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William Clinton: Sanders supporters 'will be toast’ He is trying to win over Bernie supporters. (Original Post) imagine2015 Jun 2016 OP
Well I guess bill is responding to so many Bernie supporters that say they won't vote for Hillary tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
But isn't that the "pragmatic" thing to do? Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #4
how arrogant to expect the former President to kiss ass. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #31
How arrogant to expect people of conviction to kiss ass Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #83
Bernie received 12 million votes. Obama beat Romney by 2.5 million votes. adigal Jun 2016 #21
he's really dumb for someone who is suppose to be so smart. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #87
+1 n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #26
Context means everything.... DonViejo Jun 2016 #2
Yeah, no, doesn't help. TDale313 Jun 2016 #9
Bill looks terrible - I think he is losing it. nt adigal Jun 2016 #22
What are they children? rock Jun 2016 #42
They are voters. Children can't vote. Gore1FL Jun 2016 #55
Exactly. You're not generally gonna win over voters by insulting them. TDale313 Jun 2016 #64
I guess they need to act like adults then rock Jun 2016 #72
Being adult = believing everything you do? Gore1FL Jun 2016 #74
It should. Or are you suggesting all Hortensis Jun 2016 #89
Bill Clinton is so ridiculous... has become such a joke- that I genuinely worry about his health. AzDar Jun 2016 #23
It's sad. And worrying. n/t moonscape Jun 2016 #69
So this was prior to Tuesday's primaries. book_worm Jun 2016 #27
some people think Clinton should take it and never respond back. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #29
Some people think politicians shouldn't threaten law-abiding citizens. senz Jun 2016 #66
Source? Link? Context? MineralMan Jun 2016 #3
right above you MM pinebox Jun 2016 #6
I was asking the OP, and didn't see that. MineralMan Jun 2016 #8
No audio, no video. Report from a FOX reporter. Like he can be belived. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #90
Enough is enough Txbluedog Jun 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #12
Sounds like a fellow citizen to me who can be addressed anyway the addresser elects TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #35
And the former President can respond any way he chooses, correct? n/m DonViejo Jun 2016 #40
Absolutely, and he can be told to consume a rusty dumpster full of Dicks when he says TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #84
a former potus,addressed as such??!! lol!!!!!!!!!!!? like he is royalty? avert your eyes serfs. wendylaroux Jun 2016 #60
OP pretends to care about unity, while mockingly dismissing the hope for it qdouble Jun 2016 #7
yup ... pretty transparent. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #25
Nobody owes him ANYTHING. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #10
you are one vote in 200,000,000 MariaThinks Jun 2016 #34
I am imagining June 16, 2016 itsrobert Jun 2016 #11
There'll be twittering birds...but they wont be on Bernie's podium. brooklynite Jun 2016 #37
It will be fantastic. DawgHouse Jun 2016 #41
Maybe your idol will issue an edict for censorship of the American people. senz Jun 2016 #70
Can Hillary get a divorce? It might make her election more palatable. Armstead Jun 2016 #13
Think of all the free time he's going to have if Hillary is occupied 24/7. Vinca Jun 2016 #14
he can get back on the special top secret computer again!!!! wendylaroux Jun 2016 #65
It was a "two-fer" in '92...and it's a two-fer today. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #17
Of course it's a two-fer marions ghost Jun 2016 #86
Yes, they need to up the secrecy. senz Jun 2016 #62
On the other hand, there is nothing he can say that would win me over. djean111 Jun 2016 #15
True. They do not mean well for us. senz Jun 2016 #49
A.K.A. Bullhorn Bill corkhead Jun 2016 #16
Remember the people's petitions to have Bill's illegal election tampering stopped? senz Jun 2016 #43
its a colloquial phrase like stick a fork in it, or that's the way the cookie crumbles. nt msongs Jun 2016 #18
William Clinton? Didn't he used to be somebody? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #19
God what a great quote about the sanctifying of success. Thank you. senz Jun 2016 #33
From the news reports I saw here in the Bay Area, this was said in response to hecklers. anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #20
Yes, the context of the Bernie supporters being rude hecklers has to be left out for this to matter. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #88
The true ugliness slips out. See him for what he is. senz Jun 2016 #24
agreed. Some people can be so rude to a former President. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #38
Then bow down before your betters. No need for democracy. senz Jun 2016 #45
Fuck Bill! floriduck Jun 2016 #28
That's usually his plan. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #53
He probably said it in anger MFM008 Jun 2016 #30
He's going to need a full time nanny...preferably male. libdem4life Jun 2016 #32
Don't assume that he will get back into the WH. senz Jun 2016 #36
transparent comment. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #39
Thanks for the reminder. I certainly hope not. libdem4life Jun 2016 #46
He is a horrible surrogate. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #44
Yes, he lets down the mask. senz Jun 2016 #47
The Twofer v. 2.0 ... be interesting if he continues to bullhorn and libdem4life Jun 2016 #48
Vice President Nelson Rockefeller responding to DonViejo Jun 2016 #50
Thanks for NAFTA, Bill. It was great losing all those jobs. People loved it. senz Jun 2016 #51
or... Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #78
Yep. Nice summary. senz Jun 2016 #82
Thanks for the Telecom Act, Bill. Media monopoly has been so good for this country. senz Jun 2016 #52
Thanks for WELFARE REFORM, Bill. Why should government help the people? senz Jun 2016 #54
Thanks for the Crime Bill, Mr. Clinton. Put those "superpredators" in private prisons! senz Jun 2016 #56
doesn't matter what he or anyone says at this point. wendylaroux Jun 2016 #57
Yep. They snatched the nomination from the only decent candidate. senz Jun 2016 #59
when is this from? wendylaroux Jun 2016 #61
It isn't a when WhiteTara Jun 2016 #67
Oh, are the quotations and the people quoted incorrect? senz Jun 2016 #80
Three days before the AP crowned her. senz Jun 2016 #79
Thanks for ending Glass-Steagal, Bill. We know how much you and she love Wall Street. senz Jun 2016 #58
Think about what Bill said. All who do not support Hillary "will be toast." senz Jun 2016 #63
Bernie Sanders wants everyone to be lifted up felix_numinous Jun 2016 #68
Hillary needs to put a muzzle on him democrattotheend Jun 2016 #71
"William" Clinton lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #73
Can you please post direct quote or link? bigwillq Jun 2016 #75
Someone needs to tell him that he done enough damage. atomingai Jun 2016 #76
hahaha! grasswire Jun 2016 #77
I really hope it's true that Hillary gave him a black eye. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #81
RIGHT...!!!! kadaholo Jun 2016 #85
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Well I guess bill is responding to so many Bernie supporters that say they won't vote for Hillary
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jun 2016

