How is Hillary going to unite the party? I don't see it happening.

[pinebox]

I simply do not see this happening. At all.
The divides between the 2 candidates are so far apart and despite Bernie being so far behind, he is still packing stadiums to the brim with people. Day in and day out we hear many Sanders supporters how they will not vote for Hillary and it all boils down to a few things;

*Trust. They simply don't trust her.
*Wall Street ties.
*In policy, many Sanders supporters see her as Republican-light.
*A career politician and insider.

I want to know how Hillary plans to get over this hump. I know many will say that Bernie will come out and support Hillary but those who do may not understand that the movement isn't about Bernie, it's about US and returning our country to progressive politics.

Discuss please.

[hamsterjill]

1. One word.

Trump.

[pinebox]

4. I don't think that is going to work

I know lots of Hillary supporters say "Trump" but many Bernie supporters see Hillary from the same crop of corn, just a different row.

[LonePirate]

17. How committed to progressive values is someone if they help Trump win the presidency?

I don't think that paradox has registered for some people.

[HooptieWagon]

41. Yes. And Sanders does better vs Trump than Clinton.

Supporting Clinton carries a greater risk of Trump winning. Her supporters accept that risk, so they're in no position to use it as a club. Don't blame others for YOUR poor candidate.

[LonePirate]

59. First, I didn't vote for her. Second, she defeated Sanders so she's the nominee.

Like it or not but Bernie is not the nominee. Hillary is. That still doesn't excuse so called progressives who think their issues and America will fare better if Trumo wins. That's pure insanity.

[loyalsister]

77. It's not that people think they will fare better

They just have no hope that neither will be better than the other. Hillary talks about how great things are economically because unemployment is low, ignoring the fact that there are still very high poverty rates. There is obviously no expectation that Trump would do anything to help. But, they are both seen as too far removed because of their wealth and ties to Wall st.

[LonePirate]

80. There are plenty of uninformed voters on both sides of the aisle.

[peace13]

202. Those in denial are more the problem!

Past records are real, like it or not!

[SoCalNative]

133. There are far more things at stake

that Trump would work to overturn if elected. Also, there is the issue of SCOTUS. There's already one vacancy and likely to be at least one more during the next presidency. That alone should be enough to ensure one's vote for Hillary.

[loyalsister]

164. It's easier to see the big picture when you aren't hungry

But people who are having trouble feeding their kids all that matters is getting the next meal for them.

[SoCalNative]

172. Well they certainly aren't going to get it

from Trump or any other candidate. And honestly, it's not like Bernie has any way to get anything he wants to accomplish done. If you think it's a do-nothing Congress now..imagine what they would do with Bernie in office.

[Matt_R]

175. Such as?

I am curious what things some are afraid of, that would be so bad that I would vote for Clinton out of fear or Trump. BTW there is no way for me to vote for Trump, just give me a list of reasons to vote for Clinton, I'm still rooting for Sanders.

[Andy823]

79. Exactly.

I think that the majority of those that keep pushing this meme, that millions won't support Hillary, are nothing more than right wing trolls, or just plain old shit stirrers who would never have voted for her, or any other Democrat that won the nomination.

Anyone with half a brain can figure out that letting Trump win is not an option. I keep seeing these BS threads started and all they promote is right wing talking points designed to try and alienate Sanders supporters into NOT voting in November. The only person that benefits from Democrats not voting is Trump. It will be a disaster if he won, and set all the things that have been accomplished since Obama took office back to the kind of crap we had with George W., only this time it could even worse.

The trolls are out in full force right now, and my suggestion is that we stop feeding them and let them go back under their bridge until the next election when they will pull the same crap.

[Blanks]

107. Their days are numbered. eom

[SCantiGOP]

182. Can't wait till Thursday

That's housecleaning day at DU. We won't be subjected to these OPs anymore.

[handmade34]

189. try here

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

[Matt_R]

178. How will Clinton make things better for me, my family and community...

for generations to come. That is point blank, the only way for me to support Clinton going forward.

A positive message from Clinton supporters, instead of the fear induced vote Clinton, or else.

[redstateblues]

180. SCOTUS

[SCantiGOP]

192. And Matt R does have a valid point

But the answer of "that means Trump isn't President" is also valid.

[happynewyear]

103. Message from a European friend

I am amazed what's going on in US politics. Are trump and Hillary really the best you have..... I think the president election process is buggy.

Buggy my friend says. I say corrupt! Broken machines, votes lost and not counted, long lines, etc. The list goes on an on. Are we stupid yet or do we need more feedback like this from our allies in Europe to keep our pristine reputation as the leader of the free world?

Worried? Uh huh, very.

[larkrake]

105. tho reasonable, that is blackmail.........

this time I cannot choose destruction blue or destruction red

[hamsterjill]

27. Look, like it or not, it's a choice between Trump and Hillary.

Personally, I'm a Hillary supporter, so I have no problem with her. Happily voted for her in my state primary and will happily vote for her for President.

But that's me.

For others, the choices are still the same. Trump or Hillary.

If you vote for Trump, well, then you don't even need to be in this discussion.

If you don't vote for either, then that's one less vote for Hillary, and that failure to act enables Trump to win.

There are no other options that are feasible. CNN is now reporting that Bernie has completed his meeting with the President and has promised to work with Hillary to defeat Trump. Why would his supporters expect to do otherwise?

[hamsterjill]

124. The choice is Hillary.

Any other choice benefits Trump, and if you're okay with Trump, then you and I have nothing to discuss. The thought of Donald Trump running this country is offensive and disgusting to me AND it should be the same for anyone posting on DU.

[larkrake]

130. scenarios are comparisons, stop bloviating. If we dont consider the damage of a Trump presidency,

how can we convince fence sitters. May I suggest, since there is a trigger for you to jump into outrage, perhaps count to ten before implying things

[hamsterjill]

131. Utterly nonsense reply. There is no outrage.

Have a nice day.

[Matt_R]

181. I hate repeating myself, but this is important.

How will Clinton make things better for me, my family and community for generations to come. That is point blank, the only way for me to support Clinton going forward.

A positive message from Clinton supporters, instead of the fear induced vote Clinton, or else.

[zenabby]

199. Research

If you've listened to the debates objectively, gone to her website to understand what her positions are, you will clearly see the difference. But if you come from a place that no matter what she says, she is lying, and no matter what she does, it is corruption, then no one can explain it to you.

