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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:08 PM

On June the 16th Democratic Underground becomes a pro Democratic Party website again.


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Reply On June the 16th Democratic Underground becomes a pro Democratic Party website again. (Original post)
arely staircase Jun 2016 OP
eastwestdem Jun 2016 #1
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #2
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #15
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #25
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #27
auntpurl Jun 2016 #29
auntpurl Jun 2016 #28
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #42
stopbush Jun 2016 #36
PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #17
guillaumeb Jun 2016 #26
brush Jun 2016 #30
MohRokTah Jun 2016 #3
qdouble Jun 2016 #4
Name removed Jun 2016 #5
-none Jun 2016 #6
arely staircase Jun 2016 #7
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #8
arely staircase Jun 2016 #11
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #45
brush Jun 2016 #34
Raster Jun 2016 #14
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #16
Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #37
JimDandy Jun 2016 #21
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
yourout Jun 2016 #9
berni_mccoy Jun 2016 #12
SidDithers Jun 2016 #13
PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #20
joshcryer Jun 2016 #22
auntpurl Jun 2016 #33
mac56 Jun 2016 #18
LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #19
seekthetruth Jun 2016 #35
LonePirate Jun 2016 #43
Name removed Jun 2016 #23
felix_numinous Jun 2016 #24
MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #31
stopbush Jun 2016 #38
arely staircase Jun 2016 #40
seekthetruth Jun 2016 #32
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #39
arely staircase Jun 2016 #41
mountain grammy Jun 2016 #44
Ken Burch Jun 2016 #46

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:09 PM

1. How nice will that be!! nt

 

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:10 PM

2. Is it not a pro-Democratic site now?

Perhaps I missed the change?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:29 PM

15. 104 people rec'd a post explaining how it was okay for progressives to vote for Donald Trump.

 

Before it was (barely) hidden by a jury of actual Democrats and our allies.

I would say those 104 people are not Democrats nor are they our allies.

Once that crowd leaves DU, it will be a much better place.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:40 PM

25. While these 104 may or may not be Democrats, I believe

that their actions demonstrate a lack of sense.

If by progressive we mean advocating for a progressively liberal viewpoint, a vote for Trump makes no sense. He is running as a racist.

I understand the anger and frustration of people who worked hard for a candidate, but that anger and frustration was undoubtedly shared by HRC supporters in 2008. Voting against the party cannot strengthen that party and I believe that Bernie Sanders will say as much and more after the Convention.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:43 PM

27. You and I agree. There were some horrid PUMAs in 2008 that went

 

for McCain over Obama because they had lost their goddamn minds.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:45 PM

29. But very, very few.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:45 PM

28. It was absolutely shared by Hillary supporters in 08. I was one of them.

I came around by November (actually it was never in question that I would vote for him, but I wasn't HAPPY about it for a good long while) and so did the vast majority of even the PUMAs (of which I was never one).

The same thing will happen this election season. No sane person wants Trump anywhere near the WH. Even putting liberal issues aside, we can't rule out nuclear war if he's got his finger on the button. Much less keeping ACA, keeping same sex marriage, rights for women, minorities, and the disabled.

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Response to auntpurl (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:00 PM

42. True. Support for one's favorite candidate aside,

choose the better candidate. Not voting is having no voice.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:49 PM

36. Democrats are not only progressives. We are a big tent party.

To imagine that only the progressive agenda needs to be served by the D Party is ludicrous.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:30 PM

17. It is.

 

We don't dislike Hillary because she is a Democrat, we dislike her for being a neoliberal war hawk.

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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:42 PM

26. But that still begs the question:

HRC or Donald Trump? That will apparently be the choice. So which one does a voter choose and why?

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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:46 PM

30. You call her a neoliberal, since when is she calling for austerity?

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:10 PM

3. WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
















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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:11 PM

4. Will be nice to see

Many posters here hate Hillary more than Trump...will be nice when it stops being bizarro world.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:13 PM

6. Are you implying that Bernie Sanders is not running on Democratic principals?

Never mind that he is running a more honest campaign and is NOT under FBI investigation.