Or, they are saying that they will vote for Trump. Bill ain't beggin' ya or kissing your ass.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
4. But isn't that the "pragmatic" thing to do?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jun 2016

Isn't that the lesser of two evils? Kiss ass or Trump presidency?

Seems to me that if Sanders' supporters are supposed to swallow their ethics, pride and dignity, then Bill Clinton can do the same.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
83. How arrogant to expect people of conviction to kiss ass
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jun 2016

If HRC supporters, including former former presidents think that it is party above all else in order to win at all costs, then they can bloody well pucker up.

Personally I haven't asked anyone to kiss my ass, but it certainly wouldn't kill HRC supporters treat me like a human being and be polite.

If THAT little bit beneath your dignity, you need to stop preaching "pragmatism".

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
21. Bernie received 12 million votes. Obama beat Romney by 2.5 million votes.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary is smart enough to court Bernie voters. I think Bill is losing it. What a stupid thing to say.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. Context means everything....
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016
Bill Clinton: Sanders supporters 'will be toast’

Former President Bill Clinton did not mince his words when Bernie Sanders supporters heckled him during a campaign event for Hillary Clinton.

“If I were them, I’d be screaming too because they know they will be toast by election day,” Clinton said, according to a Fox News reporter at the event.

-snip-

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282287-bill-clinton-to-sanders-supporters-they-will-be-toast

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
9. Yeah, no, doesn't help.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

It's still a totally counterproductive and insensitive remark aimed at people whose votes you eventually want to win over. Not as bad as tea party left comments, but divisive and unnecessary.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
64. Exactly. You're not generally gonna win over voters by insulting them.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jun 2016

I can't believe that's a concept that needs to be explained.

Gore1FL

(21,104 posts)
74. Being adult = believing everything you do?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

That sounds so very much like an adult point of view.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
89. It should. Or are you suggesting all
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:11 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie's supporters are the kind of people who would go heckle an ex-president? That'd be quite an insult to all, when only a few deserve it, as Bill Clinton obviously felt.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
23. Bill Clinton is so ridiculous... has become such a joke- that I genuinely worry about his health.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. I was asking the OP, and didn't see that.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

The OP should have included those things, which was my point.

You were not the OP.

