Bernie Sanders Doesn’t Owe the Democratic Party a Damn Thing

[Playinghardball]

Bernie Sanders brought millions of new people into the Democratic Party, including young people, independents, and first-time voters. But what has the Democratic Party done in return?

Now that all states and territories have voted (with the exception of Washington, D.C.) and Hillary Clinton has emerged as the presumptive Democratic nominee, the pressure is mounting for the Vermont senator to drop out and endorse Hillary Clinton, and for his supporters to fall in line and vote for the candidate the establishment pre-selected before anyone got a chance to vote.

The media never gave Bernie a chance

Months before Bernie Sanders announced his campaign for the Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton had used the powerful connections her family has long had to Democratic Party insiders to virtually secure the nomination with an insurmountable lead in superdelegates. This led to the establishment media crowning Clinton as the “uncontested” nominee, who was “poised to win the Democratic nomination without a serious contest.”

More here: http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-doesnt-owe-the-dems/

[Faux pas]

1. A-M-E-N

[jzodda]

11. He Lost...

Its not about the Democratic Party.

He owes this country to NOT help Trump in any way, shape or form. The most progressive leader in a generation can't let Trump come in there and wipe away Obama's legacy.

He can help HRC win and then we can start to try to move his issues through legislation but if he "burns" it all down we won't have a legacy to save will we.

[JimDandy]

30. Well said. n/t

[erlewyne]

116. Yes. I agree ...

Well said.

[bvf]

90. +2. n/t

[GulfCoast66]

94. Your first sentence

Pretty much says that because I supported Hillary I a want trump win.

Can you not at least admit that many of us in good faith think Hillary will be the stronger candidate and better president.

I get it you disagree, but I do not assign your support of him to any nefarious beliefs.

I like Bernie and would have supported him but truly think he would have lost the GE.

Have a nice evening.

[vdogg]

106. Have you looked at the polls today?

Hillary is doing just fine.

[rhett o rick]

136. Good. I guess there is no need to keep disparaging Sanders and Sanders supporters then. nm

[DJ13]

108. Good post!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

126. Can't disagree, but now we're stuck with Hillary... unless the FBI has something to say about it.

[rhett o rick]

137. I am not giving up until the Convention. But one way or the other, our work is just

beginning. We need to work down ticket to build a progressive base so we can eventually throw our those in government that are corrupted by the Big Money and Big Corporations.

[Lord Magus]

141. Nope. Bernie is not the stronger general election candidate.

And please quit insulting the voters by pretending our choice wasn't legitimate.

[rhett o rick]

142. How is being critical of the election system an insult to voters. Once all Democrats were

united against Big Money influencing our government. Now only the Progressive Democrats feel that way.

[Lord Magus]

144. What you're really being critical of is the outcome.

More people voted for Hillary than for Bernie. A lot more. This wasn't rigged, the majority of the primary voters just wanted her to win.

[rhett o rick]

145. How do you know it wasn't rigged? Sounds like wishful thinking. We know the Powers That Be

rig presidential elections. We saw evidence of voter fraud and disenfranchisement in most states, all of it favoring the Powers That Be's favorite candidate.

I do understand the need to believe that your government is good. But if you are wrong, the wrong people will pay. It will only hurt those among us that are vulnerable and suffering. That's who we are fighting for. Why hate us?

[Lord Magus]

146. No we didn't see "evidence of voter fraud and disenfranchisement in most states." Or any states.

For somebody who's so proudly of the left, you're quick to resort to RW memes when you don't like an election's outcome.

[notadmblnd]

55. No, the poor and the middle class lost once again.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

127. So true... Bernie was their last hope.

[GoneFishin]

102. If you were concerned about Trump you should not have supported the weaker candidate with all

of her baggage.

Don't look around now for someone else to blame for your mistake.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

128. Not disagreeing... but now we have to make the best of a bad situation. What choice do we have?

[yourpaljoey]

36. R-A-m-e-n

[Sheepshank]

2. But he wants the Democratic Party to owe him much.....he really doesn't play well. n/t

[democrattotheend]

5. They need him more than he needs them

He is beloved in Vermont and is unlikely to need DSCC funds to get re-elected. They need him to continue caucusing with them in the Senate. He could leave the caucus and probably still get reelected easily. And right now, they need him to help get his supporters on board with Hillary.