Someone at Hillary Clinton Reddit made an infographic..this might help: https://imgur.com/z7jGHdv
This post, from a minority female, on facebook (also found on Hillary Clinton sub reddit), might be useful: https://www.facebook.com/CStokesHudson/posts/10153545695156960

[Matt_R]

200. I guess you can't take the time to spell it out for us why Clinton should be supported.

Just more fear of trump in those links.

[zenabby]

205. Not at all

Not fear at all. The infographic is a comparison. The facebook writeup says what's at stake.

My take, based on my priorities. Your priorities may differ, I don't want to argue.

1. Historic woman presidency; first time in 240 years, great role model.
2. Cares about people genuinely, is committed to health care, education, children, women and poor people.
3. Has progressive values, but is sensible about how it will get done. She knows the issues, she understands the roadblocks, she plans out the policies and details in great depth, she comes prepared, she gets along with both sides of the aisle, is practical and will get the job done.

I guess you can take the time to read all of this up as well, if you are genuinely interested. I have access to nothing that you don't have access to. I have 1 vote and so do you. It is really upto you to decide how you want to cast your vote, and read up on it. A trump presidency is as bad for you as for me (or perhaps not- I am a Asian Americal woman)

That said, I do have concerns with her on the war front. I hope that she understands diplomacy is better and is not so quick to go to war. That is my main genuine concern about her.

[Matt_R]

207. Great points, but too much of a corporate candidate for my taste.

You wouldn't catch me voting for Regan either, but lots of Democrats thought he was great, although H. Clinton is to Regan's right.

1:: Being a woman candidate is great, but I would not vote for Fiorina either. Had Warren ran that's another story all together.
2:: That's great, I wish she wasn't such a corporatist supporting slave wages and child labor ala TPP.
3:: your kidding right? see 2. I will agree she is calculating and will "test" what she says, that's why some think she swings with the wind.


Please stop insulting me by saying that I would vote for ANY conservative candidate. Let alone Trump.

I guess if you had read the same things as I had, you wouldn't be a Clinton supporter either.

Edit: thank you for the reply, I was not expecting real reasons for support.

[zenabby]

213. woman

1. I would not vote for any woman either, I did not vote for Palin, would not have voted for Carly. That said, as a woman, I cannot deny that I am super excited to find a very qualified, competent, knowledgable woman to vote for, whose values are aligned with mine. Maybe that is hard to understand if you don't feel that way. We as women can lose our rights at any time - the whole history is filled with men dictating policies and terms - from what to wear to what to say. Not that men are bad, but you need representation. That's why we say the leadership should represent the people. That's why black cities should have atleast some percentage of black policemen. No matter how great men are, they do not really understand the issues that women go thru. It's like a man writing for a woman in movies - it only reiterates their own perspectives. We need women who can represent us. I feel Hillary is one such person who respresents me. Elizabeth Warren may be another, but she's been in public eye for a shorter time, so I need to see.

2 What do you mean by corporatist? Other than Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is there ANYONE you would consider non-corporatist? Anyone who has held office, held some power? The system is set up so that capitalism rules.Profits over everything. Retirements accounts are dependent on wall street. How do you propose to just make that collapse? Hillary has promised to address those issues, it will be incremental and not revolutionary for sure. But it moves the needle in the right direction. Trump? See what Elizabeth Warren said about him:

“Donald Trump was drooling over the idea of a housing meltdown because it meant he could buy up a bunch more property on the cheap,” Warren said. “What kind of a man does that? Root for people to get thrown out on the street? Root for people to lose their jobs? Root for people to lose their pensions? Root for two little girls in Clark County, Nevada, to end up living in a van? What kind of a man does that? I’ll tell you exactly what kind,” Warren continued. “A man who cares about no one but himself. A small, insecure money-grubber who doesn’t care who gets hurt, so long as he makes some money off it. What kind of man does that? A man who will never be president of the United States.”

3. Believe it or not, Hillary and Trump are your real two choices in this election. You may write in Jill Stein and get some votes out but in the end one way or other, you are helping either Hillary or Trump get elected. That's how democracy works. We all don't get exactly what we want, because there's a bigger majority who wanted something else.

[Matt_R]

215. Welcome to DU.

I hope you find a great group of people to have a conversation with.

[jillan]

209. Being a woman? Is that all you've got? Sarah Palin is a woman &I sure as hell wouldn't vote for her!

And I say this as woman who marched for women's equality in the 70s.

Her being a woman is not enough to earn my vote.

[hamsterjill]

201. Well, for one, she will appoint a liberal

To the Supreme Court, or is that just peanuts as far as you're concerned?

[Matt_R]

203. ok, who has she stated she would appoint?

I don't recall, is Obama still promoting a Centrist that the rethugs would confirm, or some liberal hold-out to show their weekness in reality.

[hamsterjill]

216. So you think Trump would do better?

Look, I'm just plain tired of the argument on a day where hatred has spewed enough.

It's either Hillary or Trump. Take your pick. But those are your choices. I know which I'm choosing.

[Matt_R]

218. Had to think for a few days, eh.

I think Obama would do great putting up a liberal appointee for the supreme court, only he didn't. Clinton has not put up any, unless you hear something I haven't.

[hamsterjill]

220. Spend your life online?

I don't. So, no, I didn't have to think for a few days. Real classy comment.

[Matt_R]

221. Its cool, a Clinton supporter used it on me a couple weeks ago, so its ok to point out.

[Matt_R]

223. By chance have you come up with a Clinton apointee to the supreme court?

[hamsterjill]

229. Clinton hasn't been elected yet, so NO, I don't have the name of an appointee.

Do you have tomorrow's winning lottery numbers by chance?

[Matt_R]

232. Currently the republicans are blocking Obama's centrist supreme court pick...

someone republicans liked in the past. And saying the one reason to vote for Clinton is she will pick a liberal, yeah I find that hard to believe. But I'll go back to it, Clinton has not "brought someone to the table" as a supreme court pick, so that tells me she has no one lined up that we would like, but that republicans would accept.

I have accepted that she is the Democratic nominee, I have also accepted she is a part of the conservative Third Way Democrats, I however am a Liberal, possibly a Progressive, and cannot vote for ANY conservative, even with a D behind their name.

[lewebley3]

151. It is already workng

[Gomez163]

176. You can start by changing your avatar.

[treestar]

230. Yes it would

We're talking about ALL of the voters, the soft middle that never turns out in the midterms, etc. thinks the President "runs the country" and is ultimately going to be embarrassed that Trump even has a major party nomination.

[Kelvin Mace]

12. To paraphrase the '92 Clinton Campaign

"It's the climate change, stupid!".

