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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:12 PM Jun 2016

Why the Associated Press called the race for Hillary Clinton when nobody was looking

"Most observers expected that Hillary Clinton would be crowned the victor in the Democratic presidential primary process at some point after New Jersey voted on Tuesday. Supporters of Bernie Sanders hoped to convince the media to hold off on such an announcement until the convention or, at the very least, until after polls closed in California later Tuesday night. But everyone knew some sort of declaration was coming; Clinton was within a few dozen delegates of winning — including both winning through voting and superdelegates — and New Jersey would put her over the top.

But then on Monday evening, unexpectedly, the Associated Press sent out an announcement: Clinton was already there.

Over the weekend, Clinton won two more Democratic contests that drew her within shouting distance of clinching the nomination — the Virgin Islands and (more important) Puerto Rico. On Monday morning, she needed 23 more delegates to hit the 2,383-delegate mark that constitutes a majority for the convention. She had 1,812 pledged delegates and commitments from more than 500 superdelegates, but she was a bit short of the threshold.


What happened on Monday was that the Associated Press received commitments from enough superdelegates — just enough superdelegates, in fact — to put Clinton over the top. With 23 more superdelegates in hand, Clinton reached the 2,383 mark, and the AP made the call.

Understandably, that out-of-the-blue determination prompted even more frustration and confusion than was already expected. How was the AP sure that those superdelegates wouldn't change their minds? Why release new totals the day before the critical primaries in California? Who were the superdelegates that made the difference?

We did our best to answer those questions"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/07/why-the-associated-press-called-the-race-for-hillary-clinton-when-nobody-was-looking/

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Why the Associated Press called the race for Hillary Clinton when nobody was looking (Original Post) NWCorona Jun 2016 OP
AP wanted to beat out tv media. NT Ilsa Jun 2016 #1
Yup. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #2
sorry kids but hillary wins even all super votes are eliminated nt msongs Jun 2016 #3
Vee zee za zippadee zongz u r zinging. Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #4
How can that be? Did you see the turnout at Sanders' rallies? Something must be fishy. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #5
How does she hit 2383 without supers? (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2016 #7
Interesting article. I didn't know that Gary Hart took it to the convention in 1984, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #6
AP wanted the beat on the announcement. That's all. MineralMan Jun 2016 #8
no, Hillary planned this larkrake Jun 2016 #9
Balderdash! MineralMan Jun 2016 #10
You can really stop with the fuckin' crowned coronation and anointment. VOTERS. Voters voted for seabeyond Jun 2016 #11

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Interesting article. I didn't know that Gary Hart took it to the convention in 1984,
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jun 2016

despite being behind in the voting, and that he tried and failed to flip superdelegates.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. AP wanted the beat on the announcement. That's all.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jun 2016

They put some folks on the job of contacting super delegates and getting an up to date count. When they had that, they had the numbers, so they broke the story.

AP is a news outlet. Every news outlet wants a beat on big stories. They got it.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
10. Balderdash!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

If anything, it will cause a lower turnout of her voters in today's primaries. What you suggest is not logical at all. Tomorrow morning, she will have a significant majority of pledged delegates. She knew that. It's no benefit for her to have it called yesterday.

Check the pledged delegate count tomorrow morning. She'd have been declared the presumptive nominee based on that, anyhow.

Poppycock!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. You can really stop with the fuckin' crowned coronation and anointment. VOTERS. Voters voted for
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jun 2016

Clinton to win the primary and not enough voters voted for Sanders. Sound like piddly ass whiners trying to dismiss this woman's win, first woman nomination as if someone gave it to her and she didn't work her ass off and as if she didn't get the vote.

Grow the fuck up

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