Most politicians in his situation are easier to pacify with some sort of personal reward, such as a cabinet post, committee chairmanship, etc. They are having a hard time figuring out what to do with Bernie because all indications are that he doesn't want that - he actually cares about the issues he is advocating for.

[libdem4life]

6. Owe, such as? Play Well? Rather vague and dripping with insignificance.

[Ned_Devine]

56. I'll say this

You really post some of the most ridiculous things. It's almost as if there's no thought process for you to go through before you write it down.

[Hiraeth]

67. I don't think he thinks that way. He might think the Dem party owes the American People

but, not just him as an individual.

[NNadir]

3. Whatever. He never was a Democrat anyway, and what he does and does not do will determine...

...whatever tiny place he has in history, so it's his choice.

[Hiraeth]

66. and that means your place is in history is ....

significant .... ?

[That Guy 888]

95. Apparently neither was I, and I had been voting for Democratic candidates since I could vote. n/t

[workinclasszero]

4. Jeez get over it already

Life goes on even if your guy lost.

[JimDandy]

34. This is in direct response to you all's constant posts that Bernie was allowed to run as a Democrat

and that because of that he now has an obligation to do what the Party tells him to do going forward. So yes, get over it already, life goes on.

[notadmblnd]

60. No, Bernie didn't lose. The Working class and the poor lost yet again.

[lunamagica]

70. The working class and the poor chose Hillary

[notadmblnd]

72. You keep telling yourself that.

[lunamagica]

74. It's the truth

[notadmblnd]

75. Keep telling yourself that

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

130. They always seem to lose when the establishment is in charge... why is that? hmmm

[notadmblnd]

132. because they don't see us as human.

And don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. Once they wring every cent we ever produced in our lives- out of us ,we can all eat shit and die. They only need enough of us to drive their limos, mow their lawns and clean their shit stains from toilets.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

129. Some life... what could have been.

[baldguy]

7. How far would he have come without them?

Was it his plan from the beginning to use the party for all it's worth, and then unceremoniously dump it one he won?

Thankfully he didn't win.

[bettyellen]

9. And it's really strange giving him credit for so many new voters when it's clear HRC had a lot more

Support than he does. Not all of the new voters are Berners.

[rhett o rick]

26. Wait? I am getting confused. Are you saying that Clinton doesn't need his supporters? If so

then why are you bashing him for not helping her? Which is it?

He brought out those people looking for an honest candidate. Some will support HRC out of fear, but many won't because of Hillary and whatever he says won't change their minds.

[bettyellen]

41. I didn't say either of those things, lol. Not so good on the listening part are you?

[rock]

61. It's known as deflection

If you don't like the question asked, answer another one!

[bettyellen]

62. Yeah, they need to keep up the belief that all new voters were Berners...

[Surya Gayatri]

20. Exactly. "How far would he have come without them?" Not very damn far.

[Ned_Devine]

63. That statement implies that they helped him at all

Unless their idea of "helping" him was to stack the primary schedule against him, give him zero coverage, hire a party chair that was the former chair of HRC's 2008 campaign, accuse him and his supporters of being racist, sexist and any other nefarious word that ends with -ist, tell him to drop out on a steady basis from the first month of the primary onward and if he doesn't he's a racist and responsible for Donald Trump. Is that the "help" the party gave him to get him so far? What a joke.

[baldguy]

97. He wouldn't have received his 12.5 million votes without the (D) after his name.

Not nearly.

[Ned_Devine]

98. Do you deny any of the content of my post?

[baldguy]

110. Show the official DNC press statements supporting your charges.

That's right, there are none. Because it's bullshit.

Meanwhile, Sanders thought he could use the DNC organization, DNC funds and DNC voter lists to gain the WH. Thankfully he failed.

[Ned_Devine]

112. DNC press statements?

Are you actually this obtuse? There's no need for a press statement because these things actually happened. I should have known I was communicating with an "Even when they're wrong they're right" blind loyalist. This conversation can stop now.

[baldguy]

114. Oh, so it's a conspiracy. Or should I say **ANOTHER** conspiracy?

Sanders lost. He lost fair and square. Under rules that he understood & agreed to when he signed up as a Democrat. And the reason he lost isn't the DNC's doing, but due to the fact that he spend a good deal of his time bashing Democrats and the Democratic Party with baseless accusations - much like you've done.