Neither Trump nor Clinton are going to do anything to reverse it. HRC pays lip service to it now, but will abandon it if elected and Trump doesn't believe in it.

Both candidates mean absolute irreversible disaster for humanity, it is just a matter of the time scale.

[insta8er]

14. She will be using fear....Trump

[HooptieWagon]

44. If they're so afraid of Trump, then why nominate Clinton?

Not my fault she's such a weak candidate that Trump stands a chance of beating her. Just like Clinton herself, her supporters are exceedingly poor at predicting the consequences of their actions.

[highprincipleswork]

29. Such a pathetic line of reasoning.

[hamsterjill]

85. Hey, thanks for your opinion.

Hope you have a great day!

Oh, and psssst: SHE WON!!!!!!!!

[larkrake]

109. she won 60% of dems that represent 29% of the population- her enthusiasm is in the basement and she

isnt winning over any more minds, She has peaked. Bernie will help as much as he can, but so many just dont want more of the same

[hamsterjill]

121. Seriously?

Do you live on the same planet that I do? Her enthusiasm is in the basement??? Have you looked anywhere today? She just got the endorsement of Obama and she's doing just fine.

[larkrake]

135. not outside the umbrella of the party shes not. Her unfavorables are historic, but you believe what

you want to believe. The OP topic clear. I,m not going to digress into an argument with you

[highprincipleswork]

165. I'm having a fine day, nothing to do w Hillary tho. Fear of Trump

is an undeniably pathetic reason to vote for someone.

[JoePhilly]

69. One other word .... Obama!

[JoePhilly]

70. One more word ... Warren!

[coco77]

92. Not going to change my mind one bit..

republiCONS will take up the slack, fear isn't going to work we have heard it all before.

[Beacool]

97. I was to write the exact same thing.

[hamsterjill]

128. Great minds think alike!

Right???!!! LOL

[RufusTFirefly]

104. What happens to your boogie man rationale...

... if the Republicans succeed in ousting Trump during the convention?

The Clinton campaign has been defined by special pleading. The rationale for voting for her keeps changing, but it always seems to be based on something she is or isn't rather than on something she did or didn't do.

[hamsterjill]

127. My rationale is no boogie man.

Vote for her, don't vote for her. That's YOUR decision. But the implications of not voting for her remain the same. Trump will not be ousted. The Repukes MAY try to pull something, who knows. But the bottom line remains the same. Either you vote for Hillary or you help a Republican.

I'm fine with what she's done in her long career of public service. I don't feel the same way about her that some here do. I think she's awesome, in fact. I cannot wait until she is Madam President!

[larkrake]

137. its still blackmail

[Lizzie Poppet]

123. "A smaller, slightly less pungent shit sandwich."

Now there's a rationale with appeal!

[Native]

132. One number.

70% of Bernie's supporters have already said they'd vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination (if you're into polling).

[hamsterjill]

138. I'm not into polling, but I'll take it.

I fully expect that by the time of the election that most (no, not all, but MOST) Bernie supporters will be voting for Clinton. Bernie will ask for their support for her, and most will understand the need for unity.

[peace13]

139. Trump= be afraid, and I'm full up on fear mongering.

The R's are more afraid of Trump than you are. You best worry that they don't come up with a real candidate that Hill will have to try and defeat. Trump=Be Afraid, you won't find buyers here!

[hamsterjill]

152. It's not fear.

Its common sense. It's the ability to see what's best for the country. Trump's not it.

Do you really want this lunatic to appoint the next justice to the Supreme Court? Do you really want this idiot building the wall?

[peace13]

157. You are afraid of what won't be.

The right is scurrying to remove Trump and there is a good chance he won't be the nominee. Look at how the powers that be controlled Obama. He wasn't in office three months when he mocked the progressives who worked their asses off to help get him in office. If for some odd reason Trump were to go to the WH they will dope him up and prop him up just like they did * and Ronny.

So why worry about Hill you may ask. She would come to office with greased skids. She comes with enemies from her SOS dealings, pockets lined from people that she owes favors, friends who are no enemy of war and a disregard for the election process that she refused to speak out about.

Long story short, nothing good can come from any of this. The people who drove the bus are jumping out and yelling,'What, what!' And I say, 'what were you thinking! You did this and there were other options.'

[hamsterjill]

174. No, I don't think so.

I'm a full fledge Hillary supporter. I think she's awesome, and I'm in great company.

If @I@ did this (as you said) meaning if @I@ contributed to Hillary winning the nomination, then I'm doing just fine.

[Betty Karlson]

211. You've played that card too many times.

If you really are scared of Trump you'd do everything to make Bernie the nominee - he polls far better against Trump than Clinton, who is behind in a few polls.

[hamsterjill]

217. Baloney.

Bernie is irrelevant on the general election ballot at this point. It's Trump or Hillary. Get used to that.

[Loudestlib]

227. You could have just said: Bush!

This tactic worked great for Kerry.

[CrowCityDem]

2. It's about reminding them that agreeing 90% of the time means you're on the SAME SIDE.

[pinebox]

6. Hmmm interesting thought

I'm on the fence with that one though.

[larkrake]

110. but no one else agrees with Clinton 90%, its more like 10%

[QC]

34. Humans and chimps share over 98% of their DNA,

but that 2% makes a big difference.

Agreeing on naming roads and courthouses while disagreeing on economic and foreign and environmental policy doesn't mean much.

I would like to see a genuine effort to address the concerns that motivated Bernie's people. That would do a lot to get me on board.

[CrowCityDem]

38. She was already accused of stealing his platform. That's not enough?

[QC]

45. Talk is cheap. Action is better. n/t

[CrowCityDem]

46. You can't act until you're in power to do so, meaning there's nothing she can do to sway you.

[QC]

56. Sure she can. I've been voting straight Democratic tickets

for over 30 years. Hell, I was even able to drag myself to the polls for Mondale and Dukakis.

A firm commitment to, say, a real ban on fracking, free of the lawyerly verbiage so beloved of both Clintons, would help. A real plan for dealing with college affordability--not the We will let you refinance your crippling loans at a somewhat lower rate crap--would help.

It would be nice to feel good about voting in November, and some of us out here really do care about issues.

[CrowCityDem]

65. But if you say "talk is cheap", why would you believe her if she said those things?

[QC]

78. Put someone credible in charge of dealing with those issues.

Here's a good one to look at -- declining life expectancy among the working class. Working people in America are killing themselves directly--suicide--or indirectly--drugs and booze--in larger and large numbers as their economic prospects decline. This is a direct result of economic policies that favor capital over labor.

