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Bernie Sanders' aides just threw him under the bus to Politico. This is blistering. (Original Post) Native Jun 2016 OP
Please stop. berni_mccoy Jun 2016 #1
Karma can bite. riversedge Jun 2016 #24
Yes, it can bite anyone. dchill Jun 2016 #31
Bernie's aides seem much more civil and pro-party than Bernie. Hope some come on over. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #46
Stop posting articles? mcar Jun 2016 #56
hard to stop a crash when it is happening in slow motion snooper2 Jun 2016 #64
Not sure why Hillary fans are still trying to annoy Bernie fans. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #2
Sore winners vercetti2021 Jun 2016 #4
I guess what I've heard about the Clintons for years is true. BlueStater Jun 2016 #15
yeah, the fish rots from the head. grasswire Jun 2016 #27
And this piece has exactly WHAT to do with the Clintons? apcalc Jun 2016 #57
The Clintons did not post that OP WhiteTara Jun 2016 #69
You're saying the Clintons are personally behind this article??? LAS14 Jun 2016 #71
And to promote party unity avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #65
They are convinced they can win the GE without us davidn3600 Jun 2016 #13
"Us" didn't show up so well in CA. "Us" didn't show up so well in ND - 355 total! WFT!!! tonyt53 Jun 2016 #54
They're just making sure Hillary's votes are few, but pure. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #30
Because its human nature. Eko Jun 2016 #43
They have little faith in their candidate. dinkytron Jun 2016 #47
The ones that aren't trolls and are smart aren't. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #51
Makes zero sense... rubbing salt in the wound... sad day on DU. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #53
That's the Hillaryite plan to achieve unity against Trump! imagine2015 Jun 2016 #74
I think Hillary supporters are upset that Bernie is attempting to hold back Sheepshank Jun 2016 #83
Weaver is a POS. joshcryer Jun 2016 #3
This is nuts......... a kennedy Jun 2016 #5
From Ezra Klein, passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #6
This is pretty funny coming from the champions of HA Goodman & Shaun King Tarc Jun 2016 #17
you don't like Shaun King....that tells me all that I need to know virtualobserver Jun 2016 #32
S. King has taken on the nasty, stupid characterizations of H.A. Goodman lately. riversedge Jun 2016 #44
Shaun King is Bernie cheerleader #2. Not quite a partisan hack as Goodman Tarc Jun 2016 #49
ha ha. Politico is in the bag for Hillary you claim. Move out of your Bernie Bubble and riversedge Jun 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #7
Yikes. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #8
gossip, gossip grasswire Jun 2016 #29
Don't do this. Just don't do this. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #9
Hill shill Ezra Klein... turd flinger. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #10
VOX. merrily Jun 2016 #11
its Politico MFM008 Jun 2016 #12
Is Ezra Klein related to Joe Klein? QC Jun 2016 #14
Not a pretty picture. They don't seem to know they are fighting against nobody upaloopa Jun 2016 #16
Jump while the jumpin is good boys! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #18
Sad, if true. okasha Jun 2016 #20
I read that he is difficult to work for, so it doesn't surprise me that his BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #21
I've read that Clinton has a journal to keep track of her enemies. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #52
Where'd you read that, Drudge Report or Breitbart? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #76
Actually the right-wing crap helps hide genuine information. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #82
The Politico piece is no different from any campaign's immediate after-action reporting. hedda_foil Jun 2016 #22
agreed enid602 Jun 2016 #37
I agree. See reply #73 LAS14 Jun 2016 #75
Pretty much what I was going to post but you beat me to it. mikehiggins Jun 2016 #66
Good point. I didn't swallow wholesale all the things said... LAS14 Jun 2016 #73
Whoa. He pissed off one of his top people to have them leak that. Not a pretty picture. bettyellen Jun 2016 #23
This is shitty - like vultures picking over a hurt individual. No need to gloat. writes3000 Jun 2016 #25
ezra klien is vox MattP Jun 2016 #26
It might be for the best Renew Deal Jun 2016 #28
But Bernie has momentum and a movement. grasswire Jun 2016 #33
I love you Grasswire Renew Deal Jun 2016 #34
I never aimed to be polite. grasswire Jun 2016 #38
lol Renew Deal Jun 2016 #39
And I'm never supporting HRC. nt grasswire Jun 2016 #41
Hey, that's BS Renew Deal Jun 2016 #42
You won't be supporting Trump, will you? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #58
of course not grasswire Jun 2016 #81
What has this article got to do with Hillary? LAS14 Jun 2016 #72
If that were accurate he would've won. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #77
Why work for someone... JSup Jun 2016 #35
Because the checks cleared, that's why. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #48
Sad. PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #36
I'm thinking Bernie may be synonymous with Jane Whimsey Jun 2016 #40
Bye Felicia Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #50
They want to keep their career options alive mcar Jun 2016 #55
An angry man rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #59
This reveals who Bernie really is. Not the image he let people believe. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #60
I guess they feel Berned. RandySF Jun 2016 #61
I read somewhere don't remember where that azurnoir Jun 2016 #62
Feel the unity! vintx Jun 2016 #63
the same Vox that spread false info about Bernie's tax plan! more smears amborin Jun 2016 #67
It is a Politico article. Native Jun 2016 #68
Wow! I'd all along been willing to cut Sanders some slack... LAS14 Jun 2016 #70
Here's a link to the actual article Greywing Jun 2016 #78
I get those same ego-driven, lashing out vibes from both Jane and Bernie. anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #79
The Takeaway: Mainly a ton of rumors and alleged quotes submitted by anonymous Clinton backers. imagine2015 Jun 2016 #80
This mean gossip is a well selected accessory to your avatar. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #84
What have Irish people ever done to you? Native Jun 2016 #85
What does this even mean? mcar Jun 2016 #86
It's going to make a great HBO movie someday. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #87