Sanders is the proverbial dog who bites the hand that feeds him. Such dogs don't last long in the caregiver's good graces.

[Ned_Devine]

118. Time for beddy bye, fella

You're getting all worked up. The great part is that you seemed to hope to want to sound clever with your lines about dogs and care givers and so on. It was adorable.

I have no problem saying factual things about the democratic party. They're just the new corporatist conservative party that keeps its voters pacified by convincing them that their social security will disappear without them, or that the social issues we hold dear will vanish without them. Yet at the same time they're totally cool with drone strikes on brown people, the TPP, fracking, hiring an insurance lobbyist to be your state's insurance regulator if you're the Gov. of CT., giving secret $250K speeches to the same Wall St. banks that tanked the economy in '08 and then claiming to want to rein them in, promising to close Guantanamo but then backing down because the GOP didn't like the idea, laughing and fist pumping saying "We came, we saw, he died." after finding out a world leader was murdered, saying "Impeachment is off the table" in regards to Bush and Cheney in 2007 for their war crimes, and this list could go on.

I'm not going to swear allegiance to a party that cares more about its donors and corporate paymasters than poor people like me. So please, save the dog and caregiver analogy. I'm sure it sounded really smart in your head and probably felt great to type out, but it's totally ridiculous and I think you're pretty ridiculous too.

[Number23]

87. Exactly. It's beyond clear that Sanders needed the Dem party a hell of alot more than many Dems feel

that they need him.

[RogerM]

8. Democratic Party Doesn’t Owe Bernie Sanders a Damn Thing

Get over it. It is OVER. THE END.

[tonyt53]

27. Exactly. What is clear though, is that many of Bernie's followers feel entitled to something.

I'm not exactly sure what, but something.

[rhett o rick]

28. It's far from over. We aint siting down and shutting up. We've just got a good start.

We are going to fight against the culture of corruption of Big Money in our government. We are fighting to end poverty. Wish you were on our side.

[Thirties Child]

65. They just don't get it.

I don't think they've ever understood that this is about principle, about the direction of the country, about the good of the people, about going back to the Democratic Party of FDR. Sometimes I think they must be too young to know what the party once stood for. I'm an octogenarian, cast my first vote for Eisenhower in 1956, am old enough to remember what once was. The Democratic Party has tilted so far right, I can no longer recognize it. The Republicans have gone the way of the John Birchers, and the Democrats have become moderate Republicans. This leaves a vacuum where the Democratic Party once lived. Let's fill that vacuum.

[DLCWIdem]

80. Just remember.

Te party of FDR was a racist party that embraced Jim Crow and desegregation. In addition, glorifying FDR as the be all and re-visioning history is not the way of progress. In order to.get his New Deal passed, FDR worked with business. It was by no means adversarial relationship.

[rhett o rick]

84. Wow, another new Hillary fan jumping in.

[Scuba]

123. "...by no means adversarial ..." You seem to have forgotten the "I welcome their hatred" part.

[JimDandy]

39. Yes, I am really really hoping, just like you that Sanders moves on

Just like I did. I was a one-party, life-long Dem for 35+ years. I got OVER it after the Party's shenanigans in NV and left the Party for good. As did nearly ALL the Dem lifers in my family.

THE END.

Bernie PLEASE move on!!!

[Lord Magus]

44. The only "shenanigans" in NV were that Bernie supporters tried to steal the convention.

But they got voted down because they were not the majority. If you "left the Party for good" because that, good riddance.

[JimDandy]

69. Not true. But I'm not interested in educating you...

[Lord Magus]

99. Not interested and also not capable. -nt-

[AgadorSparticus]

119. So then why are you still on a democratic website?

Why don't you join the green party's website?

[qdouble]

10. The "Bernie Sanders brought millions of new people into the Democratic Party" meme is getting old.

Bernie had less votes than Clinton and Trump...and less votes than Clinton and Obama in '08. If he is such a boon to the democratic party, why aren't they showing up at the voting booth?

[kadaholo]

12. I Guess...

a bigger question might be why so many votes were not counted and why so many folks were not allowed to vote.
Still pondering...

