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angrychair

(8,678 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:16 PM Jun 2016

Who is Serving who?

In principle, I care about the Democratic Party. I call myself a Democrat. I separate the politics from the principles though. In principle, we care about the same things. In politics, not so much. Sadly, the politics has become some sort of 'Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous' horror show.

The insidious part is they will still play the game, say the right buzz words, make sweeping statements and propose legislation that appears to be on the right track until you read the fine print or all the compromise amendments. Or the legislation that was so great was actually repealed or watered down to be all but meaningless a year later.
Interesting how, over the last 20 years, the poor and middle-class have got poorer and the rich are not just wealthy but mega-wealthy.
By HRC's own account, they went from "dead broke" in 2001 (not really )
to having hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank in little more than 10 years.
That, until very recently, it was not considered insider trading for members of congress to invest in companies in a manner that will benefit them most, depending how they vote on a particular bill. FYI, they have, both Democrats and teapublicans. The STOCK Act was meant to curb it and was signed with great fanfare and a full room in 2013 but was mostly defanged in a new bill that was signed into law by PBO little more than a year later to an empty room and little acknowledgement.

Goal post moving and inconsistent funding when it comes to alternative energy R&D, climate change denial and manufacturers falsified fuel efficiency standards. The rich keep getting richer but the poor and middle-class keep footing the bill. With our money our health and our standard of living.
I could go on for pages but most of you could care less about what I have to say if you are even still reading at this point.
At the end of the day, it boils down to one point for me:

It's easy to talk about the virtues of compromise when you are not the one being compromised.

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Who is Serving who? (Original Post) angrychair Jun 2016 OP
bernie serves lockheed, does that count? msongs Jun 2016 #1
Accountability angrychair Jun 2016 #5
I guess you've made up your mind then. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #2
I've made up my mind angrychair Jun 2016 #6
Or more. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #8
Ambiguous angrychair Jun 2016 #9
UBS Wealth Management Octafish Jun 2016 #3
Yes it is Octafish laserhaas Jun 2016 #10
DURec...and some supporting but grim stats for the Working Class & Poor : bvar22 Jun 2016 #4
Excellent post bvar22 angrychair Jun 2016 #7

angrychair

(8,678 posts)
5. Accountability
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jun 2016

Do I think he could have been tougher on them for the F-35? Yes.

I think the long term interest of his constituents would be better served with him holding Lockheed more accountable for a piece of crap product.
The most important thing to take away from this is that that the burden of accountability does not rest with Sanders alone. It also rest with the senior senator from Vermont. With hundreds of other members of Congress. With the Pentagon. With the WH. With the management of Lockheed. Employees of Lockheed. You and me as taxpayers. There is more than enough blame to go around.

angrychair

(8,678 posts)
9. Ambiguous
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

I am caught between that being condescension or some other point, I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but that is hard to do that for anyone these days...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. UBS Wealth Management
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

These two make millions off UBS, thanks to Phil Gramm and their work repealing Glass-Steagall and stuff.



UBS! UBS! UBS!

per Yves Smith, Naked Capitalism, April 28, 2016:

EXCERPT...

But even allowing for the fact that some and probably most of the gains were real, you’ll see Clinton try to sell a Big Lie: that productivity gains were tied to increased worker prosperity. As numerous commentators pointed out, that story had stopped being true as of roughly 1976. Businesses once did share the benefits of productivity gains with workers, but as labor bargaining power weakened, kept it for themselves. Clinton continues with his canards, praising “open borders” as keeping inflation low. The mechanism by which inflation is contained is by restricting wage growth. A prosperous, full employment economy will feature strong growth in pay levels, and will at some point lead to pricing pressure (mind you, profit levels in the US are now so far outside historical norms that businesses could go a long way in increasing wages if they weren’t so greedy). So his low inflation story is again at odds with his effort to depict everything as rosy for average workers.

SNIP...

The large point is the Clintons have been loyal followers of the Robert Rubin school of thinking, that bankers should run the economy, not just ours but everywhere. And he and his acolytes have been extremely successful in promoting finance-friendly policies around the world. And despite the wreckage of the global financial crisis, there has been little change in either the fealty to neoliberal ideology or the power of financiers. But both are seen as less and less legitimate by broader society, which is a key first step in reducing their influence.



