Another Bernie Myth - Waiting until everyone has voted.

[Gomez163]

Many primary cycles have occurred where the election was wrapped up beforehand and there were still primaries to go. In fact that happens quite often. This is the first time that we have heard the complaint that we need to wait until everyone has voted. NO WE DON'T. HILLARY HAS RECEIVED COMMITMENTS FROM MORE THAN HALF OF THE DELEGATES. ITS OVER.

And as to flipping superdelegates? Bernie campaign aide Jeff Weaver has just admitted that THEY HAVE NOT FLIPPED ONE SUPERDELEGATE. They need to flip 400 because Bernie trails by 800 delegates. ITS OVER.

Now we find out both Obama and Biden have indicated that they are supporting Hillary. ITS OVER.

Bernie needs to do the sane thing and tomorrow concede.

[SheilaT]

1. So maybe you have been quite happy those years

when the nominee is decided before you get a chance to vote. In which case, I'd wonder why you'd bother to vote at all.

Me? I want my vote to count. I'm in New Mexico, and even though I voted last week, today is the final day.

[SFnomad]

3. The Presidential nomination isn't the ONLY thing on the ballot ... there are other races,

state propositions, local propositions, etc to vote for. It's not like your ballot only had one question on it with 2 boxes. So get real.

[SheilaT]

5. On my ballot I had about three or four

other contested races. Most of them in my primary here were running unopposed.

Come November, I will vote. I'll vote all the down ticket things, but I'm not voting for Hillary.

[SFnomad]

6. tRump will thank you for your support n/t

[TimPlo]

11. What about the Green party?

Are they not people too. Why must he vote for Clinton to stop Trump? How about if you don't vote for Stein of Green party you are helping Trump out too.

[SFnomad]

17. Because the Green Party has NO chance of winning the election, but you already knew that n/t

[AzDar]

19. Again... YOU are supporting Trump if you're supporting the candidate who LOSES to him.

[SheilaT]

25. If I don't vote for one candidate, it is NOT a vote for another one.

Or does a vote count as two, somehow?

[HERVEPA]

26. You are either being obtuse or have no concept of logic.

[SheilaT]

27. So if I don't vote for Hillary, is that an automatic vote

for Jill Stein, and also one for Gary Johnson, and for every other person on the ballot that I don't vote for?

No, it's not.

If I don't vote in the Presidential column I simply haven't voted there.

[HERVEPA]

28. Oy Vey. No it's not because they can't win.

If you don't vote in presidential, that is one less for Hillary vs. Trump which is the only race. So if in your state Hillary lost by one vote, then you are indeed supporting Trump. But you know this. You are, as I said, just being obtuse.

[SheilaT]

29. If she loses by one vote in my state,

I rather expect I wouldn't be the only potential Hillary voter who didn't vote for her.

I will not accept any blame if she loses. So far, nothing she has done has won me over.

[LanternWaste]

4. Votes are often cast on strength of conviction alone...

"I'd wonder why you'd bother to vote at all..."

Votes are often cast on strength of conviction alone, regardless of how cast in stone an election may already be; hence, I consistently vote D in every election, despite living in Texas where for all practical purposes, "the nominee is decided before I get a chance to vote..."

My vote is, in addition to a ballot, also a statement of my intent and a declaration of my conscience. I will cast it regardless of how meaningless math eventually renders it. I hope others do as well, however I also realize that many people see the math alone and nothing else, and will raise their hands in surrender as soon as the Rubicon is forded.

[Demsrule86]

10. Total crap

If you had a conscience you would do everything you could to stop Trump from hurting millions...so spare me. You folks never accomplish anything except act as spoilers...what happens to your precious revolution if Trump wins and gets five court picks? You could continue to fight for what you believe in by stopping Trump and working at the grassroots level for change, we all should. But that involves work doesn't it? Can't do that with a keyboard. Real change is hard and takes time and work but giving up is easy.

[TimPlo]

12. I voted for Sanders in primary you I assume Clinton.

So why are you voting to help Trump by voting for Clinton? She has less favorable numbers vs Trump than Sanders. So I am voting for the Green party if you don't that is your right to help Trump by voting for a candidate that only beats Trump by 1-2 points in unfavorable rating.

"If you had a conscience you would do everything you could to stop Trump from hurting millions." And that includes making sure DNC has the person who can easily beat Trump as shown by the polls.

[Demsrule86]

21. I voted in Ohio

And I actually voted for Bernie...I liked some of his ideas and knew he would never win Ohio in a million years so I thought...pull Hillary a bit left.I always intended to vote for her in the General. Bernie could never win a general...the GOP and Hillary have coddled him, he would be swiftboated out of existence in a week. Hillary won...time to accept this. and move on

[eastwestdem]

7. Everyone wants their vote to count, but realistically there are situations where races are already

decided before election day. Even in some general elections in CA, we have a known landslide or only one candidate running for certain offices. It happens. You'll see as you get older and gain more experience in the world.

[Aerows]

13. "You'll see as you get older and gain more experience in the world"

Boy, condescension is the *perfect* way to get people on your side. Have you got a side of patronizing to go with that?

You aren't doing the Democratic party or Hillary Clinton any favors with pompous responses like this one. If you are so concerned about Donald Trump, I suggest you start by not being rude to other Democrats.

[eastwestdem]

14. I've been to Sanders' rallies. I know that they are overwhelmingly young people. I'm glad

that they are interested in politics, but most of their support can be attributed to their lack of experience in knowing how government really works.

[QC]

30. Honestly, if any of the superfanz are doing any real world campaign work,

I hope they're kept away from potential voters, like maybe in a locked back room licking envelopes or something.

[Demsrule86]

9. It won't ever happen

During primary season...it is more often than not over before the voting is done.

[Lord Magus]

20. When primaries get spread across half a year some state has to go last.

The later your state is on the calendar the more likely there will already be a winner before you vote. Unless the party switches to a single nationwide primary day, that's how it'll always be.

[NurseJackie]

2. Yes indeed ...

[aikoaiko]

8. Its terribly inconvenient when a liberal like Bernie challenges establishment convention

Either way, whether Bernie concedes or not, it will be OK.

I thank Bernie for continuing his campaign and showing us the problem with the convention/practice of letting media conduct secret surveys to determine a presumptive nomination.

[runaway hero]

15. Knock it off

Do you want to win the general or not? Then stop being loud and alienating everyone.

[Gomez163]

16. Its a two way street. They keep speculating on an indictment.

And we have to play nice?? Eff that noise.

[runaway hero]

23. So be an adult

That's the same thing Trump says in regards to the buffoons rioting at this campaign stops.

[Scurrilous]

18. K & R

[democrattotheend]

22. Nobody fought harder than Hillary for that in 2008

I agreed with her then and I agreed with her now. She herself said yesterday that it wasn't over.

[Ken Burch]

24. Yes, many cycles were over before this. But, until tonight, this was still in play.

Only conservatives and conservatism would have gained if Bernie had withdrawn from the race earlier. His presence was the only reason anything progressive has been said by any Democratic presidential candidate this year.

Why couldn't you guys just leave this alone UNTIL California got to vote?