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Sanders live on MSNBC now, following his meeting with Obama (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 OP
Sounds as if he's still rattled by the vote in California Zorro Jun 2016 #1
Sounds like he is sanguine and still in favor of what he's always favored. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #3
When does the "stop Trump" part begin for Bernie? PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #36
After he endorses, for the team "stop Trump". But Sanders has been hard on Trump forever. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #40
He must have been doing it privately. nt Walk away Jun 2016 #46
No Glamrock Jun 2016 #51
After Hillary wins the presidency I think workinclasszero Jun 2016 #61
Ya, I didn't buy that one either. Anytime he is challenged going after Clinton way more aggressively seabeyond Jun 2016 #80
He will compete in the final primary in DC. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #2
Every Democrat supports Statehood brooklynite Jun 2016 #49
But not every candidate actually bothers to stump for votes in DC democrattotheend Jun 2016 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #4
Go away. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #8
What are you implying? BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #24
SpartanDem? nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #31
Defiant as always. He needs to lose ALL his bargaining chips at the convention. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #5
We may have been watching different things Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #10
He needed to concede, because he has lost, and lost big. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #15
Obama apparently disagrees with you Armstead Jun 2016 #30
and rightly so. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #41
Obama wants the list. nt Walk away Jun 2016 #47
What does Obama need the list for? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #60
and so does the DNC leftinportland Jun 2016 #55
And lost big? Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #79
Thanks for the level-headed summary Dem2 Jun 2016 #19
Those who are so focused on trashing Bernie Sanders aintitfunny Jun 2016 #52
+1! NewsCenter28 Jun 2016 #78
Ya you go ahead and tout that and you'll lose the GE pinebox Jun 2016 #20
If you think that was "defiant" you have a perception problem Armstead Jun 2016 #28
amen. brother. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #35
When you're a rightwinger, any disagreement is "defiance." nt villager Jun 2016 #77
wow. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #39
How authoritarian of you. TDale313 Jun 2016 #53
"Sanders to Fight on After Meeting with Obama" Not a concession. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #6
I didn't notice him saying "fight on." Lord Magus Jun 2016 #12
Fight on for causes like Native American mortality rates, college costs, etc. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #16
He wasn't talking about a recount. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #18
It was a good statement. Set the right tone in moving forward. n/t cynatnite Jun 2016 #7
A beaten and shell shocked man. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #9
Oh please Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #13
Ahh, no, I don't think so. nt Duval Jun 2016 #58
What are you adding to the conversation? Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #62
I agree, he didn't have any of that classic 'fire'. You could tell because his face wasn't red. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #76
We've already seen the cards he's holding ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #11
Don't be a sore winner Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #14
Based on what I'm seeing around here, it's not really certain that Hillary has won. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #26
Amen to that. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #48
BINGO! ^^^This!^^^ BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #65
/ this deathrind Jun 2016 #54
Too late. n/t ljm2002 Jun 2016 #73
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #23
And deuces are not wild itsrobert Jun 2016 #43
Missed it! But saw header: SBS to contact Hillary soon about UNITY AGAINST TRUMP Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #17
Good. Lets get on with unity stuff!! DCBob Jun 2016 #21
you're a fine example of that today, yourself grasswire Jun 2016 #32
Im ready to unite with anyone ready to move on to defeat Trump. DCBob Jun 2016 #38
And it really looks like we are. SBS meeting with top Hillary supporters Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #69
I truly hope that your take is the BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #56
The fact that Bernie has fought to the bitter end... RichGirl Jun 2016 #25
we might think that... grasswire Jun 2016 #34
You sound like a cowboys fan after every loss realmirage Jun 2016 #42
please post proof of all the actual proven cheating and vote suppression. gracias! msongs Jun 2016 #67
Oh Jesus Christ! Stop with this bullshit already! beaglelover Jun 2016 #70
Paul Wellstone: Stand up! Keep fighting! grasswire Jun 2016 #71
. Squinch Jun 2016 #81
Big takeaway is that he and Hillary are going to work this out. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #27
Agreed...Sanders will work with Clinton to get Clinton elected alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #44
like the beating Hillary knew she would take in NH. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #45
Indeed alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #50
You mean the New Hampshire where Rove spent $5m+ in negative attack ads against her BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #66
meh. She won and is the nominee nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #68
I don't know about your choice of words... Native Jun 2016 #74
Decent statement. Finish primaries then work together. whatthehey Jun 2016 #33
He wasn't going to concede 30 mins after meeting POTUS Txbluedog Jun 2016 #37
But certainly the WH will give him time to wind down his campaign. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #75
I didn't expect him to concede gwheezie Jun 2016 #59
Well yes Jennylynn Jun 2016 #63
Tuesday after the DC primary will be good time to end it. DCBob Jun 2016 #64
I agree democrattotheend Jun 2016 #72