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Response to -none (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:16 PM

7. No. I mean GOP talking point anti Clinton Smears will no longer be allowed.

Oh happy day.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:23 PM

8. Do you think OP's such as yours which implies that Sanders voters are anti Democratic

 

will still be allowed? Bernie won my State by a wide margin and you are suggesting this very Democratic State is not really Democratic. That's actually very nasty work.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:25 PM

11. Your inference machine is broken. nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:13 PM

45. LOL ... There seems to be a lot of that happening since April 2015 ...

 

See: "Why) Why are you calling Sanders a racist?"

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:48 PM

34. Easy, you're reading a whole lot into that post that's not there.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:29 PM

14. The Hillarian echo chamber will be complete.

Get your tap shoes on... you're going to need them.

Just wait 'til "the haters" start digging into the Foundation and pay-for-play, among other things. It will become painfully apparent that all this "historical significance," i.e., selecting an abysmal candidate to satisfy their self-aggrandizing hubris comes at a price.

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Response to Raster (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:30 PM

16. and then they can publish their findings at Free Republic! But not here, since trying to help Trump

 

win isn't allowed here.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:49 PM

37. So you WANT to bury your head in the sand? Also, the argument could be made,

 

that factual criticism, is actually constructive. Interesting.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:46 PM

21. Oh pish posh. Obvious intent is obvious.

You were able to be precise here but not in the OP?

R i i i ght.

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Response to -none (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:24 PM

10. no but some of his purported supporters express their hatred

 

of the party, when they're not citing stories from Breitbart and Fox News.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:24 PM

9. Your missing a word....pro "Corporate" Democratic Party.

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Response to yourout (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:25 PM

12. This ^^^

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:27 PM

13. Good..



And I bet it'll be posting privileges before principles for the loudest of the #neverHillary brigade.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:44 PM

20. ..

 

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:54 PM

22. #PostingPrivilegesBeforePrinciples

Cowards. Big men to trash Democrats for years under a stacked jury system, hiding AA posters "uppitiness," being downright nasty beyond belief. Going to get right quiet and wait it out so they can start their shit before inauguration day. Any compromise, any kind of human decency will be rebuffed with ad hominems and downright ugliness.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:47 PM

33. Skinner says there's going to be a new moderating system in place

Hopefully the attacks like that will NOT be able to start back up again after the GE.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:32 PM

18. ---

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:44 PM

19. No, it becomes an echo chamber

for people who love income inequality, fracking, big banks, and war. No thanks.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:48 PM

35. Or for people who are more interested in a personality....

 

....than supporting ideals that are sorely lacking in the leadership of this country.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:04 PM

43. Your post perfectly summarizes this primary season, albeit not for the reason you think.

Sanders' supporters dislike Clinton for the reasons you mention. However, Clinton's supporters like her for a completely different set of reasons (not for the reasons you claim).

Similarly, Sanders' supporters like him for reasons that are different than the reasons Clinton's supporters dislike him.

You have boxed everybody into your narrow viewpoints while failing to accept that different people can view complex subjects (in this case, political candidates and their positions) and arrive at a different conclusion than one you reached.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:01 PM

24. This is a donkey

that is kicking its own ass.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:46 PM

31. It always was supposed to be this way...

and you need to understand that the Super Delegates do not vote until July 25th.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:50 PM

38. Along with every other delegate who doesn't get to vote until July 25.

And that includes the pledged delegates who are not actually bound to vote for any particular candidate, either.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:57 PM

40. Primary season officially ends are DU June 16th.

Posters will be expected to support the presumptive nominee.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:46 PM

32. More like a sounding board.....no thanks.

 

No debate, just submission. Just about the most undemocratic environment I can think of.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:53 PM

39. Did you mean a Hillary Clinton campaign website to defeat Bernie Sanders at the national convention?

 

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Response to imagine2015 (Reply #39)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:59 PM

41. Bernie's defeat is complete. At the convention he will be a strong voice for party unity.

You'll see.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:09 PM

44. I've always thought this was a pro Democratic Party website.

I'm sorry you don't. It's a sad day when arguing politics and policies is considered anti Democratic Party.

Please don't dismiss us as not being pro Democratic party just because we may favor one candidate over another.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:13 PM

46. It was always a pro-Democratic website.

 

You don't have to prefer HRC to Bernie to be pro-Democratic.

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