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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:51 PM

^^Fundraiser email created 6/4 for a "surprise" event on 6/6???^^

And the url for the photo in the mailer includes the terms "hfa" for Hillary For America, and "secret win" along with the date it was created 6/4/16. Wow,

(Here's the full url of the HFA instagram pic for the mailer, which I just found, I put a space before the initial "a" and "hfa" because unbroken it would display the photo here instead of the link; photo at bottom of this post:
https:// a.hrc.onl/imageman/2016_Q2-Email/20160605_
hfa_graphic/secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png
<<<<<<<<< )

And anyone BUYS THAT as NOT preplanned???? WTF is wrong with the thinking equipment?

And no, a "normal" pre-planned press release doesn't cover it. This was created between one candidate and the major media to massively influence an election against the other candidate. The INTENTION here is quite obvious, and no, THAT IS NOT OK. Damn! How much crime against the public will people swallow? Just what is the term "SECRET WIN" supposed to mean? Normal? Ho Hum? WTeverlastingF!

That is a smoking gun, right there. It proves fraud and collusion to throw the election.

When people hear about this, in spite of the MSM blackout on it, and they are beginning to hear about it already all over social media, there will be a shitstorm in California. #SecretWin and #APretract are the big news on sTwitter today.

So, what does this tell us?

That Hillary spent last weekend planning that ridiculous Puerto Rico lie, and setting up this Surprise Coronation by the AP and NBC timed for Monday night, the night before a big multi-state election which she was losing badly in CA (and there are screenshots of local NBC polls to prove it). What a piece of work she is! And now she's going to announce what a great and historic win this is, and how "humble" she feels about it!!!!! OMG!!!

I CANNOT WAIT FOR HER SPEECH TONIGHT, TO SEE HER WALK RIGHT INTO THIS STEAMING PILE OF DOG POO OF HER OWN SNEAKY MAKING.

And here it is... the photo of our sweet little angel Hillary in her campaign's fundraiser email that they created on Saturday 6/4 to immediately churn some money on the "surprise" presumptive nominee announcement by the AP on Monday night 6/6. Notice that it proves COLLUSION with the AP because it's made to imitate a tweet of their own. And now, I understand the POTUS and VPOTUS were among the "surprise"" anonymous extra supers that were suddenly "found", so they willingly participated in this too! WTF. It's from the URL in the 1st paragraph above, on Hillary's instagram account.



Photo has been archived online in case it disappears, and I took my own screenshot of it, as I encourage all to follow the link above and do too.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sanders-supporters-cry-foul-over-ap-declaration-of-clinton-victory-2016-06-07?mod=mw_share_twitter

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-clinton-money-email-uses-images-labeled-1465266744-htmlstory.html by LA Times reporter Christina Bellantoni who 1st reported it

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/740039126037106692/pu/vid/720x1280/wTwKE3uZyNB2xXOw.mp4 url initially noticed

https://twitter.com/sparrows1981/status/740011611499429888 poll showing HRC losing

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Reply ^^Fundraiser email created 6/4 for a "surprise" event on 6/6???^^ (Original post)
Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 OP
NWCorona Jun 2016 #1
NurseJackie Jun 2016 #11
NWCorona Jun 2016 #16
joshcryer Jun 2016 #2
Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #4
joshcryer Jun 2016 #15
ljm2002 Jun 2016 #26
joshcryer Jun 2016 #35
ljm2002 Jun 2016 #36
joshcryer Jun 2016 #39
eastwestdem Jun 2016 #3
Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #7
Agschmid Jun 2016 #46
RockaFowler Jun 2016 #5
Mass Jun 2016 #6
Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #8
CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #9
Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #12
CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #18
eggman67 Jun 2016 #24
justiceischeap Jun 2016 #30
brooklynite Jun 2016 #10
Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #14
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Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #31
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Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #37
Ash_F Jun 2016 #38
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BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #41
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Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #48
FSogol Jun 2016 #51
NurseJackie Jun 2016 #53
Fumesucker Jun 2016 #54


Response to NWCorona (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:10 PM

11. The "pre-written obituary" comparison makes sense...

... but, I guess there will always be a certain segment of the population who are predisposed to believing conspiracy theories.

