FLORIDA POLL JUNE 7: Trump beats Clinton 45% to 44% Sanders beats Trump 46% to 43%

[imagine2015]

June 7, 2016

Florida: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 44, Trump 45 Trump +1

Florida: Trump vs. Sanders PPP (D) Sanders 46, Trump 43 Sanders +3

Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein PPP (D) Trump 41, Clinton 40, Johnson 4, Stein 2 Trump +1

[Demsrule86]

1. within the margin of error

No one is going to make Bernie the nominee.

[morningfog]

9. No, but that poll is discomforting.

Hillary better figure out how to lead outside the margin of error in Florida.

[Demsrule86]

21. 3 points is within the margin of error.

PPP actually has bigger margins sometimes...but I am here to tell you three points is meaningless as are polls this early. Bernie will not be the nominee...so my guess is these polls are old or with very small samples.

[morningfog]

23. What the fuck does Bernie have to do with Hillary being within the MOE

in PA. We cannot lose PA.

I agree that polls this far out change. But that is a shitty starting point. And Hillary almost always polls worse as time goes on.

[MyNameGoesHere]

67. No it isn't. The poll includes an impossibility

that Sanders is a nominee. He is the runner up in the Democratic primary, he came in second. The poll is invalid.

[JoePhilly]

61. + 1

[grasswire]

2. those polls prolly won't be allowed here next week

DU will be flying blind into the whirlwind.

It would be interesting to see what changes if just Clinton and Trump were in the poll.

[imagine2015]

3. "what changes if just Clinton and Trump were in the poll" Here ya go. Trump ties Clinton in Pa.

PENNSYLVANIA ELECTION POLL JUNE 8: Trump Ties Clinton

Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 44, Trump 44 Tie

[imagine2015]

4. Why do you think the DU Adminstrators will ban election polls from being posted?

[HooptieWagon]

14. Only polls showing Clinton ahead will be allowed.

Polls showing her trailing upset the poor delicate flowers.

[Demsrule86]

7. Poll have always been allowed but a poster that posts poll after poll with Trump ahead

will be suspect and should be.

[morningfog]

10. If it is from a reputable polling outfit, the problem would not be with the poster.

[Demsrule86]

15. It shows a pattern...and could be construed as an attack on our nominee

Now, why would you do that if you were not attacking Hillary? Those of you who won't vote for Hil, fine...I don't agree but hey it is a free country. However, you should not attempt to attack Hillary who is the Democratic nominee by trying to skirt the rules. If you hate her that much then take a break until after the election. Personally, I despise Bernie but had he won, I would have voted for him. He is way better than Trump.

[imagine2015]

19. Ask the DU Administrators If Major Established Polls Indicated Trump Is Leading Will Be Banned On DU

And only those polls showing Hillary leading Trump will be allowed on DU.

Post Skinners response.

OK?

[morningfog]

20. Posting polls from reputable polling outfits is not an attack.

It's the opposite. We'd be fools to ignore them and I guarantee Hillary pays attention to them.

You'll have to change your expectations of what is an attack if you think posting negative polls qualifies. That's just nonsense.

[JoePhilly]

62. In a week they'll be no need to include Bernie in these polls ...

... just like there is no need to include Jebby.

[dubyadiprecession]

5. These polls are worthless in june, The GE has just began.

[uponit7771]

53. +1

[baldguy]

6. And I'm sure Scooby-Doo would beat them all, but he's not in the race.

And neither is Bernie Sanders.

[Loudestlib]

8. That's a shame really.

All we are left with is muck and yuk.

[baldguy]

12. What we're "left with" is a blow-hard racist asshole & a die-hard liberal Democrat.

Thank God the choice is so easy!

[HooptieWagon]

16. 'Liberal'....

[baldguy]

18. 6/16

[HooptieWagon]

24. Her own words...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/

Not a liberal.

[imagine2015]

22. Who is the die-hard "liberal" Democrat you write about?

[Loudestlib]

25. Sanders was the only die-hard liberal Democrat. n/t

[BreakfastClub]

27. Ha, sanders really isn't a democrat. We all know that. nt

[Loudestlib]

28. Alright. What's he registered as then?

[baldguy]

45. For what, 40 yrs? As an indenpendant, bashing the Democratic Party.

He registered as a Democrat for crass political purposes, to take advantage of the DNC, the party organization, and to tap into party funds. He's a user who thinks "Democrat" is just a label that can be slapped on & taken off, like one of his cheap suits.

[Loudestlib]

47. "He registered as a Democrat for crass political purposes"

So is Hillary, so are you, and so am I. If you want to talk about behavior we can talk about how he's voted with democrats more often than Hillary.

[baldguy]

64. I didn't register as a Democrat as an act of self-aggrandizement. Bernie did.

[Loudestlib]

66. He's been offered a spot at the top of the Green Party ticket.

Maybe he'll take you up on it and leave the party. They're on the ballot in 35 states I think?