[qdouble]

13. It's a conspiracy of course.

[ContinentalOp]

14. How is he bringing them into the party if they're not registered Democrats?

Independents by definition haven't been brought into the party. And especially if they refuse to support the Democratic nominee or stay home and don't vote for other Democrats down ticket. Judging by his supporters' constant attacks on the party, the primary system, the superdelegates, and just about every respected long time Democratic politician, I don't think he has brought them into the party at all. Arguably he has turned a number of people against the party and really only drew people into his own cult of personality.

[Hekate]

47. Zap!

[KingFlorez]

15. He is the one who thinks that he is owed something

[NCTraveler]

16. The Democratic party is a participatory organization.

It isn't about owing or being owed. These are comments based on self and in opposition to what progressivism truly means. It's about having skin in the game and trying to do the most good for the most people. Participate or don't. That is on the individual. I participate and attempt to influence the group.

And yes, the party is allowed to ask me for favors or support.

[rhett o rick]

31. What a strange thing to say, "and trying to do the most good for the most people."

Do you honestly think that an administration that was bought and paid for by Wall Street and the Banksters will have any thing to do with, "the most good for the most people."?? If you do, you know nothing about capitalism and corporations. Profits are their only goal. And to hell with the poor.

[NCTraveler]

37. Sorry you find that to be such a strange thing. I have noticed that trend.

It's like you didn't read my post. That is what is strange here.

Happy Friday!!!

[tallahasseedem]

17. So let me get this straight...

An Independent who ran on the Dem ticket and wanted to be our Dem nominee for President doesn't owe the party anything after he legitimately lost the primary. Okie Dokie.

This is becoming the new PUMA movement and it's already a tired movement.

[GoneFishin]

103. " ... legitimately lost ...". Delusional much? nt

[demwing]

111. Let me set you straight

Sanders has brought more to the Democratic party than he has received in return. He brought new blood, new enthusiasm, and a new take on our old dreams. In return he was...what? Vilified? Lied about? Dismissed?

If you're tired, go take a nap.

[athena]

121. You can't have it both ways.

You can't have Bernie supporters go on about how they will absolutely not vote for HRC, and then turn around and claim that Sanders has brought voters to the Democratic Party.

[Orsino]

18. And yet he's pledged to Democratic wins in November.

He seems to feel he owes that much.

[MariaThinks]

19. people just don't get it. I hope you enjoy the reich under the republicans if they win

and destroy SCOTUS.

but you can feel warm that you posted this type of whatever you want to call it.

[GoneFishin]

105. If she is the nominee then Trump will win. You have no one to thank but those who voted for the

weaker candidate with the corporate ties and sketchy baggage.

Don't bother looking around for someone else to blame for your own mistake.

[Hekate]

21. The Dem Party allowed him to use its infrastructure, which he had NO part in building...

...and is worth millions of dollars to any candidate. He then proceeded to "bite the hand that fed him" throughout the campaign.

He failed to actually educate the folks who came to his rallies (how and when to register to vote, how to check their status, the importance of registering AS DEMOCRATS TO VOTE IN A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY) and then kept telling them the system was rigged and unfair when they had failed to comply with logical rules in place before they were born.

Initially I was glad to see him in the race. He and Hillary have voted together something like 93% of the time; did you know that? And she, not he, brought a Socialist health care plan before the Senate; did you know that? She also got crucified for it, and a lot of the canards against Hillary that are repeated today by BS supporters originated in the feverswamps of Right Wing strategy in those days.

The media gave Bernie every chance in the world. They never had a bad word to say about him, and you know why? Because they never took him seriously enough to even bother with basic journalistic research. It was an incredible blessing for Bernie. Every nasty question and innuendo that Andrea Mitchell lobbed at Hillary has a counterpart for Bernie -- but remained entirely unspoken.

As for the GOP candidates, their oppo file on Bernie has got to be mighty thick, and what they can't get from the Vermont newspapers they will simply pull out of their butts, because it's what they do. But have they? No, because they never took Bernie seriously either. They have expended all their considerable venom on Hillary Clinton, hoping to bring her down. In their fondest dreams the GOP wants to run against Bernie, a colorful, if angry, old man from a tiny state who's never ever been vetted by the mainstream media.

