Pelosi at DNC Platform Hearing: Incrementalism hasn't worked. We need to think big.

[Skwmom]

She said this in regards to homelessness. She repeated thinking big numerous times and seemed really rattled. I have never heard her sound like this.

She referred to Native Americans. We have been hearing about something being done for Native Americans who live on the reservations (in extreme poverty) for YEARS but nothing gets done.

Pelois represents San Francisco.

San Francisco: Homelessness - shame of the city.

http://www.sfgate.com/homeless/

[Agnosticsherbet]

1. If we could give you a Congress, you could do something big.

A large majority in the House and 60 votes in the Senate would mean there is not need to compromise with Republicans, though you will still need to compromise between different personalities in the Democratic Party.

[HooptieWagon]

2. When Dems had large majorities they still compromised with Repugs.

They're only going to pass what their corporate donors allow to be passed.

[Skwmom]

6. People have caught on to the Big Con but the politicians in DC haven't figured that out yet.

[joshcryer]

23. When are you thinking of?

Because we haven't had "large majorities" in a very long time.

[Skwmom]

4. Both Bill Clinton and Obama had control of ALL three branches.

They lost control because they did not fight for what they promised on the campaign trail.

[Agnosticsherbet]

9. They lost control because Democrats could no be bothered

To elect a Congress that would pass better legislation.

When Democratic voters don't give a pig fart and elect good members of Congress, Republicans win Congress.

Congress controls legislation.

Presidents actually have no power to legislate.

[Skwmom]

12. Blame it on the people? Really? They didn't turn out because they were turned off by politicians

that say ONE thing while running and do another thing entirely when they are elected.

[Agnosticsherbet]

14. Again, we have a government elected by a majority of those who vote.

So, yes, people who don't vote are responsible for their actions. People who don't show up perpetuate bad government as much as those who vote every time to put one in power.

The reason why we get the same people elected again and again is people do not show up and vote. Even in gerrymandered districts, there are enough people that if they all show-up and vote they can throw the bums out. (That is why we have the rare wave elections where people do rise up and change the government.) In midterms, the turnout in my neighborhood drops down in the thirty percent range. It is the same 30%. (Most of those 30% are Republican. Oddly in my district Democrats slightly outnumber the Republicans.) In special elections, the turnout is as low as 10%. In special elections, less the 10% of that 10% are Democrats like me.

If people want good government, they need to show up at every election. If they don't, then whatever lousy government elected is their fault.

The reason why the right wing in this country works so hard to disenfranchise as many as they can is that they can get their voters to the polls.

In every election, a government will be elected. If only one voter shows up, that one person will elect the government.

And as to your complaint that those in power don't do what you want, then show up and vote every time. Kick all our friends out of their house and get them to vote. You may not win the first or second time, but if we work at it we will get enough people to make a difference.

[Skwmom]

15. So people showing up in November will give us a good govt?

[Agnosticsherbet]

16. That is how it starts. People voting. It is that easy.

[Skwmom]

17. The BIG problem with that is if you vote people into power that keep delivering to the 1% to the

detriment of the people that is what they keep serving up (by hook or crook) for you to vote on.

[Agnosticsherbet]

18. Then vote them out of power by voting for some else. The system works if we show and vote.

[Ash_F]

20. You got the order wrong

First they failed, then people lost faith.

Well I guess they did not fail. Their controllers got what they wanted.


They failed the public.

[Agnosticsherbet]

22. The public failed to show up and vote. Which means the public likes what they got.

[ContinentalOp]

21. Yeah for FOUR MONTHS

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/mass-destruction/blog-of-mass-destruction-1.298992/when-obama-had-total-control-of-congress-1.332977

[Cheese Sandwich]

19. Pretty sure Democrats run San Francisco. And their solution to homelessness there is what?

Make it illegal? It's maybe the most liberal city in the country. They haven't done anything to solve homelessness. They can't figure it out.


San Francisco homeless camp swept from Cesar Chavez Street

[djean111]

3. Didn't Nancy get The Memo? Hillary says incrementalism is the only way to go!

For the 1%, that is. And they can stall on the increments forever, or else blandly say that just what exactly the increments are is up to them.

[Skwmom]

5. I have never seen Pelosi so sound so rattled.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

7. SF is in the middle of a big political shake-up.

There is a LOT of hostility towards the pro-business, SF Democrats right now, so much so that we are looking at a recall of our Mayor and we just elected a new DCCC slate that is about to shake some shit up. If things continue in that vein, Pelosi may find herself facing a Democratic primary challenge from the left. In Bernie's wake, a lot of Dems will be having to tack Left in order to stay in business. Including Miss Nancy.

[Skwmom]

8. Well any challenger from the left should check out the CSPAN footage on the DNC platform meeting

[Orsino]

10. Except when it comes to presidential primaries, of course.

Let's not go crazy here.

[JoePhilly]

11. Nancy pulled out from under the bus!!

[Waiting For Everyman]

13. Maybe she's beginning to realize

the she has been sold a bill of goods by some people she trusted, like the rest of us.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

24. Nope, Pelosi has been on the forefront --

of much of the pro-business Dem agenda. She is the one who spearheaded the partial privatization of San Francisco's Presidio when it was added to the GGNRA. Since then, turning various public assets in the GGNRA in private money makers has been a big hit with "Democrats".