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larkrake

(1,674 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:13 AM Jun 2016

I cannot dismiss the niggling thought that the RNC will change their convention rules so they can

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by In_The_Wind (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

dismiss Trump and put in Jeb or Romney, or another establishment candidate. They have ample ammunition to boot Trump, with his fraud conviction alone.

If that happens, the tables will be turned on Democrats and we will need every vote.

Seems to me Trump is afraid and wants out. His empire is suffering greatly with his nomination and bluster and he has a history of throwing in the towel.

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I cannot dismiss the niggling thought that the RNC will change their convention rules so they can (Original Post) larkrake Jun 2016 OP
If RNC did this...be a bigger landslide for hillary...RNC would see 40% of their base (or more0 beachbum bob Jun 2016 #1
It would be like if DNC handed nomination to Bernie instead of Clinton. bigwillq Jun 2016 #2
Yep, that's the way it's headed. If they tried to push Trump out now there would be incredible RKP5637 Jun 2016 #5
Ignorant or not bigwillq Jun 2016 #6
Definitely!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #10
Actually the majority did not vote for him. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #13
My bad bigwillq Jun 2016 #14
I wonder how it would had turned out if he only had one opponent in their primaries. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #21
I have never seen the RNC consider the will of the people larkrake Jun 2016 #25
no, not the majority. most repugs are embarrassed by him, just the radicals choose trump larkrake Jun 2016 #29
No, he didn't get a majority. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #31
the real proble is if trump actually quits before the election due to some "unknown" health issue beachbum bob Jun 2016 #3
Trump is so bizarre he might wake up one morning and decide, hey, this show is over. RKP5637 Jun 2016 #8
Trump supporters wouldn't buy it. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #20
If that happened ... tRump would immediately go third party and destroy the Republicans n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #4
If that happens, the Democrats have won. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #7
with trump, dems win in a landslide. I think all republicans would be relieved if he went away larkrake Jun 2016 #16
I don't know that they will do anything, but I will never underestimate their will to try. hamsterjill Jun 2016 #9
I suspect this Trump nomination has seriously hurt the GOP brand that was already suffering Sheepshank Jun 2016 #11
Imagine if Bernie had won... JSup Jun 2016 #12
no, bernie has never been a hater and he doesnt ridicule minorities, women and an embarrassment larkrake Jun 2016 #22
Not comparing them in that manner. JSup Jun 2016 #30
What if Trump pulls a " no mas" and quits because he was being humiliated? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #15
Actually, no... brooklynite Jun 2016 #17
the establishment would love to flush tea partiers, nazis and dodo's larkrake Jun 2016 #27
What evidence is there that Trump is afraid and wants out? onenote Jun 2016 #18
If that happens the GOP is an all-out civil war. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #19
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. 99Forever Jun 2016 #23
I still don't think Trump ever wanted to be president. Orsino Jun 2016 #24
The only way Trump is not in the GE is if he wants out Txbluedog Jun 2016 #26
I dont think the donald cares what his followers believe larkrake Jun 2016 #28
Locking. However this OP is perfect for GD. Please re-post it there. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #32
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. If RNC did this...be a bigger landslide for hillary...RNC would see 40% of their base (or more0
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jun 2016

STAY HOME

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
2. It would be like if DNC handed nomination to Bernie instead of Clinton.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jun 2016

It would not be good for the party.

The parties have no choice but to nominate Trump and Clinton.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
5. Yep, that's the way it's headed. If they tried to push Trump out now there would be incredible
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jun 2016

uproars from the ignorant masses that support him.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
6. Ignorant or not
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

The majority still voted for him. The parties should respect democracy and the will of the people.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
10. Definitely!!! n/t
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jun 2016

LiberalFighter

(50,768 posts)
13. Actually the majority did not vote for him.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

He received the most votes but there were 28,054,934 votes cast for Republican candidates. Trump only received 11,676,271 of those votes.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
14. My bad
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jun 2016

He did receive the most votes from the R Candidates, so he's the preferred choice of those who voted in the R Primaries.