Instead, the GOP has to put up Tinyhands Trump against the woman with a spine of steel, a woman who has always made the men in that party clutch their delicate parts defensively.

Bernie "owes" the Democratic Party a helluva lot. Now let's see if he returns the favor in any measure at all by bringing his people over after a suitable period of mourning.

[Skwmom]

25. Use their infrastructure. You mean the infrastructure that consistently helped Clinton?

[Lord Magus]

46. Without that infrastructure how many of Bernie's supporters would've ever heard of him?

It's often brought up that Bernie was a little-known senator until late last year to highlight how much he accomplished by coming this far in the primaries. But had he instead announced an independent bid for the presidency last April, he would've remained a little-known senator. It was his running in the Democratic primaries that gave him the high profile needed to attract so many new supporters.

[skylucy]

48. I agree with everything you just said. 100% Right on!

[Number23]

88. + a million. If he'd been half as focused on educating his supporters on how the registration and

voting process worked as he was on fundraising, this whole thing may have turned out differently.

And what's so funny is that so many of his supporters keep screaming that black people, women and everybody else were the ones that needed "educating" but it wasn't black folks that didn't know how to show up at the polls and acted like lunatics, screaming death threats at Democratic officials when things didn't go as we wanted.

[treestar]

93. [phone]

[GoneFishin]

107. I am sure he regrets it. He let them get close enough to stab him in the back. They lied about him

and cheated their asses off in nearly every state.

Every tentacle of the Democratic Party machine worked to tilt the playing field against him.

It's vindicating in a way that the DNC knew she couldn't win without rampant cheating.

[niyad]

125. wish I could k and r this.

would you cross-post this in women's rights and issues?

[Hekate]

133. Thanks ... and done

[Hekate]

139. It's being less well-received there than it is here.

Ce'st la vie.

[niyad]

140. but you did make it to greatest there!!

[Scootaloo]

134. Your reality appears to be a vast and interesting place.

Have you considered writing a few novels set in this fantastical landscape?

[TDale313]

138. They let him run as a Dem because they never thought he'd gain any traction.

They had cleared the decks of all "serious" contenders and the grumbling from the left that Hillary would effectively be running unopposed was beginning to build. They thought what the hell, throw the lefties a bone. If he gets 10% of the vote it'll be a miracle.

Bernie had caucused with them for decades- been a reliable Democratic vote on most issues, voted his conscience when he felt it was right. He and Washington Dems had a mostly warm and mutually beneficial relationship before this primary season. He had supported many Democratic candidates over the years. But yes, he called them out where he felt they were in the wrong- often on economic and national security issues.

Once it became clear Bernie was actually gaining traction in the primaries, every lever the DNC and Democratic Party had at their disposal was used to give Hillary more of an edge than she already had. Which, fine, they had a candidate they preferred. I get that. But this pretense of "They gave him all this help, threw their arms around him and stabbed them in the back" Bull fucking shit.

Dems should be thanking their lucky stars he's a man of his word and won't run third party.

[niyad]

22. and the Democratic Party owes him NOTHING as well--certainly not getting his way on the rules

committee, nor on HRC's cabinet picks (both reported on this board)

works both ways.

[Hiraeth]

68. and ...... you have some power over all this ....

how .... ?

[niyad]

71. where do you come up with that? I am simply pointing out to the OP that his assertion works

both directions.

[Tarc]

24. "The media never gave Bernie a chance"

It isn't the media's job to cheerlead a politician. We're not the USSR publishing Pravda here.

[3hummingbirds]

32. media

Corporate media, especially MSNBC, was pro Hillary from the beginning.

[Tarc]

45. MSNBC is the most leftist of the "corporate media"

If that isn't enough for you, perhaps you're just too far down the spectrum to... matter?

[lancer78]

79. They might be leftist

But Maddow was riding Hillary like a rodeo clown.

[GoneFishin]

109. Yeah, right. You are a regular comedian.

[DLCWIdem]

100. bull shit

Chris Hayes and LOD were fairly pissing over themselves with glee over him and worshiped at his feet. Rachel also had a crush on him until he showed his hypocrisy by going after the SDs. She also did not like that he tampered with her reporting and tried to convince voters that he did not compete in the South. She had whole segments on how he had women teaching campaigners to " talk to black women" and how he was first down in the south opening offices, before Clinton.