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
15. I guess what I've heard about the Clintons for years is true.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:43 AM
Jun 2016

They really are a pair of extremely petty, vindictive people who try to destroy everyone who crosses them.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
27. yeah, the fish rots from the head.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jun 2016

HRC and WJC have modeled petty, vindictive behavior for decades now.

It's legendary.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
65. And to promote party unity
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

DU poster bigtree wants to primary Bernie.

How that for being positive and moving forward?

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
54. "Us" didn't show up so well in CA. "Us" didn't show up so well in ND - 355 total! WFT!!!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jun 2016

"Us' can sit home and whine and let Trump win in November. "We" will get and vote for the Democratic Party nomination because "we"' isn't about "me". "Us" apparently is.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
19. They're just making sure Hillary's votes are few, but pure.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016

A rather bizarre strategy for sure. Not just here on DU...Earlier I responded to a comment on a friends FB page, and was immediately jumped on by half a dozen nasty trolls. Friend doesn't know who they even are, although he's a public figure with thousands of FB followers, I'm sure he doesn't know them all. But strange that half a dozen immediately went into attack mode. Definately a personality cult, but that's not going to get them a win in Nov. At this point, I don't even care.

Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #19)

Eko

(7,281 posts)
43. Because its human nature.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:46 AM
Jun 2016

I'll take the next step and say why is anyone on here trying to annoy Sanders or Clinton fans. It's over. What's next?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
83. I think Hillary supporters are upset that Bernie is attempting to hold back
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

A campaign that seriously need to his the pavement hard and fast.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
6. From Ezra Klein,
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jun 2016

what do you expect? And Politico is in the bag for Hillary.

Sorry, not buying it. Not buying the timing of you posting this here either.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
49. Shaun King is Bernie cheerleader #2. Not quite a partisan hack as Goodman
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jun 2016

But within spitting distance.

riversedge

(70,185 posts)
45. ha ha. Politico is in the bag for Hillary you claim. Move out of your Bernie Bubble and
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jun 2016

and you will learn something. bye

Response to Native (Original post)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Yikes.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jun 2016
More than any of them, Sanders is himself filled with resentment, on edge, feeling like he gets no respect -- all while holding on in his head to the enticing but remote chance that Clinton may be indicted before the convention.


...

as Sanders is that he’s realizing his lifelong dream of being the catalyst for remaking American politics—aides say he takes credit for a Harvard Kennedy School study in April showing young people getting more liberal, and he takes personal offense every time Clinton just dismisses the possibility of picking him as her running mate—his guiding principle under attack has basically boiled down to a feeling that multiple aides sum up as: “Screw me? No, screw you.”



Aides say Sanders thinks that progressives who picked Clinton are cynical, power-chasing chickens — like Sen. Sherrod Brown, one of his most consistent allies in the Senate before endorsing Clinton and campaigning hard for her ahead of the Ohio primary. Sanders is so bitter about it that he’d be ready to nix Brown as an acceptable VP choice, if Clinton ever asked his advice on who’d be a good progressive champion.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
21. I read that he is difficult to work for, so it doesn't surprise me that his
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jun 2016

aides threw him under the bus.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
52. I've read that Clinton has a journal to keep track of her enemies.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:02 AM
Jun 2016

It doesn't surprise me that her creatures are still flinging crap while pretending to be journalists.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
82. Actually the right-wing crap helps hide genuine information.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jun 2016






I couldn't find the article I remembered which had a quote from a life long friend something like "She told me she wanted a journal and I asked her why. She replied to keep track of enemies." I'm pretty sure it was Salon or Politico or The Hill. If it was a conservative website I'd jabber away about Vince Foster or Benghaziiiiii. I don't feel like looking further, because I meant that quote as a quick reply to the "some say" quality of the post attacking Sanders.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
22. The Politico piece is no different from any campaign's immediate after-action reporting.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jun 2016

Certainly no worse than the norm. Far better than the internecine rivalry, attempted palace coups and backbiting of Hillary's team in 2008.

enid602

(8,610 posts)
37. agreed
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

I'm a Hill supporter, and remember the similar reporting against her in 2008. Horribly cruel to fling this shit at someone when they're down. We should instead recognize their valiant fight, and how close they came to winning. Both Hill in '08, and Bern right now.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
66. Pretty much what I was going to post but you beat me to it.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

Its like the stories making it sound like laying off staff is some sort of unique development. Working on a campaign is good for resume building, etc., but there is no way it is a career. Supposedly a whole bunch of folks are going to get a thank you and a handshake and maybe a letter of recommendation and that's all she wrote. With only one primary left and HRC being dramatically ahead carrying a full staff forward is a nice idea but WTF? After D.C. the campaign needs little more than a handful of people. More would be simply a waste of money.

