally, I have trashed Clinton for some of her votes and statement. I have done so in this primary season. These are things I don't expect you to understand. What you define as hypocrisy is actually consistency. I wish you recognized that. It would go a long way to making conversation more productive here.

Thank you for telling me what to consider.

[onenote]

42. You might want to take that up with the OP.

He seems to have no problem describing Baldwin as a progressive. In fact, his exact words were "strong progressive". ANd he's a Sanders supporter.

[PeaceNikki]

43. Scuba knows damn well that she is.

[onenote]

45. Yep. And kudos to him for acknowledging it.

[Skwmom]

26. The Corporate Democrats don't need Democrats. They have their Corporate Republican buddies that

the will reach across the aisle to, deliver for the 1%, and sell it as bi-partisanship. And the Big Con will continue on ...

[HooptieWagon]

53. DWS call RW Republicans her friends,...

And endorsed them after refusing DCCC support to their Democratic challengers.

[NCTraveler]

27. Kick for an answer to post #2. Seems to be a hit and run. nt.

[redstatebluegirl]

34. Tell me who they are and I'll send them money and contact friends and family in Wisconsin

who will help get out the vote. Of course if you don't tell us who they are then....

[Scuba]

46. Go to Act Blue Wisconsin and donate. Thanks.

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/democracydive


Of course I wont violate their confidence by naming them. But then you knew that.

[beachbum bob]

41. and hillary will beat trump by same margins

don't fool yourself.....

[onenote]

44. I suggest your downticket contacts talk to Tammy

She endorsed Clinton. As did two of the other three (and there are only three) Democratic members of the House of Representatives from Wisconsin. And the third hasn't endorsed anyone. In short, among the Wisconsin congressional delegation, Sanders is 0 for 4.

[Whimsey]

52. General elections are not primaries

My god - Wisconsin backed Cruz! Hillary will have much bigger coattails than Bernie in a general election.

[Agnosticsherbet]

55. With Scarborough 's dire warning: RETRACT TRUMP ENDORSEMENTS *NOW* OR PERISH, should ease

their fears. Republicans are in a panic. That will be good for Democrats.

As seen here at DU: Scarborough issues dire warning to Republicans: RETRACT TRUMP ENDORSEMENTS *NOW* OR PERISH

[yourout]

57. Voter ID alone will hand it to Trump let alone Hillary fever induced Republican turnout.

And she will drag Russ down with her.

We are looking at a 5 to 10 point beating.

[lunamagica]

58. Again, please, provide their names

TIA!

[Scuba]

59. Again, I would never violate their confidence by doing that.