I would be favorably impressed if HRC would publicly acknowledge the problem and put a genuine advocate for the working class in charge of finding real solutions--meaning not just more student loans to get more training for jobs that will already have been offshored by the time you get the certificate.

I know of a very good advocate for issues like these. He got about 45% of the delegates in a recent primary.

[CrowCityDem]

81. And we circle back to Hillary needs to submit her platform to Bernie.

[QC]

89. And here we circle back to the difference between politics as

a means of making positive change and politics as football.

I think we need to do some things in this country because they are the right thing to do.

You want to spike the ball and dance in the end zone.

Does it bother you that so many working people are throwing their lives away? Do you think we should maybe try to do something about it?

[CrowCityDem]

90. What part of Hillary's platform doesn't qualify as "something"?

Is it where she wants to raise the minimum wage?

Is it where she wants to install tougher regulations on Wall Street?

Is it where she wants to expand health care coverage?

Is it where she wants to make college affordable?

Is it where she wants to invest in clean energy, to the point of "putting a lot of coal workers out of work?"

We're talking about degrees. Hillary doesn't disagree with Bernie's goals, but just has a different idea of how to get there, and how quickly.

[QC]

94. Again, it gets at credibility. Put Eliz. Warren in charge

of financial regulation and that's compelling. Talk about being "tough on Wall Street" when you've always been very cozy with them and it comes across as posturing.

Talk about "making college affordable" when you're not challenging the causes of high ed cost inflation or the student loan system is pointless.

People are hurting in this country and making small changes here and there won't help much. It's time for some boldness, and the party has some good people to send out there to star making some progress. There's no need to be timid.

[d_legendary1]

87. In case you forgot the Dem base is split down the middle

If Clinton wants to win in November she'd better figure out a way to win voters like our friend you responded to. The "not Trump" card isn't going to work. Its the same as these religious nuts telling us we're going to hell for not believing their garbage. Sanders already said that if she wants his supporters then she's going to have to earn them just like he did. If we're a lost cause to her ambitions then so be it.

This is a real issue for her weather you believe in it or not. Such is the nature of primaries especially a heated one like this one.

[larkrake]

111. lip service, no believes those words from her

[Godhumor]

3. All signs point to it already happening n/t

[pinebox]

5. I don't see it happening anywhere, point in the direction please?

I'm being honest here

[Godhumor]

21. Sanders surrogates advocating for wind down, Warren's impending endorsement

MoveOn advocating wind down, Sanders reaching out to Brown and Obama, reports that the Sanders and Clinton camps are now in regular communication, hell, even #girliguessimwithher is trending on Twitter.

Support had started to coalesce. It will continue to do so. And I think you'll be amazed what happens after Bernie endorses Clinton, as well.

[pinebox]

26. Surrogates though aren't stadiums packed with voters

These are .org's. They aren't people.

Bernie may very well endorse Hillary but if twitter is any indication, along with jammed packed arenas, Bernie or Bust, I don't see a lot of his supporters giving way to her.

Also read the tweets in that hashtag, they aren't exactly beautiful when it comes to Hillary https://twitter.com/hashtag/girliguessimwithher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

[radical noodle]

39. It won't happen overnight

Some will not see the change for weeks. Bernie and Hillary will point out the similarities of what they believe and people will start to see Hillary as being more, not less, like Bernie.

[Lord Magus]

101. The vast majority of Bernie supporters will go to Hillary.

And "jam packed arenas" really don't matte. Especially since Bernie hasn't actually held any of those huge rallies since losing CA on Tuesday.

[JoePhilly]

72. Don't "see it" or " don't want it"?

[redstateblues]

185. "What a fool believes, he sees"

[Duval]

11. What signs?

Please tell me because I don't see them.

[eastwestdem]

7. I'm not sure his supporters are as important as some may think. It doesn't seem that they can be

counted on to actually get out and vote. And no one thinks that any large number of them will support Trump.

[pinebox]

19. That is where you are incorrect

See, many Bernie supporters are indie voters, people like myself, in fact last I heard we make up the majority of his supporters. Now due to DNC crap, how many of those indie voters weren't allowed to vote in primaries? However they can in a GE.

No they won't support Trump either. But many won't support Hillary either.

[eastwestdem]

30. What is your argument for non-Democrats voting in a Democratic presidential primary?

Why should people who are not affiliated with the party have a say in who the party picks for their nominee?

[Duckhunter935]

43. We pay for it

[randome]

49. You also pay for roads you don't use and hospitals you don't use and parks...etc.

EVERY party is supported by tax dollars, which is a very equitable arrangement.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[Duckhunter935]

63. And we are not barred from using them either, are we?

[randome]

67. And you're not barred from joining any party you want.

Pick a party, any party. But stop sitting on the sidelines and thinking you're entitled to vote in any and every party you want on a whim.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[Duckhunter935]

74. I am in a registered party of my choice

They are not allowed to participate.At least this year it changed for my state.

[peace13]

159. You forgot ...and wars you don't want. So funny you forgot that one!

Pretty sure there are more of those on tap but no worries. They probably won't be in your neighborhood.

[eastwestdem]

50. So should we all be able to vote in each of the primaries. I pay for the repubs primary as well,

so, shouldn't I get a say?

[randome]

52. It would be Libertarian Heaven!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[HooptieWagon]

47. Tax-payers are paying for it.

If you want a private club, don't take public funding.

[randome]

51. You also pay for roads you don't use and hospitals you don't use and parks...etc.

EVERY party is supported by tax dollars, which is a very equitable arrangement.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[HooptieWagon]

57. But not banned from using them.

[randome]

61. Same thing. You're not banned from joining any party you choose.

You cannot join ALL parties because that would simply be ridiculous.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[Duckhunter935]

71. As an independent

Up until this year, I was barred from participating. I exercise my freedom of association as is my right. You would force me to associate with a group I did not choose to do so I could participate in a process I helped pay for. At least this year the Democrats were inclusive and opened the doors for me to participate.

[larkrake]

112. to build the party and expose the cons

[eastwestdem]

113. This would be done more effectively from within. There is no way to know if those

independents are really trying to "build the party" or vote for who they think is the weaker candidate.

[mythology]

146. Then why did Clinton win more open primaries

It's hard to make a convincing argument that Sanders would have gotten the nomination if it weren't for that meddling DNC when he did so poorly in open primaries (and primaries in general).

[Matt_in_STL]

33. I have seen your posts the last couple of days and note you are a fellow Warriors fan.

You make me hope the Warriors lose.