As for the second guessing, that's always the way things pan out. Hard to find fault with that. Maybe if Sanders was more (fill in the gap) and less (ditto) things might have worked out differently. Considering the fact that a) he was not lusting for the White House for over a quarter century and b) that he was trying to beat the drums for old-line Democratic positions, he did a great job. In one year the campaign went from a joke to a real threat to the Establishment, financed mostly by grass roots fund raising giving the lie to the Third Way/Clintonista/Democratic Establishment dogma that only the rich can and should have any impact on the nation's politics.

Anyone who doesn't see what an incredible success that is should give it some more thought.

So, IMHO, most likely the grumpy Senator from Vermont will return to the Senate and probably get a standing ovation for waging such an outstanding fight against all odds.

Not bad for a guy from Brooklyn who's even older than me.

As for progressives, some of whom will be surprised at how quickly the Establishment works to reinforce the status quo, there are some venues open for them to continue the fight for those ideas we consider worth fighting for.

And the fight must go on. The world will not wait.

The water is rising.


LAS14

(13,781 posts)
73. Good point. I didn't swallow wholesale all the things said...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jun 2016

... about Hillary's internal campaign in 2008, so I guess I should continue cutting Bernie a little slack.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. Whoa. He pissed off one of his top people to have them leak that. Not a pretty picture.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:00 AM
Jun 2016

Highlights his punitive approach, which I had noted before after Flint.

Renew Deal

(81,853 posts)
28. It might be for the best
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie doesn't have a future in presidential politics. Everyone else does. It would be noble of him to take the hit. But I doubt that's what's going on.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
33. But Bernie has momentum and a movement.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jun 2016

Backed by the coalition he has built of independents and progressives that numbers way more than the Third Way/DNC.

He has the excitement, the young people, and is not pursued by a criminal investigation by the FBI.

He has nothing to lose. AND........he is beloved.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
81. of course not
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

I have never supported a Republican in my life.

I have never supported a Democrat who was under FBI investigation for failing to keep the national secrets safe, either.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
77. If that were accurate he would've won.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

Claiming that all independents and progressives wanted Bernie to be the nominee just isn't honest.

JSup

(740 posts)
35. Why work for someone...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:28 AM
Jun 2016

...and then trash them when it goes bad?

No one should ever hire these guys.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
48. Because the checks cleared, that's why.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:56 AM
Jun 2016

Everyone on the Sanders campaign knew it was a big grift on progressive voters except Sanders, apparently. And he should have been smart enough to figure it out based on his monthly expenditures, but he wasn't.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
40. I'm thinking Bernie may be synonymous with Jane
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jun 2016

She is is main political adviser afterall.

I remember seeing her interviewed on MSNBC the day after the New York Super Tuesday primaries when the interviewer said she had just gotten a report from the campaign that the Sanders campaign was reassessing. Jane was taken about and stoutly disavowed the report. The next day, the report was that the campaign was full steam ahead. I felt she had more influence on the candidate than his hires.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
55. They want to keep their career options alive
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie is burning all his bridges with his intransigence. I do think he'll suspend his campaign soon but the optics would have been better if he did it last night, rather than vowing to fight on.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
59. An angry man
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

whose die hard followed are motivated by anger that is disproportionate to their actual privilege.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
62. I read somewhere don't remember where that
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton's campaign aides all signed confidentiality agreements , guess Bernie should have done the same - trust is earned not bestowed

LAS14

(13,781 posts)
70. Wow! I'd all along been willing to cut Sanders some slack...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

... not blaming him entirely for all the bad stuff. But this Politico article really looks damning, and doesn't bode well for unity.

However, on reflection and reading some other posts, I think I'd better take this with a teaspoon of post firing salt. See response #73.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
79. I get those same ego-driven, lashing out vibes from both Jane and Bernie.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jun 2016

This really does validate all those feelings that had been springing up, particularly in the last couple of months. It was pretty obvious he veered from being a cause candidate back when the primaries started, glad to see that those around him agreed as well...since it reinforces his lack of qualifications for the office he was seeking. Jane gave several interviews that seemed to have not been cleared by someone knowledgeable in public relations and campaign functioning.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
80. The Takeaway: Mainly a ton of rumors and alleged quotes submitted by anonymous Clinton backers.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jun 2016

I read it and wondered how much of the story is pure fabricated anti-Sanders bull shit and how much of it pure horse shit?

Hard to tell.

But it really does have an obnoxious odor!



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
84. This mean gossip is a well selected accessory to your avatar.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

There have been entire books gossiping about Hillary and Bill being nasty bosses and I am not fond of those either.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
86. What does this even mean?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

What does the Celtic Cross avatar have to do with posting a link to an article?

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