[Whimsey]

11. Did Obama win Florida

I don't know and am too lazy to do the research.

[HooptieWagon]

17. Twice, barely.

Clinton cant pull Obamas numbers.

[uponit7771]

54. and the demographics are worse for tRump this go around

[Whimsey]

13. ok i checked

The state was a toss up two months before the election and Obama ended up winning 51%. I think Hillary still has a chance!

[rjsquirrel]

26. So pretty much the same

All those results well within the margin of error. There goes Bernie's last bullshit argument lol. Not that it ever meant anything. They hair would roll out the ads with Stalin's face and Bernie's old words supporting various dictators and Marxist regimes and the Iranian revolution and linking him to various hard left radical pals.

America would never elect a self declared socialist for president, let alone one with such a history of saying and supporting some of the world's nastiest regimes. That you can't see that tells me yore either very young or are in denial.

Bernie's positions on Israel/Palestine alone would surely cost him Florida once the debate moved beyond the same old same old occupy Wall Street issues.

[Loudestlib]

29. LOL people like you are great.

Hillary will never get a turnout like Obama in Florida. If the Sanders supporters in Florida don't turnout for her she's toast.

[MFM008]

30. Tell me again why Rump is better?

At all?

[Loudestlib]

31. I can't tell you again if I didn't tell you the first time.

Stay focused.

[Loudestlib]

33. Obama had polls just like these in Florida.

He barely won with 51%. You think that Hillary will do better? Please....

[Loudestlib]

36. I would never insinuate that you are a brick wall.

Brick walls serve a purpose.

[Loudestlib]

41. I should have paid more attention in Sunday school.

Proverbs 26:4 "When arguing with fools, don't answer their foolish arguments, or you will become as foolish as they are."

[LenaBaby61]

39. Just in case you forgot...

Hillary did get a nice turn out in Florida most recently, and that time around it was without Bernie supporters votes. Next time around, I'm sure she will get some Bernie supporters voting for her as well her own voting base as well.

Democratic Primary:

Clinton won Florida, according to A.P.

CANDIDATES DELEGATES

Hillary Clinton
1,097,400
VOTE PCT:
64.4%
DELEGATES:
141


Bernie Sanders
566,603
VOTE PCT:
33.3
DELEGATES:
73

[Loudestlib]

40. In case you didn't notice,

republicans got 2,355,183 votes compared to the 1,702,878 votes democrats received.

[LenaBaby61]

44. I hear .....

Ya

[Whimsey]

58. Hillary beat Bernie 2-1 in the Forida primary

If her supporters did not turn out for him, he would be toast!

[andym]

34. Why is Trump doing so well against both Clinton and Sanders?

Are voters crazy?

[Loudestlib]

38. The top half of Florida is lower Georgia.

[RockaFowler]

50. Or Alabama

Especially in the Panhandle

[NCTraveler]

46. Tied w/Trump.

Going to be a tough argument for Sanders to make in the coming days. Florida is tied and Sanders struggled mightily in Florida. It was a blow out.

[workinclasszero]

48. News flash...

Bernie lost.

In other news the last 2 uncommitted supers in Ohio just endorsed Hillary Clinton!

[RockaFowler]

49. Then why didn't Bernie beat Hillary in the Primary here??

Come on now - this poll is really suspect

[Backwoodsrider]

51. only 1 more week of these type of resentment filled posts

Then its on and forward for the first female president

[Herman4747]

52. People were REPEATEDLY warned about Hillary's electability issues...

Having a 55% disapproval rating indicates that, hey, Independents by and large don't really like you much.
Some think, "Oh, I don't mind when Hillary lies," FAILING TO REALIZE THAT OTHERS DO!!!

[apnu]

55. *sigh*. Its June. Primary bounces haven't run full course yet.

Plus in July there will be convention bounces for each nominee. Don't start looking at polls until mid Aug, and start sweating them in mid Sept.

[DCBob]

57. Poll done mostly pre-Judge scandal and all before Clinton victory Tuesday night.

These numbers will get significantly better for Hillary in the next round of polls.

[Nye Bevan]

59. We're not doing this anymore (nt)

[book_worm]

60. Again this is a case of Sanders supporters stating they will not support HRC

while HRC supporters would support Bernie.

[grasswire]

63. Bernie supporters owe Hillary nothing.

Bernie forged his own coalition of progressives and independents. Hillary can forge her own coalition, can find her own votes.

We Bernie supporters already voted for the stronger candidate against Trump. We did our duty.

Now it's up to you and yours to get hustling for the votes HRC will need. Don't count on Bernie bailing you out.

[NightWatcher]

65. STOP!!! I was a Bernie supporter right up until Hillary won

And she's won the nomination.

Obama's on her side. The Party is on her side. The primary is over.