[libdem4life]

158. This is a joke, right? Really not funny. I'm going to tell Steph.

[HooptieWagon]

54. You're right. 10s of millions of Sanders supporters aren't important to the Democratic Party.

I'm sure they'll find another party that values their support.

[redstateblues]

186. Tens of millions? Try 12 million

Hill will get most of them. Probably not the few hundred on DU

[HooptieWagon]

193. Many couldn't vote.

Closed primaries, mysteriously changed registrations, work school or child care preventing them from caucusing. There are more than just those able tovote in primary. And DUers are fairly representative of Democratic Sanders supporters, thus more likely to vote for Hillary in Nov. But most Sanders supporters are younger Independants, not likely to post on DU, not likely to vote for Hillary in Nov out of Party Loyalty. Let that sink in...Sanders supporters on DU are the MORE likely to vote for Hillary. And it doesn't look like you have even half of them. Even Trumps meltdown is a concern, as the GOP may decide by their convention to nominate another candidate, any of whom would be far stronger against Hillary than Trump.

[NCTraveler]

8. It's clearly already happening.

It seems to be really bothering a small group of people.

[DCBob]

9. Here's a good article indicating it will happen..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/08/will-bernie-sanders-supporters-rally-behind-hillary-clinton-now-heres-what-we-know/

[jzodda]

10. This is how I think it will go down....

We have 5 months to go and in my humble opinion Trump will do all the heavy lifting.

He will say things that enrage minorities especially again and again. This will drive huge turnout on our side.

As Obama, Bill Clinton and Sanders (eventually I hope) campaign on Dem priorities and talk policy Trump will be the biggest and best unifier we could ever hope for.

[larkrake]

114. I think the RNC is seeing that too and may bump trump. A new face is where the frustrated will go

someone with bigger likability than Hill. No, leaning on hope Trump will drive voters to Hill is a huge risk.

[uponit7771]

13. Over 40% of Clinton voters in 08 said they wouldn't vote for Obama, its only 27% for Sanders voters

... and Clinton has a real evil person running against her.

Not hard

[jzodda]

24. You forgot to add

That of those 40% much less actually did not vote for Obama. I forget the number but it was a low number who in the end didn't.

and yeah Trump makes Romney look like the nicest guy on earth in comparison.

[uponit7771]

64. Link and quote? tia

[jzodda]

82. Ill try and find

From what I recall it was on CNN Anderson Cooper a few years ago....I will hunt some on my break

[uponit7771]

95. thx

[jzodda]

96. Here you go and its current!

Its from the Washington Post yesterday

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/08/will-bernie-sanders-supporters-rally-behind-hillary-clinton-now-heres-what-we-know/

"Post-ABC polling tracked Clinton's 2008 primary supporters throughout the fall campaign and found they steadily gravitated toward Obama during the general election. Obama's support among Clinton primary supporters rose from 64 percent in May to 73 percent in mid-September, 79 percent in mid-October and 83 percent by Election Day, according to the national network exit poll."

[uponit7771]

98. Thx so much for this!!

[jzodda]

99. Anytime

[BlindTiresias]

15. She isn't

And that is not the plan anyway. The plan is to try and gain the moderate republican cohort at the cost of the left wing, as the moderate republicans are both much more closely aligned with the leadership of the democratic party (and their donors).

[yourpaljoey]

22. Republicans will turn out in droves to vote against Hill

Even though she wants to hand them everything they desire on a silver platter.

[grossproffit]

190. You'll be disappointed.

[OKNancy]

16. If you don't want to unite, then it won't happen. Fortunately Sanders is making the moves necessary

to unite and nothing you can do or say on this site will change that.

Looking forward to working against Trump.

[jwirr]

184. It is not Bernie that she needs to unite with. Bernie is one

vote in the GE. He also told the media some time ago that he cannot tell his followers who to vote for. And he is right - we know what we are going to do.

[yourpaljoey]

18. It ain't gonna happen

Hillary is everything Sanders ran against.

[MFM008]

60. No Rump is

You just don't like Hillary.

[larkrake]

115. trump is against free trade too

[840high]

76. yep

[NWCorona]

20. As bad as this primary was it still wasn't as bad as 2008 IMHO

The party will come together but to what extent is the million dollar question.

If Bernie endorses Hillary then I'd expect a large percentage to fall in line behind Hillary but not enthusiastically. The biggest road block will be the platform Hillary adopts and the VP she picks.

That said. I expect the Green party to have its best showing ever.

[pinebox]

23. I think this has been much worse

although in different ways.

The disparaging remarks aimed at younger voters has been completely off the hook. Bill can't keep his mouth shut and the ideals of the old guard VS the young wolves is quite a drastic difference. Younger voters are a great deal more liberal, we see this in the fight for single payer and a living wage, things the rest of the modern world has.

It isn't about Bernie though, as I stated, it's much larger than that and I agree with you about Greens.

[NWCorona]

31. I guess both cycles had their low points but I just remember it being

So visceral back then. Brothers were stabbing each other arguing over Hillary and Obama. Maybe in time after this has all sunk in I will feel definitely.

[djean111]

36. The two candidates are so far apart on the issues it is remarkable.

As long as Hillary and the DNC are for war and fracking and the TPP and increased H-1B visas, among other things I hate, I see no path to unity. Like "hey, a little war won't hurt ya!" or "Well they only frack in poor communities, so its kinda okay" type of thing - for me, won't work. And anything Hillary says now, to me, is just campaign pandering. Been there, done that. I fully expect to see DUers defending cuts to Social Security and the like, if Hillary is president. The party just went so far to the Third Way neocon right that, for some of us, there is no way to stay with it.

Has nothing to do with Bernie, by the way. I would have supported anyone with his platform, ideas, and ideals.

[FSogol]

58. And yet they voted the same way, 93% of the time.

Also not true: "Has nothing to do with Bernie, by the way. I would have supported anyone with his platform, ideas, and ideals."

You were vocally against O'Malley despite him being an anti-war, anti-fracking, against the TPP and Keystone XL, and wants to expand Social Security candidate.

[JonLeibowitz]

134. Sure, if you count things like Post Office namings as the same importance as war authorizations.

That doesn't make much sense to me, so I'll pass on such a reductive comparison.

[larkrake]

136. thank you.

[Cosmocat]

91. It is marked worse than 08

I voted for and am perfectly fine with Bernie and what he has said and done.

But, his support is completely different from BHO's support. BHO support was so much more confident and positive. Bernie's support has had the worst case of little brother syndrome you can imagine.

That said, Bernie will join ranks with Warren, BHO, Biden and other major Ds in going after Trump and the rest of the jackasses, and given time most of his supporters will move past their disproportionate sense of importance and either vote Hillary or just not show up.