Fla Dem

(23,591 posts)
90. No audio, no video. Report from a FOX reporter. Like he can be belived.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

And even if he did say that, so what. It's Bernie that wanted to steer the Titanic into the iceberg. So maybe he should have said ice cubes instead of toast.

Response to Txbluedog (Reply #5)

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
84. Absolutely, and he can be told to consume a rusty dumpster full of Dicks when he says
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jun 2016

stupid shit.

I wasn't the one arguing about respecting some used to be office holder or even a present one, if you aren't in the military one is not obligated to respect and/or be obsequious toward a sitting President much less a former.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
10. Nobody owes him ANYTHING.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jun 2016

And I couldn't care less what he thinks.

I'm not very impressed with him either, and I vote, and I'm not alone.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
70. Maybe your idol will issue an edict for censorship of the American people.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jun 2016

Wouldn't you like that?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
13. Can Hillary get a divorce? It might make her election more palatable.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

Or at least tell the Big Dog to put on a muzzle.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
14. Think of all the free time he's going to have if Hillary is occupied 24/7.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jun 2016
Bubba's dream come true.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
65. he can get back on the special top secret computer again!!!!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jun 2016

sitting there in his wife beater under shirt,drinking red bull all night.just like he did when

h was sos. fun times!!

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
17. It was a "two-fer" in '92...and it's a two-fer today.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jun 2016

Only in '92, one of them wasn't showing signs of early-stage dementia...

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
86. Of course it's a two-fer
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jun 2016

anyone who doesn't see that is delusional...

Agreed, Bill has gone batty. He'll be padding around the White House thinking he's the prez again. You'd think he'd want to be as far away as he could from the scene of his past trials and troubles.

Narcissism + dementia =

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
15. On the other hand, there is nothing he can say that would win me over.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jun 2016


I just avoid looking at him or listening to him. A bit skeevy. And Third Way. Does not mean well for us.
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
49. True. They do not mean well for us.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

This election is about eliminating any remaining power of the people.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
43. Remember the people's petitions to have Bill's illegal election tampering stopped?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016

They were swept aside.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

-- John F. Kennedy

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
19. William Clinton? Didn't he used to be somebody?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jun 2016
“There is not a more perilous or immoral habit of mind than the sanctifying of success.” Lord Acton
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. God what a great quote about the sanctifying of success. Thank you.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jun 2016

I'm repeating it.

“There is not a more perilous or immoral habit of mind than the sanctifying of success.” Lord Acton

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
20. From the news reports I saw here in the Bay Area, this was said in response to hecklers.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jun 2016

Seems appropriate to me.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
88. Yes, the context of the Bernie supporters being rude hecklers has to be left out for this to matter.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:09 AM
Jun 2016

I've seen several threads about this subject, and every one started by a Bernie supporter makes it out like Clinton's remarks came out of nowhere, rather than in response to yet another instance of Bernie supporters being unable to listen to anyone other than themselves.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
30. He probably said it in anger
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

Why don't we cut him a break and move on?
Holding grudges is bad for your health.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
32. He's going to need a full time nanny...preferably male.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jun 2016

The thoughts of Bill Clinton, loose in the WH, with little or nothing to do...plus a little dementia. The press will be all over it, IMO. So what could possibly go wrong.

That's about the only area I feel sorry for HRC.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
56. Thanks for the Crime Bill, Mr. Clinton. Put those "superpredators" in private prisons!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jun 2016

Good for business.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
57. doesn't matter what he or anyone says at this point.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jun 2016

the only decent person to run for prez in many years,has lost

to a carefully coordinated primary. people only have the illusion

they have a choice in voting.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
63. Think about what Bill said. All who do not support Hillary "will be toast."
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

He is telling us what he and she have in store for the American people.

Wake up call.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
68. Bernie Sanders wants everyone to be lifted up
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jun 2016

and like me, even though they may not like me, I support everyone's human and civil rights and right to representation. We have gone after blatant corrupt practices that endanger us all.

The Clintons and supporters on the other hand, have spent precious time and money character assassinating us and attacking us, and ignoring all of the vital issues of the day, and shifting any possible discussions away from fighting corruption.

It sure has been a learning process for us. Censoring the truth will not make it go away.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
71. Hillary needs to put a muzzle on him
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

Seriously, what does he think he will accomplish for her by taunting/threatening Sanders supporters?

What was the context of this? Was he talking about politicians who endorsed Bernie, or about Sanders voters?

 

atomingai

(71 posts)
76. Someone needs to tell him that he done enough damage.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jun 2016

You disrespect other people, get the nomination, and then say "we're cool"!?


Really?

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