[Lizzie Poppet]

29. To it's membership, sure. To it's "leadership?" Not a thing. (nm)

[MyNameGoesHere]

33. Except a quick and overdue exit. Eom.

[msongs]

35. no democratic party = no bernie or bernie's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. more delusional thinking from

the bernie crowd

[quickesst]

38. Bullshit...

If he hadn't joined the Democratic Party one might be able to say that with a straight face.

[Lance Bass esquire]

40. I would think

By that logic it would work both ways.
I see it as voters need to unite to stop trump because We all owe it to our country. The labels of democrat..independent. ..progressive libertarian and republican be damned... to much at stake. JMHO

[dreamnightwind]

42. The party needs to take up our issues

or they have no standing with us. From the article linked in the OP:

The one way the establishment can unite the party before November

The truth is, the establishment is desperately hoping Sanders’ supporters will be bullied into supporting Clinton, as the sheer numbers behind the #BernieOrBust movement has the potential to swing the general election, given Clinton’s obvious vulnerabilities in the electoral college. But the Democratic Party has an easy solution to rally Sanders’ supporters behind their chosen candidate. All the party has to do is ban corporate lobbyists from the DNC, abolish the undemocratic superdelegate system, run on Sanders’ policy proposals like a $15/hour national minimum wage, tuition-free public college, and single-payer health care, divorce itself from Wall Street and the military-industrial complex, and actively work to remove the influence of big money in politics.

[Lil Missy]

43. GOOD! Then the Party also OWES HIM NOTHING!

[restorefreedom]

52. just as well. they gave him nothing except the screw. nt

[apcalc]

49. The Democratic party

Gave Sanders a venue, he got coverage and exposure.... Without that he'd still be at 3%.

[Jennylynn]

59. Bernie's VENUE came from Progressive online sites and 'tv stations'. Nothing more.

[apcalc]

78. Well, Bernie said it himself.

He ran as a Democrat to get national exposure.

[Jennylynn]

81. True. Didn't quite work out for him. Maybe he shouldn't have said it.

[WhiteTara]

50. Bernie should have run an independent campaign

if he feels no allegiance to the Democratic Party that gave him a platform and a data base to run on.

BTW...here's what is said about USUNCUT
Warning: Propaganda Sites Are Spreading Deceptive Bernie vs Hillary Poll Results
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/02/warning-propaganda-sites/

Has “U.S. Uncut” Abandoned Journalistic Integrity?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/randomthoughtsbahahaha/has-us-uncut-abandoned-journalistic-integrity-cgw8

[asuhornets]

51. He owes Clinton a concession, that's it.....nt

[azurnoir]

53. Sanders has done the Democratic Party a great service

he made the perfect canary, Hillary needed to run against someone and Sanders cost the Democratic party nothing nada zilch no Democratic Senator, House member, or Governor was sacrificed, only an indi whois probably close to retirement anyway, I've heard rumors that a Democrat will choosen to run in his place or somesuch

[Ned_Devine]

54. Amen to that

And neither do I. I'm changing my status to unenrolled. I don't want to be affiliated with corrupt politicians of any gender. Dannel Malloy appointing an insurance lobbyist as his state's insurance regulator? Ridiculous. Ed Rendell working for a fracking lobbying firm after he leaves office, and his state in an ecological mess after inviting the fracking industry to his state on a red carpet? Absurd. Hillary Clinton giving $250K speeches to Wall St. banks, the same groups that tanked the US economy in 2008, and then telling us she wants to rein in Wall St.? Piss off. I'm a fucking liberal, not a sucker. That's how it feels to vote for the democrats now. It's like we're constantly being bamboozled by a bunch of fucking liars.

[djean111]

58. Very well said, sir! I agree, wholeheartedly.

Will be changing to unaffiliated in August, after I vote for Grayson, in a primary.

[MFM008]

57. when you chose to run as a democrat

you usually accept to abide by those rules.
I disagree, you missed a lot of television then because I saw Mr. Sanders on there as frequently as I saw HRC.
If he didn't have enough surrogates to cover interviews or out there supporting him, that was an error in HIS campaign.
(They covered every minute of his rally here in Seattle.)
When you sign up for the military you have to operate in their framework and you KNOW that going in.