[MineralMan]

25. You could help. We all could help.

It's not just up to Hillary Clinton. We all have to participate in creating unity. There is much at stake.

[pinebox]

37. I have my own opinions on the matter MM

and that's all I'm saying.

[MineralMan]

40. I have no doubt whatever that you do.

My statements stand. You could help with party unity. We all could help.

I plan to be working on that, non-stop, until November.

[NurseJackie]

28. Here ... LMFTFY

Discuss Entertain me please.

[NWCorona]

32. Both can be the same thing.

[NurseJackie]

35. True. :-D

[Demsrule86]

42. Bernie has to go first. nt

If you don't want to help then too bad for you.

[larkrake]

117. give it a rest

[pinebox]

143. Too bad for you

that many don't want your candidate.

It's attitudes like yours that only emblazon that fact.

[peace13]

163. You'll need to lose the attitude before you head downtown to organize Hills neighborhood canvassing

As much as you hate Bernie and his supporters, they might just be your feet on the ground!

[realmirage]

48. Don't worry Pinebox, the PUMAs didn't have any effect either

And the Democratic Party went on to protect the country from the republican machine the last 8 years. We are on the verge of taking the Supreme Court for the first time in forever, and we'll continue to move the country away from conservatism without your help. You'll be here to reap the rewards of our work, and vote for candidates from parties that can't win so you can soothe your anger from the primaries. Meanwhile, we'll actually get things done. That's why Sanders became a democrat in the end: it's the only way to get anything done. Without it, you get another 8 years of Bush, only worse, 8 years of Trump. I hope you're wealthy enough to survive 8 years under Trump. Lucky for you, you won't need to be. We'll stop him for you. We will do the work. And when you wake up and remember who your allies are, we'll still be here.

[pinebox]

145. You don't understand

nor would I would I expect you too.

[realmirage]

169. The only change that can be made is to be active in the Democratic Party and help shape it.

Vote for candidates within the party that you like - that includes state and local level. Change the party from within if you don't aspects of it. But going outside of it, I don't see what can really be accomplished. America is mostly moderate. They will make fringe movements irrelevant forever. Change happens slowly. Always has. If you want the country to move left, you have to take the only giant leftist party, the Democratic Party, and pull it left, from the inside. Abandoning it gets out your frustration in the moment, but in the end you accomplish little to nothing.

And if the only choice in the presidency is a Democrat that isn't your first choice, vote for that person anyway, and pull that person left and help prepare the next one you do like to win. That's the only path to real change. You think the Libertarian party will ever become a thing? The Constitution Party? Don't become the leftist equivalent of those guys. Think on it awhile. You're free to do what you want. I just wouldn't want you to waste your time on things that are going nowhere.

[Adrahil]

53. Well, despite "packing stadiums"...

including a YUUUGE rally in Oakland, Bernie lost. It's hard for me to see Bernie as some sort of great uniter either. I would have voted for him if he got the nom, but frankly, the more the campaign has gone on, the more he has confirmed my suspicions of him.

I think Sanders supporters have to simply get some space from the daily Hillary Hate fed to them from some wings of the party (many of them not even democrats). Some will never be won over, but C'est La Guerre.

In the end, Hillary will do a couple things, I think:

- Nominate a solid progressive Veep.
- Be nothing but complimentary to Bernie from here on out.
- Accept a couple platform planks from Sanders to acknowledge the support he garnered.

Most of the hardcore Hillary Haters won't be swayed by anything specific in any case, so no need to spend tons of time trying to woo them. I know a number of Sanders supporters (including my own wife) and all except one are already onboard with her, and the last one will eventually. Just my own personal experience, but there ya go.

[FSogol]

66. +1 n/t

[frazzled]

55. How is Bernie Sanders going to help unite the party?

Here's what my nephew wrote on a Facebook Post today:

This century, in double standards that won't die even though primaries are over. 2008: HRC loses nomination, bears brunt of public calls to unify party. In 2016: HRC wins nomination, bears brunt of public calls to unify party.

[Blue_Adept]

102. That is FAR too accurate

Scarily so.

[Miles Archer]

62. Maybe she will, maybe she won't.

It's entirely possible that we could go through a four year administration without a "united party."

And it's entirely possible that we could go through a second term the same way.

All I know is that she and Trump look like our final choices for November, and if that means we have to make it through four years without a "unified party" as opposed to four years of Trump, we may just have to find a way to get through the next four years "ununified."

[larkrake]

118. she wont have a second term if she betrays us, and I feel she will betray the people

[Miles Archer]

125. It's not that easy to run against a President in their second term.

Three considerations:

1). She would really, really, really need to anger the party as a whole.

2). There would have to be a Democratic candidate able to run against her and win

3). She would need to be seen as a liability running against a charismatic and popular Republican challenger (not convinced that one actually exists) and any Democrat running against that Republican would have to create a strong level of assurance that they could win

I'm not a political expert...my fellow DUers may be able to point out 50 things wrong with my logic because I am simply not that well-versed in the rules and regulations.

But the short version is that she would have to anger / disappoint a majority, and any challenger would have to be dipped in gold.

[larkrake]

141. By then there will likely be a progressive running with a shiny new answer to

wars, corporate rule and corruption. Who knows. fate has a sense of irony and humor. If she angers and does not improve life in the US, it will be less an effort to unseat her, and we know if Trump is Pres, he will be tossed

[Miles Archer]

150. It just can't be Bill's 3rd term.

If you take the list of every criticism of his two terms and that becomes her agenda, there will be dissenters.

If she surprises us, she gets a second term.

There is no way of knowing what she's going to do, especially since the "2 for 1" deal are her words, not mine.

"2 for 1" with Bill on board could mean a lot of things.

[larkrake]

161. Bill has slipped mentally- sad to see, but we all face it dont we

at this point, given Nafta and the trade agreements Hill will push through, they will be villified

[Miles Archer]

162. I think she knows exactly what it would take for her to be a one-term President...

,,,and exactly what it would take for her to be a two-term President, and I can't read her mind...or Bill's.

[Ohioblue22]

68. The percentage of Bernie's people that won't vote for her is statistically small and normal for

Every Election

[larkrake]

119. You are extremely in error. They wont vote her, they will enthusiastically support down ticket so

Trump can be blocked, Ryan can be blocked. We have no faith she will get votes above minorities and her sisters

[bettyellen]

231. Sanders' supporters have been ignoring downticket races in the primaries- Wisconsin was a huge

disapointment, in NJ none of my Berner friends knew a thing about who was on his ticket.