It's been my experience with people I've encountered in real life, that if they believe in one wacky theory, they also believe them all. Whether it's crop-circles, anti-vax, chem-trails, 9-11, JFK Assassination, Area 51 and Aliens, Faked moon landings, etc ... you name it. Show me someone who believes in one, and I'll show you someone who's likely to believe in more than one.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:18 PM

16. While I can except that comparison. That would mean that they would have one

For all the major networks then. I'm not saying this picture is anything but the file name is curious.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:54 PM

2. How do you make a screenshot of a Twitter post days before it happened?

Utterly brain dead.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:57 PM

4. It's from Hillary's instagram account.

They used it for the mailer which HFA sent out to raise money off of AP's "surprise" announcement.

The pic is still up at the link, given at the top of the posst.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:13 PM

15. The pic is of APs Twitter account calling it.



https://twitter.com/AP/status/739975278483656705

They made a screenshot of Twitter's post. How did they do this days ago?

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:53 PM

26. Well if you had read the Snopes link...

...you would know that the Twitter post itself occurred after AP called the race:

On 6 June 2016, the Associated Press reported that Hillary Clinton had "clinched" the Democratic nomination. Shortly thereafter, a Twitter user published a video about an e-mail sent by the Clinton campaign:

(...)

The video showed the e-mail on the screen; when the user clicked to save the embedded graphic, she claimed that it then showed the following filename: a.hrc.onl/imageman/2016_Q2-Email/20160605_hfa_graphic/secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png. The graphic was hosted on what appeared to be a Clinton campaign "intranet" inaccessible to the general public and probably used to host campaign-related content. According to the video, the graphic appears to have been created on 4 June 2016, two days before to the AP's pre-primary call:

(...)

It is true that the Twitter video's claims checked out. The campaign's e-mail was sent out after the 6 June 2016 call by Associated Press, and the embedded image was ambiguously titled "secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png" But "V2" implied at least two versions of the graphic existed, another of which might have shown an entirely different outcome to the 7 June 2016 primaries.


The Snopes caveat about there possibly being 2 versions does not make sense to me; furthermore, naming the file with "secret-win" embedded in the name is, shall we say, suggestive, and tends to argue against there being a different version with a different outcome.

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:47 PM

35. Snopes can't even use logic.

The first thing you have to explain is how the fuck a screen shot can be made two days before it happened.

Clue, it can't. The campaign graphics people either had a template with that name, or, my opinion, they purposefully made the file name that to fuck with everyone.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:30 PM

36. Oh of course that makes perfect sense...

..."they purposefully made the file name that to fuck with everyone."

Sure, Josh, sure. That's the simplest explanation.

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:43 PM

39. 8 files had that name.

The explanation that "secret-win" stands for "Secretary Win" and that the template had an earlier date that just so happens to be 4 which is under the 7 on the number pad gives the submitter of the file plausible deniality. Until you realize 8 files had the name in sequential order.

Anyone with brains working on the upload side would have seen it. You are being laughed at and mocked by their image team. Oh, and they are getting a confirmation that everyone irrationally hates Clinton.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:56 PM

3. 6/4 was the day Rachel Maddow said it could be called before Tuesday. A smart campaign would have

 

a backup plan. Just because the Sanders campaign didn't see it coming is just par for the course. As I said, a smart campaign would have a backup plan.

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Response to eastwestdem (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:03 PM

7. So why was Hillary so surprised?

As she claimed. What was that about, if this was routine? Clearly, it wasn't. And why refer to it as "secret win"?

This is really obvious, and the spin doesn't cover it at all.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:52 PM

46. Most of us weren't suprised.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:58 PM

5. I actually think Twitter is making this country dumber

And I'm going to leave that right there

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:58 PM

6. Because it is shocking that the campaign has planned for an event that everybody knew was happening?

We can discuss about SD and all that (this is a legitimate discussion), but we all knew Hillary Clinton will pass the bar the media consider as winning today.

The only surprise (and this is what should be discussed) is why some guy at AP, knowing that it would happen, found necessary to hound superdelegates to find 20 new ones. This is something I do not quite get. (I think this may have to do with close polls in CA)
but the fact the email was made a few days ago is not surprising.

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Response to Mass (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:06 PM

8. Then she needs to admit that she did it deliberately,

timing and all.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:08 PM

9. Smart people prepare for what could happen, smarter people get ready for what will happen.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:10 PM

12. Did smart people plan to do it with the AP logo?

Just in case the AP "found" some delegates the night before the CA election?