[Beacool]

64. Sanders should listen to the advice that Gore gave Dean when Dean dropped out.

Al Gore had endorsed Howard Dean in 2004. When Dean dropped out of the race, Gore called him. Dean talked about venting to Gore and complaining about every perceived slight. Finally, Gore stopped him and told him that it was not about him, that it was about the country. Dean rallied and supported Kerry when he became the nominee. The following year he became the DNC Chairman and pursued the now well known "50 state strategy".

After DC has voted, someone should take over the Gore role and call Sanders.

[Skink]

82. That 50 state strategy needs to come back.

[Beacool]

85. I think that it will this year.

There are states that can be turned blue thanks to Trump.

[tarheelsunc]

73. The Democratic Party doesn't owe Bernie Sanders a Damn Thing. eom

[ancianita]

76. They owe him thanks for making them think outside the Beltway Box.

[bravenak]

77. And the reverse is true as well . WE DON't OWE BERNIE SANDERS A THING

[XRubicon]

83. That's right! And the Democratic Party doesn't owe Bernie a damn thing either.

How long has Hillary been a Democrat? And Bernie?

We should push him out on his own in the Senate.

[Bleacher Creature]

86. Remember when Clinton was accused of being "entitled" and SDs were bad???

My, how things have changed!!

[jamese777]

89. Caucusing with Senate Dems

Bernie Sanders has been a member of the Democratic Party's Senate Caucus since 2007. I'm betting that he would like once again to be the Chair of a Senate Committee so that he can draft legislation and shepherd it through Congress to be signed into law by a president.
Somehow I don't see the Republican Party assisting Senator Sanders with his legislative agenda.

[demosincebirth]

91. Yes he does. We let him run as a democrat!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

92. Nor does anyone not on their payroll.

A label is just a label.

[emulatorloo]

96. Bernie Sanders will endorse HRC. He has telegraphed it over and over

And he is a man of his word.

Has nothing to do with "owing the party".

He said just the other day he's looking forward to working w HRC to defeat Trump.


(IMHO "owing the party" is a bullshit strawman meme coming from your source)

No matter how many misleading angry rants that 'uncut' site produces, that is the reality. Bernie is a man of his word and will do what he thinks is right.

You used to have a lot better taste in sources. .

[RandySF]

101. True, since he's never been a Democrat.

[vdogg]

104. And we don't owe him anything.

Glad we could come to this agreement. Move along now.

[Skid Rogue]

113. Okay, he doesn't owe the Democratic Party a damn thing....

But he said he'll do whatever it takes to defeat Trump. So, maybe he owes the human race something?

Sanders will do the right thing. It has nothing to do with the Democratic Party.

[brooklynite]

115. I thought we'd already moved from "Denial" to "Anger" to "Bargaining"

[athena]

122. The denial stage apparently takes a very long time.

Just look at all the threads declaring that Bernie can still win California.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

117. Neither does the Democratic Party/Hillary

owe Bernie anything.

[jrandom421]

120. In that case

Let him pay his own campaign debt, and deal with the FEC violations on his own.

[Hekate]

135. "Debbie Washerman Shithead"? "Shillary"? does it get more Right Wing than that? Tick tock.

By the way, Freeperville is thataway ----->

[Sancho]

131. Completely illogical...Bernie and his supporters ARE the Democratic party! Do they owe themselves?

Otherwise, it they don't think of themselves as part of the party that they claim, then they are hypocrites, thieves, and lying assholes.

Which is it? Are they who they say they are? Will they work for the Democratic Party? Put their time and money into the Democratic Party efforts? Vote for the Democratic Party nominee?

If not, then get off the pot and go away.

[eastwestdem]

143. Agreed. He is not a Democrat, and does not offer much to the party. Certainly not enough to warrant

the ring kissing he is demanding.

[George Eliot]

147. Thank you. We own our votes. I will choose and Bernie will choose and I'll never think less of him.

After the disrespect and coercive tactics employed by DWS, DNC, Clinton and MSNBC, he owes them nada. Rail against him if you must, he'll go back to doing the small things he's always done and make smart decisions for the benefit of the average American whether it be Jew, Black, Native American, Asian, Muslim, Christian, male, female, and any other category I missed. That's who he is.