LiberalFighter

(50,768 posts)
21. I wonder how it would had turned out if he only had one opponent in their primaries.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jun 2016
 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
25. I have never seen the RNC consider the will of the people
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016
 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
29. no, not the majority. most repugs are embarrassed by him, just the radicals choose trump
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jun 2016
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
31. No, he didn't get a majority.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jun 2016

There were 17 candidates at one point. Many of the early states Trump won with only 15-20% of the vote, yet received the bulk of the delegates.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. the real proble is if trump actually quits before the election due to some "unknown" health issue
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jun 2016

that could cause us some real problems as trump supporters would have NO reason not to come out and vote

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
8. Trump is so bizarre he might wake up one morning and decide, hey, this show is over.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jun 2016

Time to move onto something else.

Ace Rothstein

(3,141 posts)
20. Trump supporters wouldn't buy it.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

They'd think it is some grand conspiracy to keep Trump out.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
4. If that happened ... tRump would immediately go third party and destroy the Republicans n/t
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jun 2016

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
7. If that happens, the Democrats have won.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jun 2016

I can't imagine how angry Trump supporters would be.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
16. with trump, dems win in a landslide. I think all republicans would be relieved if he went away
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jun 2016

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
9. I don't know that they will do anything, but I will never underestimate their will to try.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jun 2016

There has been discussion about running a third candidate in only a few states to jiggle the electoral college and force the election into the House. While I don't know that I'd believe that were a legitimate possibility, I take NOTHING for granted.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
11. I suspect this Trump nomination has seriously hurt the GOP brand that was already suffering
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

He will put them into a hole so big and deep and wide that it will take 4 election cycles to see the light of day. Yes, I suspect your scenario is being vigorously discussed behind closed doors. I'm betting the wish they had 400+ super delegates this time around. Didn't they just do away with Super Delegates 2 election cycles ago?

JSup

(740 posts)
12. Imagine if Bernie had won...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jun 2016

...a month ago and the DNC pushed him out in favor of an establishment candidate.

That's how well this would go over.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
22. no, bernie has never been a hater and he doesnt ridicule minorities, women and an embarrassment
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

to the majority. Trumps fans are 30% of just republicans- no one else can stomach him. He is no threat to Clinton.

Bernie has enthusiasm and the good will of 60% of all voters. It would be a totally different outcome.Republicans would do better with any other candidate except Cruz.

I think it would be more likely that Trump drops out on his own. The investigations his lies have triggered are going to lead to prison (his tax findings, University just two), his hotels are down half, his breaking of building laws are surfacing. Will he let his empire fall for a bid to be president?

JSup

(740 posts)
30. Not comparing them in that manner.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

They both have very loyal and anti-establishment supporters; that's the only comparison I am making.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
15. What if Trump pulls a " no mas" and quits because he was being humiliated?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jun 2016

brooklynite

(94,317 posts)
17. Actually, no...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jun 2016

...YES it would give them a far more stable candidate, but NO, it with fatally rupture the Republican Party and lose millions of pro-Trump voters. The Republican Party is going down with the ship this year; it's just a matter of who's on the Bridge...

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
27. the establishment would love to flush tea partiers, nazis and dodo's
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

and they would get at least half of their members voting who were not going to vote trump.

Maybe I credit the RNC with Practicality- that is a stretch

still, it looks like they are letting Trump hang himself, there is no panic, nothing

onenote

(42,539 posts)
18. What evidence is there that Trump is afraid and wants out?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jun 2016
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. If that happens the GOP is an all-out civil war. NT
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jun 2016

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jun 2016

They want Trump gone almost as much as Corpodems want Bernie to disappear.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
24. I still don't think Trump ever wanted to be president.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

Is there anyone who thought that he would actually move to DC? Maybe W made it look easy enough?

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
26. The only way Trump is not in the GE is if he wants out
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

But he risks becoming a pariah to his supporters if he quits now. The RNC is a lof of things but stupid is not one of them, they cannot afford to alienate Trump supporters anymore than The DNC can Sanders supporters.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
28. I dont think the donald cares what his followers believe
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jun 2016

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
32. Locking. However this OP is perfect for GD. Please re-post it there.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

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