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J_J_

(1,213 posts)
9. GOP exit polls were accurate in all the primaries, Dems way off
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

So GOP tells the truth and Dems lie to exit polls??- THAT is what they expect us to believe?

People were so embarrassed to vote for Hillary they lied about it?

FSogol

(45,480 posts)
10. Not true: "GOP exit polls were accurate in all the primaries"
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

Exit Polls are highly suspect, that's why the media largely ignores them. There are some sociology papers on how the dress, race, or gender of the pollster affects how people respond to them.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
12. the media uses exit polls to call elections before the vote counting
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jun 2016

Exit polling is data modeling so it accounts for thos ewho don't answer and the variance between the sample and the larger mix. GOP exit polls were within MOE. On the Dem side exit polls were as much as 16% off and always in favor of Clinton.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
15. Are you serious?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:57 AM
Jun 2016

Statement: "There are some sociology papers on how the dress, race, or gender of the pollster affects how people respond to them."

I'm sure dress, race, etc. affects how people respond to them as individuals (i.e., sociologically speaking), but that has nothing to do w/ their lying about who they voted for.

Exit polls are usually highly accurate. In the US this is not so now because the results are regularly tilted in a Repub direction and the polls have to be adjusted to fit the results spit out by the voting machines. The "Reluctant Republican Responder" thesis has become a standard theory to explain the difference between the exit polls and the machine results. The tilt is now built into the polls done by many pollsters, but the "unadjusted" polls are probably quite accurate and reflect the actual results rather than the machine results.

Of course, it's impossible to "prove" any of this because our election results are almost never VERIFIED and in many cases are actually UNVERIFIABLE. Until the results of EVERY ELECTION are verified by carefully done audits and when the audits reveal highly suspicious numbers the whole election is recounted BY HAND, there really can't be a democracy in the US again. This is what Beth Clarkson, a statistician here at Wichita State University, is running into in trying to get Kobach, the KS Sec of State, to allow her to compare the paper printouts of the elections in Sedgwick County with the machine result totals. The results are highly suspicious all over the country, not just in KS.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
11. I would be, if it were me.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jun 2016
"People were so embarrassed to vote for Hillary they lied about it?"

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. So you are comparing an absentee ballot exit poll....
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jun 2016

With a non-absentee ballot exit poll.

Well done.

onenote

(42,698 posts)
14. Am i correct that this is a self-selecting poll?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

From the description it looks like the pollsters sent email surveys to voters who had voted absentee (how many? randomly chosen?). And they were dependent on the recipient of the email filling it out and returning it.

Lots of questions there. What was the response rate? What does it mean when it says that the responses were "weighted by age." And so on...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Any exit poll that had only 0.07% (!!!) deviation
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:00 AM
Jun 2016

would be purely by accident. And it is not true that exit polls are very reliable.

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