[valerief]

73. You sound like you don't like wars.

[Zambero]

75. Trump will do most of the uniting

Nearly half of Hillary supporters were not going to support Obama at this point 8 years ago. But the vast majority came around, to a large extent courtesy of Sarah Palin's weird antics and blown interviews. It's one thing to risk a fool within a heartbeat of the presidency, but if the candidate at the very top of the ticket is a proven fool and worse, it's not a very tough sell getting rational people to oppose him, given the consequences.

[larkrake]

120. how many people are rational when two jobs dont pay the bills and kids are shot by cops?

[wyldwolf]

83. "I don't see it happening."

[justiceischeap]

84. Really, the only ones I see being holdouts are here on DU, Reddit and Twitter

my real-life friends who are Bernie supporters may not volunteer or campaign for Clinton, but they're certainly going to vote for Clinton (or vote against Trump--however you'd like to put it).

PS. Bernie is a career politician. He didn't just pop up in politics overnight.

[peace13]

144. Funny because I don't know one person who will vote for her!

Seems odd that thinking folks would throw values and principle and the thought of a better country away with the drop of a hat. I don't see it. I truly am saddened that this country has come to this! If Hillary does run I am out for good. * took my forties and I will not watch or listen while Hillary Clinton skirts sideways the laws and rules that the rest of us must live by for the next nine years. We are leaving nothing for the children. But as you say everybody is doing it so, good luck to you!

[justiceischeap]

147. Yeah, well my friends are thinkers and are in it for the long game

They know what's at stake if Trump wins:

The US Supreme Court (which can and will do more damage to this nation than any sitting President--outside a nuclear holocaust)
Roe v. Wade (would surely be overturned by a GOP-heavy USSC)
Marriage Equality (they'd find a case and advance it to the new USSC to get marriage equality overturned)
ACA, which isn't ideal but it helps, gone.

See how all this keeps going back to the USSC? We have a President for 8 years, we can have USSC justices for decades--my friends know this too. We also know that there's a certain amount of privilege that goes with our votes. We can say fuck it, and not be hurt by the decision as badly as say, as single mom, or hispanics that Trump would so love to deport, or Muslims he'd like to ban... we're not real sure how he feels about Jews yet... So yeah, my friends are also concerned about letting a fascist-sounding racist run the country because that goes against some of their values and principles too.

My friends know, sometimes, you have work hard for change... of course, most of my friends are LGBTQ, so we all know about fighting the long fight and not always getting instant gratification but if you keep making noise, you finally get heard.

Finally, my friends also know that you aren't going to change 240 years of politics in 4/8 years.

[amandabeech]

206. I hate to say anything nice about Trump, but two of his children have married into

the Jewish faith. Ivanka married an Orthodox Jewish young man, and converted. Eric (I think) married a Conservative Jewish young woman, but I don't think that he converted.

So there does not appear to be any personal animus toward individual Jews that he knows.

[justiceischeap]

212. He says he has Muslim friends too

but talks about deporting Muslims and banning new Muslims from entering the country. I wonder if he realizes how many African-Americans are Muslim and can't be deported?

[MariaThinks]

86. flamebait and a time waster. goodbye. you are the first person i've put on ignore.

[pinebox]

148. Repaid :)

[redstateblues]

179. I've never put anyone on ignore but this poster's hatred

Is almost too much to take on a daily basis

[Orsino]

88. Hers is the greatest, but not the only, responsibility.

Folks who want a Democratic win, or at least a Republican loss, are likely to assist.

[BootinUp]

93. Its really up to the DEMOCRATIC PARTY to unite. No one person

can do it. Thanks for your concern.

[Lord Magus]

100. Nonsense.

The divides between the 2 candidates are so far apart and despite Bernie being so far behind, he is still packing stadiums to the brim with people.

Contrary to the insistence of some, the divide is quite small. And I'm not clear on what relevance the "packing stadiums" is supposed to have.

[joshcryer]

108. 2008: How is Clinton going to unite the party?

[pengu]

116. I have little common ground with Clinton

I'm not interested in war or free trade. I'm out this cycle. There's nothing she can say to get my vote since I think she's a liar. I also think progressives would be absolutely foolish to unify with her. You'll get nothing but the back of the hand for your troubles.

[jamese777]

149. I think everyone should vote

The next president could conceivably appoint three Supreme Court Justices and determine the legal future of this nation for a generation.
I could care less if any individual votes for Clinton, she'll get somewhere between 60 & 65 million votes regardless (in 2008 she got between 17 & 18 million votes in the primaries. This year she has 16 million with some votes still to count), but why not go third party or write in?
And there's always that paragon of honesty, Donald Trump.

[pengu]

160. Oh I'll vote for sure

I ALWAYS vote. EVERY election. It just won't be for a D this time. It will be a protest vote. It probably won't be D for senate either if Grayson loses. Patrick Murphy the max-Romney donor is awful too. House is gerrymandered R here. It won't matter. Same with my local races. State amendments are always a big deal and always worth voting on.

[YouDig]

122. It's happening right now. Obama, Elizabeth Warren. Bernie soon too.

A big unifying factor is going to be Trump. Whatever differences there are in the Democratic party, nobody wants Trump.

[larkrake]

126. congress critters have to cheerlead for the party and against Trump, its a given

Warren feels she can work with Hillary and I think Hill will hear her

[Ferd Berfel]

129. agree.

none of the wretched evil crap that Bernie supporters has gone away.
THe third way neocons she has around her still want to kill social security and Medicare
she is still the same chicken hawk - so more Americans and brown people from other countries will die for no damn good reason
the Military industrial congressional complex will continue to be fed

What could go wrong?

[Lance Bass esquire]

140. It's already begun.

Seen this movie before. In the end the majority will join together and rally around the nominee. Seems to be happening on a much faster scale this time around due to the Republicans nominating a certifiable psychopath. JMHO

[jamese777]

142. Primary Elections are a poor indicator

of what will happen in the general election. At best, a third of the electorate vote in the primaries.
"Primary Turnout Means Nothing for the General Election:"
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/primary-turnout-means-nothing-for-the-general-election/
For the general election you get folks who are very marginally interested in politics at all. At best they
watched one debate, at worst, they make up their minds based on who is the cutest, whose name they've heard the most, or the political party their parents go with. Millions of voters will be folks like Paula Jones from the Clinton sexual harrassment lawsuit: "Republicans? Are they the good 'uns or the bad 'uns?"

