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MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:00 AM Jun 2016

And I'm supposed to be gracious??

Not only is he "taking it to the convention," but his whole crowd just booed the shit out of Hillary when talking about the call he had with Hillary and he just stands back and lets it happen.

Speak up, say there is more that unites us than divides us. SAY SOMETHING

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And I'm supposed to be gracious?? (Original Post) MadBadger Jun 2016 OP
The primary's not over yet... k8conant Jun 2016 #1
Yeah, they're totally going to go out and bring home D.C.! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #36
. baldguy Jun 2016 #57
LOL. Yeah it is. Adrahil Jun 2016 #68
you don't get us. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #2
Yes we do we got it a long time ago upaloopa Jun 2016 #12
Oh yes we do. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #15
You're a liberal Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #17
You don't know what I am, you're a sectarian, of the genus infantile. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #20
lol nt ruggerson Jun 2016 #19
Boooo! Booooo Hillary! Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #23
Eff this. Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #3
See You In Phi. GoldenThunder Jun 2016 #4
To do what? Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #13
WE will be victorious GoldenThunder Jun 2016 #22
the only revolution is in your head bigtree Jun 2016 #55
The voters rejected your revolution. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #63
didnt you get the private messages directing you quit criticizing bernie and his crowd? I did nt msongs Jun 2016 #5
No, we get ones that range from batshit nuts to smarmy, the latter seeking P.U., of course. merrily Jun 2016 #26
It is what it is. Hillary's not reaching out to progressives. Someone needs to represent us. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #6
Yes she is...you just choose not to listen apcalc Jun 2016 #61
Oh bullshit pengu Jun 2016 #67
That's nuts. apcalc Jun 2016 #84
It's the truth pengu Jun 2016 #85
Lol BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #77
Don't worry. No one expects you to be gracious. n/t QC Jun 2016 #7
He never once mentioned being the nominee. He laid the groundwork for changing... writes3000 Jun 2016 #8
Save your energy--we don't do subtlety here. QC Jun 2016 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #42
Its peter hes silly and serious! SwampG8r Jun 2016 #62
But Michael Nesmith's mom invented Liquid Paper! QC Jun 2016 #71
Well yeah but davy jones is why we had david bowie SwampG8r Jun 2016 #74
DC is going to whoop his ass and he will have to concede ... bettyellen Jun 2016 #16
Yep. He has even less chance in DC than California brush Jun 2016 #83
Fuck 'em. Move right and pick up some more reliable votes from the center. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #9
Sigh...it's quixotic at this point. PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #10
Bernie has been vanquished. redstateblues Jun 2016 #11
just ignore it and be happy over Clinton's win JI7 Jun 2016 #18
you can be whatever you wish azurnoir Jun 2016 #21
No you don't have to be gracious! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #24
I know a lot of families around the world with dead loved ones probably hate her. JRLeft Jun 2016 #35
I agree and they are probably justified in that hatred. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #37
Neither do I. I hate her policies. Like I said before I truly believe she means well, but JRLeft Jun 2016 #41
Sounds like the crowd knows who and what Hillary is. senz Jun 2016 #25
Millions of voters disagree with them. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #27
And millions agree with them. senz Jun 2016 #30
+1000 ^^^^^^ LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #31
no MFM008 Jun 2016 #32
Your signature line is false. tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #43
No, my signature line is correct. senz Jun 2016 #44
The biggest lie is the "superdegates don't count" bullshit. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #64
Superdelegates can change their minds. They don't vote until July 25. senz Jun 2016 #75
Just like how the electoral college won't vote until December 19. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #76
Hillary does not have 2383 delegates. senz Jun 2016 #78
Sure she doesn't. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #82
CNN count? (**psst**) ---> Petrushka Jun 2016 #47
I'm glad the crowd didn't boo Obama UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #28
Many Bernie voters, myself included, like Obama. senz Jun 2016 #33
Ditto here... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #39
YOU? Perish the thought! merrily Jun 2016 #29
I've seen these "Hillary supporters stop the insults" pleas but can't find the insults. betsuni Jun 2016 #34
I'm apparently too Sexist, racist, homophobic unrealistic, naive secret drumpf supporter who has That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #38
I don't think it's possible to boo the shit out of Hillary. nt grasswire Jun 2016 #40
I'm mad that you're mad. I'm sure this will lead to productive places. Grrr, argh, smash. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #45
It was more of a grumble than a boo. And it wasn't the whole crowd. He waved it down a bit. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #46
He and his supporters are hurting. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #48
self-inflicted bigtree Jun 2016 #56
Agree. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #59
What's worse than a sore loser is a poor winner. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #49
You're supposed to be whatever you think you're supposed to be. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #50
Awful apcalc Jun 2016 #51
mature adults are gracious when faced with a lost battle beachbum bob Jun 2016 #52
he's incapable bigtree Jun 2016 #53
be whatever you want to be GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #54
Not after the shit posted about Hillary and her supporters... SidDithers Jun 2016 #58
+1000 betsuni Jun 2016 #60
Yup SheenaR Jun 2016 #81
I don't think anyone expects you or your ilk to 180 like that, no. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #65
Except there ISN'T more that unites us than divides us anymore pengu Jun 2016 #66
Don't bother, were not listening to you. jack_krass Jun 2016 #69
Seriously, is this true???? Bleacher Creature Jun 2016 #70
He made a downward motion with his hands. QC Jun 2016 #72
Say something: The media says you gotta take the conservative good for business Hillary. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #73
There's been a 'divide' Faux pas Jun 2016 #79
Could care less if you are or are not. Marrah_G Jun 2016 #80
Ego. seabeyond Jun 2016 #86
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
68. LOL. Yeah it is.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jun 2016