Stinky The Clown

(67,670 posts)
3. Sounds like he is sanguine and still in favor of what he's always favored.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jun 2016

He will work hard, he says, to stop a President Trump from being.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
80. Ya, I didn't buy that one either. Anytime he is challenged going after Clinton way more aggressively
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

than any Repug, or having lost, he always says that about going after Trump and says little to nothing. Continuing his attack on Clinton, DWS and DNC and any other Democrat that doesn't coddle.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
57. But not every candidate actually bothers to stump for votes in DC
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

In fact, very few do. I think it speaks to his character that he is keeping his commitment to campaign there even though it won't effect the outcome of the primaries and he probably won't even do very well there.

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Response to BlindTiresias (Reply #22)

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #29)

Stinky The Clown

(67,670 posts)
10. We may have been watching different things
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

I saw a guy who wants to finish his basic business and compete in DC.

I saw a guy who pledged before the nation to work with Clinton to defeat Trump.

I saw a guy who will get respect and - yes - a degree of power at the convention to have serious impact.

I heard a GOOD statement.

Clearly you don't see it that way.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
60. What does Obama need the list for?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

He's not running again, sadly Plus, he has his own really great e-mail list.

leftinportland

(247 posts)
55. and so does the DNC
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jun 2016

They have made no announcement regarding who is a presumptive nominee....so there ya have it.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
79. And lost big?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jun 2016

David took on Goliath with the party establishment fully behind Goliath and gave her a scare. BRAVO BERNIE!

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
19. Thanks for the level-headed summary
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

I hate the anger-spin that so many posts have, they'd have me believing lies.

aintitfunny

(1,421 posts)
52. Those who are so focused on trashing Bernie Sanders
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jun 2016

Don't really want Hillary Clinton to become the next president. Party unity encompasses a lot. I know Bernie will endorse and work for Clinton after the convention when she will become the official nominee.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
35. amen. brother.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jun 2016

“Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid ... Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”
― Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

Alex4Martinez

(2,180 posts)
6. "Sanders to Fight on After Meeting with Obama" Not a concession.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jun 2016

Not a concession but rather a commitment to fight on for important causes.

Looks forward to a meeting with Clinton to be sure to defeat Trump.

Has a DC rally tonight.

CNN mortified that he did not come out with a concession and promise to back Clinton.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
12. I didn't notice him saying "fight on."
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

He said he will compete in the DC primary, and then work together with Hillary to beat Trump. He didn't say he plans to drop out after DC, but it's clearly between the lines. I was very encouraged by his statement.

Alex4Martinez

(2,180 posts)
16. Fight on for causes like Native American mortality rates, college costs, etc.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jun 2016

As distinguished from fighting on for the nomination.

However, calling for a recount in California could be taken either way and he's not dropping out.

I think the most rational interpretation is that he's there if the party wants him but even if not he intends to push for the most progressive platform possible.

Some candidates just skulk away when the chips are down. Witness the many GOP entrants this year!


Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
18. He wasn't talking about a recount.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jun 2016

He was talking about how there are still ballots left to count. He also didn't suggest that he'd be the winner once the count is complete.

Stinky The Clown

(67,670 posts)
13. Oh please
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jun 2016

I saw and heard a dignified man who knows he came up short but intends to continue to work for the issues that matter to him.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
76. I agree, he didn't have any of that classic 'fire'. You could tell because his face wasn't red. nt
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jun 2016

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. Based on what I'm seeing around here, it's not really certain that Hillary has won.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jun 2016

You know ... flipped super delegates, uncounted CA ballots, voting irregularities, conspiracy, cheating, indictments, lawsuits, takin' it to Philly, contested convention, no concession speech, no congratulations. How can we be sore winners if there isn't even a loser yet?