Right.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:26 PM

18. Since the AP is the 'gold standard' of delegate counting, yes, they mocked up graphics.

 

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Response to CrowCityDem (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:51 PM

24. And the exact text of the tweet... n/t

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Response to eggman67 (Reply #24)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:09 PM

30. All they had to do was create the graphic ahead of time, make a screengrab of the tweet

drop that into the pre-existing graphic, export that graphic, put it in the email and hit send. It takes all of five minutes if you're a good designer.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:08 PM

10. "When people hear about this, in spite of the MSM blackout on it, and they are beginning to hear..."

Your vaunted hashtag had a post 1, 3 and 6 hours ago. Nobody thinks this is a smoking gun. No voter is going to care.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:12 PM

14. Um hmm.

Nothing to see here, move along to the coronation.

Edit to add:

This is the initial tweet by the reporter for the LA Times, Christina Bellantoni.

https://twitter.com/cbellantoni/status/739994014984736768

As of now, there are:

Retweets
2,034
Likes
1,749

That's the retweets and likes of one tweet, by one poster. Nah, no interest. I'm sure there were no other tweets about it by anybody.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:36 AM

43. Update since yessterday.

The tweet in the post above is now at 2500 retweets and 2239 likes. That's high, but it's not astronomical.

But what's more unusual is this. MY one retweet was retweeted again 49 times! And I was mentioned in reference to that one tweet 18 times.

The norm: I rarely ever get mentions, and my usual is about 1 to 3 retweets, if I tweet out about 5 to 10 things a day.

So... a lot of people know what went down, and they are NOT having it and not a bit happy about it. I predict there will be a bill to pay from this theft.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:28 PM

52. they will probably shake their heads and laugh out loud at such foolishness.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:11 PM

13. Looks like planning.

 

I don't think anyone questions who has the most organized and tactical campaign.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:29 PM

19. That's all you got?

Nothing to say on the topic, check.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:56 PM

27. "AND THEIR USE OF CAPS TIPS THEIR HAND"...

...so you're tipping your hand then?

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:32 PM

20. That's a smoking gun if ever there was one

 

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:34 PM

21. Okay, I was just going to let the Bernie people unwind

But then something so incredibly stupid like this comes along.

1. You don't need to do a screenshot or save it in a secret vault. It's still sitting on her Instagram page and feeling that special kind of "love" that only a Bernie supporter can give.

2. The URL that you claim is from the actual image is complete (I'm talking 100%) bullshit

3. I received the text at around 7:30 MST on June 6, 2016 that included this image and reported the AP story.

You should just let this thread die. It's not a good reflection on your observation skills.


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Response to postatomic (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:25 PM

50. Yeah...desperationg makes you willing to believe anything. nt

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:37 PM

22. "If Clinton manages to hold him off and win the primary, it would be as a result of a low turnout...

 



Motive established:

Poll: Sanders edging Clinton out in California

A USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll released Thursday evening shows Sanders leading with 44 percent to Clinton's 43 percent.
...

But, the poll found, Clinton has a 10-point lead among those likely to vote next week, primarily due to support from older voters.

Sanders has continued to close the gap between him and Clinton and has been campaigning hard across the state.

“Bernie Sanders has tapped into a wellspring of support in the Democratic primary over the last several weeks and he’s closing with a rush,” said Dan Schnur, director of USC’s Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics, which partnered with the L.A. Times to conduct the poll.

"If Clinton manages to hold him off and win the primary, it would be as a result of a low turnout that tilts the electorate in her direction."
...
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/bernie-sanders-leads-hillary-clinton-new-poll-california


This is not a conspiracy theory.

Means, motive, and opportunity are all there.

Hillary benefited greatly. This will go down in history as one of the great all time dirty tricks and media manipulations.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:45 PM

23. Giving a hearty KICK. nt

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:53 PM

25. Got Fascism?

 

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:08 PM

29. I posted this on another thread but I'm sure it won't ring true for people who don't want it to

I've been a web developer for PETA (lots of last minute press releases going out there), PBS and NPR. If we knew something was coming down the pike, we did this thing called "preparing." That's right...we got stuff done ahead of time so when the big news dropped, we were ready to release it a moment later. It's called being organized--if you're organization is worth any salt, you're always organized and prepared for big news releases. Most well-oiled organizations don't like to scramble around trying to get things done after the fact.