You know, when you have a game series that is best of seven, they don;t even play game once one team wins 4. Now, everybody votes count, but he can no longer mathematically win the majority of pledged delegates.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
6. It is what it is. Hillary's not reaching out to progressives. Someone needs to represent us.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:03 AM
Jun 2016

We have a voice.

apcalc

(4,461 posts)
61. Yes she is...you just choose not to listen
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:17 AM
Jun 2016

And if ANY of your important points make it to the platform it will be because of HER.

SHE IS A PROGRESSIVE TOO.

pengu

(462 posts)
67. Oh bullshit
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:04 AM
Jun 2016

She's no progressive. Even if our goals make the platform it won't matter. They'll be promptly ignored as soon as the election is over. The party has proven they'll fight harder against progressives than republicans.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
8. He never once mentioned being the nominee. He laid the groundwork for changing...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:04 AM
Jun 2016

His fight into a platform fight.

I predict he will concede after DC but insist on being a loud voice on platform.

QC

(26,371 posts)
14. Save your energy--we don't do subtlety here.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jun 2016

That's clearly the point, but you're not dealing with people who are into nuanced discussion.

Think more along the lines of early 1970's teenyboppers arguing over which one of the Monkees is the dreamiest.

Response to QC (Reply #14)

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
74. Well yeah but davy jones is why we had david bowie
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

And dolenz was jungle boy
Wow it really is hard to pick a.best monkee
Still like tork best

brush

(53,469 posts)
83. Yep. He has even less chance in DC than California
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

I don't get the rationale of taking it to DC.

Has anyone on the Sanders staff checked the demographics of DC?

What's the point, especially after last night's losses?

 

PepperHarlan

(124 posts)
10. Sigh...it's quixotic at this point.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:05 AM
Jun 2016

And maybe just a little bit pitiful. But he should do what he thinks is right I guess. He's going to be totally blown out in DC. That will not be a pretty way to end the campaign portion.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
24. No you don't have to be gracious!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jun 2016

You can continue on in the same vein as you have all along. No worries. It is okay - those that don't like Hillary will never like her - whether Bernie quits or not. Over is over...when it is over. Good luck with Hillary - I suspect she will win the GE and then you can have 4 years of her...it will be fun.

So all that said why are you so angry that some don't like her? Why do you wonder why you have to be gracious when your candidate has won. I just don't understand it at all....

Not happy till everyone stands behind your candidate? No going to happen.

Don't be mad - go play.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
37. I agree and they are probably justified in that hatred.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jun 2016

I personally don't hate her - I just can not and will not vote for her. It is against my moral guidelines to vote for anyone who promotes war and would bring young children to "heel".

Her views are too different from mine and her self-righteousness means she will believe it should always be her way or the highway.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
41. Neither do I. I hate her policies. Like I said before I truly believe she means well, but
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jun 2016

she's wrong on policy.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. Sounds like the crowd knows who and what Hillary is.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jun 2016

After last night, I'll bet Bernie does too.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
30. And millions agree with them.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:48 AM
Jun 2016

Remember, she's got sky high unfavorability ratings and ranks extremely low on trustworthiness.

Just something about her ...

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
43. Your signature line is false.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:32 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary has 2,058 pledged delegates per the latest CNN count. 2026 are needed for a pledged delegate majority.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. No, my signature line is correct.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:44 AM
Jun 2016
A candidate must win 2,383 delegates at the national convention, in order to win the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

Hillary has not won the nomination. Neither candidate will have the requisite count prior to the convention. The AP was playing games with the American public Monday night and deliberately suppressed voter turnout Tuesday.

There are a TON of lies surrounding this primary.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
64. The biggest lie is the "superdegates don't count" bullshit.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:37 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary does have the requisite number of delegates to win the nomination. Shouting "don't count the superdelegates" and other Berniemath slogans won't change that.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
76. Just like how the electoral college won't vote until December 19.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jun 2016

And the electors can vote for somebody other than the winner of their state. But we'll still (probably) have a president-elect on the evening of November 8.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
28. I'm glad the crowd didn't boo Obama
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jun 2016

If there were boos for President Obama I would've lost my fucking mind!! There are some already posting nasty stuff about Obama on twitter tonight. Remember when Obama had a rally and people started booing. He said "Don't boo. Vote" Would've been nice to see Sanders temper the boos. Says a lot about him at this point and its disappointing because at one point I was undecided and considering voting for him. Talking to a lot of people now who can't believe they were ever for Bernie Sanders.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. Many Bernie voters, myself included, like Obama.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:51 AM
Jun 2016

Been of fan of Obama's for a long time. Never did like Hill's ugly racist lies about him in 2008.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
39. Ditto here...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jun 2016

Unlike her supporters however, I have never forgotten the race card she played and the comments she encouraged.