Or ...

Don't be so FLICKING hypersensitive and overwrought when someone criticizes a candidate who (by his own account) is still in the contest. His own actions (or lack thereof) make him fair game. Just because he will (obviously) not be the nominee, doesn't mean that every thing he does is now "off-limits" and can be shielded from criticism by crying "sore-winner, sore-winner".

Puh-leeze!

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
17. Missed it! But saw header: SBS to contact Hillary soon about UNITY AGAINST TRUMP
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016


YAY! My take from what has been written and said on his statement is he is going to let DC voters have their say, and then concentrate on unity and defeating Trump.


WELL DONE SENATOR!

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
38. Im ready to unite with anyone ready to move on to defeat Trump.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

All this other email server crap and contested convention and cheating allegations is bullshit. The focus should be on winning in November. Hillary is our candidate.. good, bad or ugly. Time to move on.

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
69. And it really looks like we are. SBS meeting with top Hillary supporters
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

in DC today.

UNITY. It's happening

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
56. I truly hope that your take is the
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jun 2016

correct one. I am more wary, sad to say. I have been "Bernt" since the post-Feb NV caucus events.

Bernie still has not accepted that Clinton is the nominee, IMO.

Sure, let him compete in DC. I have no problem with that. Even after I quit liking him, I believed that he should finish out the primary season - I just wish that he had not continued to bash Hillary while he did that. But now he should quit playing coy with an outcome that anyone who knows DC - and I do - already knows.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
25. The fact that Bernie has fought to the bitter end...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016

...actually makes Hillary look stronger. He didn't just hand it over to her when the numbers were severely against him....he made her fight for it.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
34. we might think that...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jun 2016

..were it not for all the cheating and vote suppression from Camp Weathervane.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
71. Paul Wellstone: Stand up! Keep fighting!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jun 2016

You have no power over the tsunami that's coming this summer.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
44. Agreed...Sanders will work with Clinton to get Clinton elected
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

Everything else is window dressing and noise. I agree with his choice to let DC vote on two candidates. Surely, he knows that the shellacking he will take in the District will make California look like a soft caress. His willingness to go through with it is admirable.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
45. like the beating Hillary knew she would take in NH.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

Nothing wrong with letting everyone vote.

Sanders knows he's in much better position as a stakeholder in the next administration. If you pitch in now, you get to make demands later.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
50. Indeed
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jun 2016

You win some, you lose some. That's the fundamental rule of democratic citizenry.

Change from the outside sounds nice, but is exceedingly rare. Sanders well knows this: he made that determination 40+ years ago.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
66. You mean the New Hampshire where Rove spent $5m+ in negative attack ads against her
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jun 2016

and not spent a single dime on neg attack ads against Sanders? That New Hampshire primary election?

Native

(5,935 posts)
74. I don't know about your choice of words...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

I believe that Sanders has the right to take it to the convention, and based on his personality, though I wish he'd concede, I've been pretty convinced we'd never see that happen. If you listen to his entire speech, it is all very carefully worded. He never says he will work to get Clinton elected, and I doubt we will ever hear him formally endorse her for president. He will, however, and has pledged to do so, work with her to keep Trump from being elected. He has always been against Trump, but I doubt he will ever be "for" Hillary. I just don't see his ego allowing him to endorse her. I hope I'm wrong about that, but working alongside of someone to reach a common goal as opposed to admitting you lost and she won, are two entirely different things.

Plus, how can he possibly admit to losing now when he's been saying the whole time that the whole process has been rigged from the beginning?

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
37. He wasn't going to concede 30 mins after meeting POTUS
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

That would make everyone involved look bad. I think a concession is likely after DC. As long as he quits attacking the nominee and focuses on the republicans instead.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
59. I didn't expect him to concede
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

I think he will concede after the DC primary.
I thought Hillary's interview with Lester Holt she was very sensitive to Bernie and his campaign.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
72. I agree
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

That way he can keep his promise to campaign for every last vote, give some attention to voters who are usually ignored by national politicians despite being so close, and then end things on his terms.

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