It was pretty obvious after this weekend, that HRC was going to become the presumptive nominee by the latest, Tuesday. If I'm in charge of marketing, I'm telling my designers and developers to get things ready for when that happens. If this race were any closer, I'd say that Bernie's team would have been doing the same thing. Creating content for when the inevitable happens and dropping it immediately after it's been announced.

If you haven't worked in organizations that rely heavily on social media and email marketing, then maybe it's hard to comprehend doing things ahead of time.

PS: Did you know when a team goes to the World Series or the Super Bowl, they make swag for both teams, so that no matter who wins, they have the appropriate swag available at the end of the day.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #29)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:19 PM

31. And do they title it "secret win"?

And does the media outlet they choose to pre-prepare the logo for just happen to be the one to just happen to be minding their own business doing their thing, and oops! just happen to locate just enough extra supers to make it an event the night before the big election that they fear?

And then they state how surprised they are!

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:35 PM

33. Like I said, some people will see only what they want to see

What I see is a graphic designer being cute. Naming files can be boring and sometimes we put things we think are cute to amuse ourselves. But, in this case, you believe the sky is green and no matter how many blue skies I show you, you won't believe it.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:31 PM

32. You know for championship games they make 2 sets of ball caps

saying x team won. This is just more Sanders fanatics made up shit

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:35 PM

34. Hillary was planning to use that tonight.

Last edited Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Which is when the media was expected to announce this. There's a huge victory party in Brooklyn, which was all a part of the plan, too. Instead they had to roll it out a day early because of the AP announcement.

Really, it's not anything nefarious. Of course they've been planning for this moment, it has been obvious for quite some time now that after her win tonight in New Jersey she'd have had it locked up. It just happened a bit earlier than they expected.

On edit: I just realized this was the AP's graphic. I was a graphic designer at a print publication (newspaper). This was a several years ago, but once it was all about beating the competition to the Internet post we did double graphics for political, and major sports events. Which equaled more work for this salaried person, but it's the standard.

In this case, I doubt there was even an order to make a Bernie graphic. Just a rush to be the first to break the Hillary wins news. Which was reckless, IMO. Yet, it is what it is.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:40 PM

37. Very naive of people not to see that the Clinton campaign coordinated with their

 

delegates on the timing of their communication with the AP.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:43 PM

38. "Secret win"... boy they sure like secrets.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:04 AM

40. Totally unreal what just happened.

 

Polls showed Bernie was winning California until this?

What a travesty.

Unbelievable.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #40)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:06 AM

41. Oh good Lord, there are people who believe this bs? nt

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Response to BreakfastClub (Reply #41)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:06 AM

42. Which part of it do you not believe?

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #42)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:00 PM

47. How about the part where the evildoers call their secret plans "secret plans"?

 

Joshcryer's explanation makes the most sense. A filename with a date in it could easily have been mis-typed. And 'secret' could easily be someone's abbreviation for 'secretary'. Big deal. Sorry for your loss.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:42 PM

44. >>> TOLD YA SO <<<

There is now proof of collusion between the Clinton campaign, the DNC, and the media, consisting of communications between them discussing their plans, which have just come to light via the DNC hacker.

Another memo claims that they "will utilize reporters to drive a message" but do so "with no fingerprints" on the process so that the public believes the messages are coming from the reporters and not the campaign.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hacked-dnc-docs-show-ugly-connections-clinton-article-1.2676755

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #44)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:49 PM

45. Psst! It's an Associated Press photo. Says it right on the photo itself. Sorry for your loss.

 

As for the rest of your 'accusation', it's no surprise that politicians try to get their message across. Too bad.

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Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:05 AM

55. Quick! Send this evidence to Bernie! I'm sure he'll leap right on it.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:21 PM

48. Give it up.

It was sent out after the AP called it...haha.


"Hillary Clinton was careful not to claim victory ahead of all the contests Tuesday after the Associated Press declared her to have clinched the needed number of delegates to be the Democratic nominee.

But her campaign sent out a fundraising email to capitalize on the historic moment. It thanks supporters, but adds that the primary "isn't (quite) over" and urges people to "show Hillary that you have her back."

The images in the email were labeled "secret win."

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:27 PM

51. LOL, Planning ahead is now evidence of fraud?

Next time your guy's campaign should use some planning. Might help!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #51)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:39 PM

53. Good one! Nailed it!


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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Original post)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:44 PM

54. I believe the phrase is "planned spontaneity"

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