That is why I can't vote for her this cycle.

Once bitten twice shy.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. YOU? Perish the thought!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jun 2016

You know, the thought about being gracious that you didn't actually have when you posted that OP? That one.

betsuni

(25,128 posts)
34. I've seen these "Hillary supporters stop the insults" pleas but can't find the insults.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:58 AM
Jun 2016

Of course I can't read everything, and there are always a few obnoxious people in any group, but so far I really don't see anything that I'd consider an insult. It's not as if there are dozens of OPs calling him names. What's so terrible?

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
38. I'm apparently too Sexist, racist, homophobic unrealistic, naive secret drumpf supporter who has
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jun 2016

a liberal purity test to notice whether or not you are gracious.


Seriously though, are you Clinton supporters ever happy? It seems like when she's losing you guys are butt-hurt and angry, and when she's winning you guys are still butt-hurt and angry.

No one is universally liked. No matter what you do, there will always be people who just won't like you. Given that, when you send surrogates out to attack people who disagree with you as: sexist, racist, homophobic, unrealistic, naive, demanding liberal purity, etc. etc. etc, ETC... why express surprise when the targets of those political smears don't respond well to your demands for electoral luv.

aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
46. It was more of a grumble than a boo. And it wasn't the whole crowd. He waved it down a bit.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:49 AM
Jun 2016

Whether or not you can be gracious is up to you.

Grace is what it is.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
59. Agree.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:02 AM
Jun 2016

Still, pain is pain. I'm also really not sure how gracious we need to be. I just had a sexist remark thrown at me this morning. That is based in personal hatred. Makes me want to make it clear to them that they didn't just get beat, they had their asses handed to them.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
50. You're supposed to be whatever you think you're supposed to be.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:32 AM
Jun 2016

I personally think half the anger on the site has been the result of others telling them how they "should" think or feel.

I don't think anyone has the right to tell you what you "should" do, unless maybe a cop telling you that you "shouldn't" break the law. I try to listen to cops whenever possible, and when it comes to anyone else, I do what's right for me first and worrying about making other people happy with my decisions second.

So I will play devil's advocate here and ask you a very direct question.

You're upset right now, correct?

What exactly do you feel your anger is going to do to change whatever Sanders decides to do?

Personally...and I am not you...I'd be more interested in focusing my efforts on things that are in my control.

You're not "supposed to be gracious" unless you want to be gracious.

I'm not a fan of Hillary Clinton. If you heard corks popping last night, they weren't coming from my bottle.

But we are where we are at and what exactly can you, I, or anyone else on DU do about it today?

I'm staying out of the "victory" and "history" conversations because raining on someone else's parade just isn't for me. It's not my parade.

But all of the anger in the world isn't going to change it, and I don't feel like being angry today. I have too many things that need my attention to allow it.

Be upset of the system if you'd like. Be upset with people who "booed the shit out of" Clinton? What's that going to get you? What exactly are you going to gain by that, and what would you like to see happen? Because if you think you are going to make something happen with your anger and your assertion that the boos give you the justification to not be "gracious," it's going to be a long, angry day for you.

Let it go.

Focus on something you can control and stop looking for people who will behave the way you think they should behave. That will get you nowhere.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
52. mature adults are gracious when faced with a lost battle
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:37 AM
Jun 2016

sanders....some of followers are proving not to be.....

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
54. be whatever you want to be
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:49 AM
Jun 2016

btw did you see what Jon Stewart had to say about Hillary? It wasn't gracious.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
58. Not after the shit posted about Hillary and her supporters...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:58 AM
Jun 2016

over the last 6 months.

Celebrate her victory loudly and proudly. You deserve it.

Sid

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
65. I don't think anyone expects you or your ilk to 180 like that, no.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:44 AM
Jun 2016

But that's why I think there's only... One or two Hillary supporters that I don't have on Full Ignore. Welcome to that list, by the way.

Bleacher Creature

(11,235 posts)
70. Seriously, is this true????
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jun 2016

I couldn't stay up late enough to watch. Did he react AT ALL when they booed?? Shake his head? Mouth the word "no"? Anything???

I used to like the guy a lot and want to do so again. He's making it very difficult.

QC

(26,371 posts)
72. He made a downward motion with his hands.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

You know, like when you're motioning someone to be quiet.

You should watch the speech for yourself instead of listening to poutrage junkies and character assassins.

Faux pas

(14,582 posts)
79. There's been a 'divide'
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jun 2016

since way before the primary, Bernie was the one who brought it out in the open and exposed it for all to see. Pretending it isn't a BIG divide and trying to get the rest of us to buckle under is a laugh. Principles don't blow away because hrc-ers think we should shut up and go away.

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