[seabeyond]

153. She is already doing it. Many people are not hte handful on DU. Du is not indicative of the real

world. As we saw with the vote.

[RufusTFirefly]

154. By making a citizen's arrest of Lloyd Blankfein

Short of that, I don't see it.

Furthermore, if the GOP ousts Trump and puts in someone Republican who isn't a lunatic or a loose cannon (there are one or two of them), she's going to be in big trouble.

Why settle for New Coke when you can have Pepsi instead?

[Miles Archer]

188. Or, at a minimum, a four year moratorium on Blankfein photo ops.

Although I do give him credit for not giving her a high-profile endorsement.

http://fortune.com/2016/02/03/goldman-sachs-hillary-clinton-blankfein/

Why Goldman's CEO Will Not Publicly Endorse Hillary Clinton

He hasn’t directly donated to her campaign either.

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein won’t say who he is backing for president. The reason: He thinks his support could be toxic.

In a CNBC interview this morning, Blankfein, who has been a Hillary Clinton supporter in the past, was asked if he is again supporting the Democratic frontrunner, who narrowly won Iowa. Blankfein dodged the question.

“I don’t want to help or hurt anybody by giving them my endorsement,” he said.

[RufusTFirefly]

194. Of course, Lloyd's company already coughed up $675,000 to Hillary

You know, because she's such a unforgettable orator.

[Renew Deal]

155. Are you voting for her?

[pinebox]

167. Why do you ask?

[Renew Deal]

170. You have an interest in unity

Just wondering where you stand

[pinebox]

173. I stand besides whoever best represents me.

[wendylaroux]

156. from the post I just read they laughing about Bernie bringing coffee to the white house

and then the gang all making fun of uncouth Bernie and wife.

These are elitist hags who will make sure less people will be

voting for her.

[XRubicon]

166. ...

[pinebox]

168. Actually, this is a little more relevant

[Waiting For Everyman]

196. +1 Right on, and love that song. So true. nt

[Waiting For Everyman]

171. HRC won't get about one third of Sanders people.

She thinks she doesn't need millennials, or independents, or us Boomers who aren't on board, or the cannabis vote.

She thinks all she needs is the PoC over 40 vote, and the hardcore Dems-no-matter-who. I think she's wrong, but time will tell.

There's only one way she will get my vote, and that is if Sanders agrees to be her VP. I doubt that she would ask him, and doubt that he would accept. From what I've seen and heard, I think a lot of people feel the same, if that matters we will see.

Not Warren, not another "progressive", only Sanders.

[Miles Archer]

195. I just don't see that happening.

I don't see her offering it to him, even if it would bring in his supporters' votes.

I could be wrong, but I just don't see the possibility. I don't see Elizabeth Warren being offered the spot either.

I keep seeing Sherrod Brown and Julian Castro's names coming up. They have mixed appeal here on DU, but most of DU knows who they are. If I went to ten of my friends and tossed their name into a conversation, they'd go "Who?" But every one of the ten would know Sanders and Warren.

My prediction is that Clinton will pick someone palatable to the Democrats as a whole...not too progressive to anger her base, not too close to her own platform to anger progressives, but it will not be someone with a profile in the mass consciousness that is equal to or higher than hers.

[TwilightZone]

197. One third is much too high. It's already lower than that.

Polls show 70-80% are already on board. That number will go up when Sanders concedes and endorses her.

"She thinks all she needs is the PoC over 40 vote, and the hardcore Dems-no-matter-who. I think she's wrong, but time will tell. "

No one believes that except a few diehard Sanders fans.

Hillary certainly doesn't. You're projecting.

[redstateblues]

177. Hillary haters like you will never see it. People see what they want to see.

Any "progressive" that votes for Trump is not a progressive.

[LuvLoogie]

183. By running her campaign and beating the opposition. The door is open and there's beer in the fridge

[HassleCat]

187. I guess there must be a plan to accomplish the unity.

So far, not much. The plan consists of telling Bernie supporters they were foolish to back a loser. "Your guy lost, so you need to recognize how stupid you were." But that comes from some of Hillary's supporters, and it probably does not represent the thinking of her campaign. We'll see. It will require more than just silence and appeals to party loyalty. Of course, there is the fear of Donald Trump, but that only goes so far. Fear is not unity.

[jamese777]

191. Political Parties Are Not Unified

They never have been and they never will be. A dynamic political party has as much in-fighting as it has fighting against the external opposition. That's healthy.
In modern times, both major parties have left, center and right factions. In my city (San Diego) our Republican controlled newspaper just endorsed Ronald Reagan for president. They couldn't bring themselves to endorse Donald Trump.
There will be a signifcant number of Democrats who will not vote for Hillary Clinton. So be it, nobody is going to beg them. Their loss can be made up by new registrants, particulalr People of Color and more specifically Latinos offended by Trump's racism. Latinos are 18% of the population but only 10% of the electorate in 2012 and they went for Obama 71% to 27%.

[AgadorSparticus]

198. It is already starting. Big Dem players are already starting to pivot to the GE

It has only begun. ...

[peace13]

204. She does not think that is her job.

And as you say....she has a full bag of very unsavory issues.

[laserhaas]

208. Bern or Bust Movement FOREVER. HRC took money

From Goldman Sachs...who deliberately destroyed our eToys public company...along with my career

And people died

Never Hillary....NEVER

[Peachhead22]

210. Support DNC rule changes and pick the right running mate

If Hillary picks DWS as her VP all bets are off. Clinton can argue "she's from a swing state" all she wants, but it'll fall on deaf ears. She'll lose Sanders supporters forever and no amount of concessions would bring them back. Perhaps not Elizabeth Warren as her VP. But someone from the progressive wing of the party. For that matter, support someone else to head the DNC too. DWS putting her thumb on the scales is bad enough. Being so obvious about it is worse. It's even given Trump a talking point.

And most importantly, get the lobbyists and big money out of the DNC! It's a 180 degrees counter to the Democratic brand.

Also, support some rule changes wrt super-delegates. Reduce their number and put a gag order on them till after the primaries.

[MaggieD]

219. Wake up - it's already happening

Not having Trump be president is your reward. You're welcome.

[Rex]

224. Donald Trump is uniting the party, HRC doesn't have to do anything.

I am not sure we will ever really get progressive politics.

[TheKentuckian]

225. The same thing the Emperor planed to use to hold the Empire together with after desolving the Senate

FEAR.

Fear of the Great Orange Buffoon.

That and essentially tribalism.

[apcalc]

226. What

Ever.
Do what you want.

[Wayburn]

228. Very tough for anyone to reunite our party