Hillary won this the hard way, she earned it.

[madaboutharry]

What a wonderful moment! She looks so happy. And so presidential.

[applegrove]

1. I loved the themes. I think she will be a winner in November if she keeps it up, which she will.

[TimPlo]

2. Back in Nov of last year

When they said she was ahead by 400+ delegates did she earn them? Because It was barely after she started running that media started saying the count of SD for her. It would been so much more a clearer win for her if she and her camp did not have to start pushing SD from the start. It basically what set the stage of a corrupt system looking more so. SD are a dishonest factor that was used by MSM to paint HRC as a front runner even before a single vote was cast. She won but I hope more people fight to get rid of both Caucuses and SD in the next primary the DNC have.

[geek tragedy]

7. I agree on getting rid of caucuses and super delegates (assuming you mean that and not San Diego) nt

[grasswire]

3. with a boost from Bill. nt

[madaboutharry]

4. She went to Yale, She was a U.S. Senator and Sec. Of State;

Why do people need to take her accomplishments away from her and demean her.?

[grasswire]

11. she would never have been a U.S. Senator and Sec State..

...had she not been First Lady. it just wouldn't have happened.

[BlueStater]

13. Making her SOS was one of Obama's biggest mistakes.

I'm kind of pissed at him for that. He campaigned as the candidate of change and then put an overexposed '90s hack in his administration, the total opposite of change. He kept the Clintons relevant in the public eye when the country was ready to move on from them.

[grasswire]

40. I don't know that he was given a choice.

The first task of a community organizer is concensus.

Perhaps that explains it.

[BlueStater]

6. She had the full support of the party from the very beginning.

I never seen a political party rally behind one candidate to the point where virtually no one bothers to run against her. Only four people and, of those four, O'Malley was the only one who was not an Independent or former Republican. Fucking ridiculous.

[Scootaloo]

18. Same thing in her Senate run.

The party told Nita Lowey to withdraw her bid for the Senate seat in 2000 so Clinton could run unopposed as Democrat.

[mylye2222]

32. Just another proof of DNC authoritarism

[Scootaloo]

5. She's a real Horatio Alger, ayup n/t

[geek tragedy]

8. No, just the first woman to win a major party nomination in United States history.

Sorry you feel the need to think small about a big moment.

[reformist2]

10. I'd be more impressed if she had done it on her own.

[First Speaker]

31. Like that self-made man, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who pulled himself up by his bootstraps?

...his having the name "Roosevelt" had nothing to do whatever with his election to the NY State Senate, appointment to the Assistant Navy Secretary position, the Vice Presidential nomination in 1920, or being elected Governor of NY in 1928. Just a Horatio Alger story...or John Quincy Adams, or Benjamin Harrison, or Robert Taft, or JFK--just a barefoot boy from Hyannis; was his father anything special?--or RFK, or Teddy, or Al Gore, or the Bushes, or the Byrds, or the Longs in Louisiana, or Jerry Brown, or Chris Dodd, or a hundred others I could name...all came up from nothing.

[mylye2222]

33. +1

[Scootaloo]

14. If only her supporters cared as much about what's between her ears.

[geek tragedy]

16. One of the sharpest minds ever to run for Preznit.

Have a nice night whining.

[Scootaloo]

21. If it were any sharper, she wouldn't be allowed to run with it.

[geek tragedy]

23. ba-dum tsss! nt

[Hiraeth]

9. I missed it.

but, I can say that where you see happy I see smug.

where you see presidential I see monarchy.

[madaboutharry]

12. Monarchy? Really?

When you say stuff like that, it is so over the top, people can't take you seriously

[Hiraeth]

19. people? like in your head, or what exactly? you speaking for all the little people.

lordy. take it seriously.

this sham.
this charade.
this charlatan.
this dog and pony show.

serious. no.

I take my job seriously.
I take my bills seriously.
I take my family seriously.

this shitstorm? no. I don't take it seriously.

[Haveadream]

22. I believe you

But I truly wonder why that is. It is a phenomenon that gets repeated over and over in every election. People "see" such different qualities in the candidates and once they have their minds made up, almost nothing will convince them otherwise. Every idea, every word, every event that happens from that point on becomes material to confirm the bias and more evidence for loving or hating the candidate. It happens every time and none of us seem to be immune. I imagine the media has a large hand in creating particular narratives in our minds. How often our heroes or demons turn out to be nothing as we imagined.

[Hiraeth]

27. all I know is that from the first moment I "met" the woman. I didn't like her. I tried to. At times,

I have grudgingly admired and respected her but, like and trust her. Nope.

I have worked with women like her. Backstabbers. That is the vibe I get from her.

so weird.

Because Bill .... meh ... he disgusts me but, he is a likeable enough POS. Still don't trust him either.



go figure.

[eastwestdem]

15. It was wonderful, and so touching!! Watched with my 3 daughters...all of us in tears. nt

[seabeyond]

17. She certaily did. Made her sharp, focused, in good shape to get on with the GE.

[davidn3600]

20. Earned it? LOL! It was a coronation from day one!

No one was running. Bernie was supposed to be the "crazy outsider" that wasn't supposed to get anywhere near this far.

All the Superdelegates were behind Hillary from day one.

This primary was a sham.

[geek tragedy]

24. u mad bro? nt

[davidn3600]

26. Fuck yeah I am

My party just put on a rigged primary.

[geek tragedy]

28. no, she just got more voters because women and racial minorities and Democrats

preferred her.

the talk about 'rigged' is just juvenile whining

[davidn3600]

34. 90% of Superdelegates backed her IMMEDIATELY. It was rigged.

The debate schedule was a joke.
She had no competition. It was as if the party was sending signals to people not to run because no one wants to deny the queen her day.

And no, I won't vote for her. She doesn't represent me one fucking bit. She doesn't represent the working class one fucking bit. And I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else on this site has to say about it.

Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump. Do you even realize how fucked this country is right now?

[geek tragedy]

35. I never, ever, ever thought you'd vote for her against Trump nt

[davidn3600]

37. Has nothing to do with Trump. Im voting 3rd party....been thinking that way for awhile

This party left my family a long time ago.

I wish it was still the party it was back in my grandfather's days when it actually used to care about the working class American. When it didn't bow to special interests and rich Wall Street brokers and bankers. Now it's virtually identity to the Republicans.

[geek tragedy]

38. I knew you would never vote for Hillary vs Trump

A lot of us familiar with your posting history over the years here knew that.

You can go now.

[Ken Burch]

25. It never had to include the false accusations that Bernie didn't care about bigotry.

That is the one thing I'll have the hardest time forgiving.

[Marr]

29. I hope Hillary's fans are prepared to actually get involved now. They certainly weren't

very interested in showing up at her rallies, and since her campaign has driven off so much of the left, they're really going to have to work hard to recruit Republican voters.

Good luck.

[GulfCoast66]

36. I am sure

Bernie would be happy to trade all those people attending rallies for actual votes. Because at the end of the day the Democratic Party Voters preferred Clinton.

He did very well and when everything is settled his run will have helped strengthen the party. And move it to the left.

[itsrobert]

41. Rallies don't equal votes

Ask President Ron Paul.

[Maedhros]

30. Well, enjoy what you wrought, Democrats.

I saw how you treated progressive ideas and progressive people.

I won't forget.

[itsrobert]

39. And she had to win by twice as much as the last male candidate who won a contested contest

And still some will give her no credit.

[Beacool]

42. Yes, she did.