Funny how many "fathers and mothers" the repeal of Glass Steagall had before the crash it caused. Guess who paid the $24 trillion it cost?



Wars Without End. Millions tossed from homes. Gig Economy and McJobs Only.

It's not just American Democracy, it's a Planet Run By Banksters and Warmongers.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
4. DURec...and some supporting but grim stats for the Working Class & Poor :
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jun 2016
CHARTS: The Amazing Wealth Surge For The Top 0.1 Percent
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-amazing-wealth-surge-for-the-top-0-1-percent

Korean Free Trade Deal devastating for US Workers
(Prototype for the TPP)
What happened to the 70,000 jobs that the Korea Free Trade deal was supposed to create? They never materialized. Instead, U.S. workers lost 40,000 jobs in the first year of the agreement.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-cohen/koreaus-free-trade-agreem_b_4965492.html


Meet the TPP: Crony capitalism on a global scale
https://represent.us/action/tpp/

Obama selects former Monsanto lobbyist to be his TPP chief agriculture negotiator
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662210

"Obama Admin’s TPP Trade Officials Received Hefty Bonuses From Big Banks"
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/20/obama-admin%E2%80%99s-tpp-trade-officials-received-hefty-bonuses-from-big-banks/

Study: "Trade" Deal Would Mean a Pay Cut for 90% of U.S. Workers
http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2013/09/the-verdict-is-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp-a-sweeping-free-trade-deal-under-negotiation-with-11-pacific-rim-coun.html

Retirement: A third have less than $1,000 put away
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2014/03/18/retirement-confidence-survey-savings/6432241/

95 percent of the economy’s gains have gone to the top 1 percent
http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/10/why-conservatives-old-divide-and-conquer-strategy-%E2%80%94-setting-working-class-against-the-poor-%E2%80%94-is-backfiring/

Billionaire wealth doubles since financial crisis
http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/11/12/Billionaire-wealth-doubles-since-financial-crisis/5011384268135/?spt=hts&or=12

The Top .01 Percent Reach New Heights
http://www.demos.org/blog/9/13/13/top-01-percent-reach-new-heights

Obama Appoints Bain Capital Consultant Jeff Ziets to Top Post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662209

Obama appoints industry insider to head the FCC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024521140

The Totally Unfair And Bitterly Uneven 'Recovery,' In 12 Charts – HuffPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662029

Larry Summers Gets 'Full-Throated Defense' From Obama In Capitol Hill Meeting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014553343#post1

Wall Street will get away with massive wave of criminality of 2008 - Statute of Limitations
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/business-economy-financial-crisis/untouchables/supreme-court-ruling-a-blow-for-future-financial-crisis-cases/

Income gap widest ever: 95 Percent of Recovery Income Gains Have Gone to the Top 1 Percent
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/09/10/one_percent_recovery_95_percent_of_gains_have_gone_to_the_top_one_percent.html

Older Workers:.Set Back by Recession, and Shut Out of Rebound
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/booming/for-laid-off-older-workers-age-bias-is-pervasive.html?smid=tw-share&_r=3&

Right now, forty percent of Americans make less than the minimum wage from 1968.
http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/raise-the-minimum-wage-19/?source=search


Daily CEO Pay Now Exceeds the Average Worker's Annual Salary –
http://thecontributor.com/daily-ceo-pay-now-exceeds-us-workers-annual-salary

New Rule (Passed by Congress and signed by President Obama) signals Kiss of Death for Pensions
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100694955

Wealthy win lion's share of major tax breaks
http://www.boston.com/business/news/2013/05/29/wealthy-win-lion-share-major-tax-breaks/Ua0UyYle21EUXub7g1suCI/story.html

Wealth gap widens as labor's share of income falls
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/wealth-gap-widens-labors-share-income-falls-1B6097385

Corporate Profits Hit Record High While Worker Wages Hit Record Low
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/03/1270541/corporate-profits-wages-record/?mobile=nc


Why do we need real change in the Democratic Party?
Because THIS ^ does NOT happen by accident.
This is the product of a carefully developed Economic Plan.
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