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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:14 PM Jun 2016

Will you stand with me and the great junior senator from Vermont when he endorses Hillary Clinton?








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30 (58%)
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Will you stand with me and the great junior senator from Vermont when he endorses Hillary Clinton? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 OP
I proudly stand with DemocratSinceBirth ... stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #1
"I proudly stand with DemocratSinceBirth, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and our great party." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #2
I'll stand with you PJMcK Jun 2016 #101
Where I am, as of now. Shemp Howard Jun 2016 #3
I support Bernie. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #4
Bernie! PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #5
This is premature newfie11 Jun 2016 #6
....... azurnoir Jun 2016 #7
Skinner is not keeping a list PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #9
None of your damn business what I'll do. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #8
You seem upset and as an empathetic person I hate to see anybody in distress... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #11
Why can't we be friends? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #15
Because I don't associate with people who are full of hate notadmblnd Jun 2016 #17
Love is the answer DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #20
dont believe an endorsement til we hear it. he was cheated/defrauded/rigged out et et et nt msongs Jun 2016 #13
I believe with all my heart he will do the right thing. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #16
Absolutely correct. bvf Jun 2016 #12
Why can't we be friends? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #14
Here's something just for you. bvf Jun 2016 #18
Love is the answer DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #19
Sure thing, Pete. bvf Jun 2016 #21
Nelson Mandela says hi DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #24
Hearing voices again, are you? bvf Jun 2016 #25
"Love is the only thing..." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #26
Mmph. bvf Jun 2016 #29
"I say to you..." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #31
Aw, that's just precious as fuck. bvf Jun 2016 #34
"But love your enemies..." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #35
That's really something. Yep. bvf Jun 2016 #39
"Do what is beautiful..." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #40
That looks like it was done with a DYMO labeler bvf Jun 2016 #86
Can't show any love for Hilllary and ya boy Bernie tag teaming Trump? bravenak Jun 2016 #41
I am trying to win him over by showering him with love DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #42
Ooooh! Try this one, I'm sure Hillary loves it bravenak Jun 2016 #43
What The World Needs Now Is Love DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #45
Endless Love bravenak Jun 2016 #47
... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #48
I hipe our fellow posters find some solace in all this love bravenak Jun 2016 #49
I had a friend who had a fro like that and he was white. The 70s were crazy. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #50
I knew and Irish girl with a BADASS fro in High school bravenak Jun 2016 #52
I used to watch him pick it out... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #53
With the black pick comb with the fist, I bet bravenak Jun 2016 #55
I don't remember if it had a fist but his fro was huge... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #58
I keep saying I'm going to come down there bravenak Jun 2016 #60
Have you ever been to Max's? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #62
Nope! You wanna go there? bravenak Jun 2016 #65
Sure DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #66
If you mean that Cuban place, then yes. bravenak Jun 2016 #67
In Encino or downtown? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #68
In LA, not sure it was all the way downtown downtown, but kinda far bravenak Jun 2016 #71
I have only been to the one in Encino. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #73
It's been years bravenak Jun 2016 #75
Understood. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #76
Passive aggressive aint love Armstead Jun 2016 #83
I will await the verdict of history. They can start here: DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #85
You will not be here much longer I assume. Bye Bye! nt Logical Jun 2016 #59
Of course. I think he can be a great asset to the campaign. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #22
Of course I will. ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #23
I voted for Sanders in March and plan to vote for HRC in November. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #27
It's up to Bernie who he endorses and votes for. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #28
Happily! mcar Jun 2016 #30
Bernie is a mensch flamingdem Jun 2016 #32
I am VERY much looking forward to BERNIE'S ENDORSEMENT of Hillary! I can't wait ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #33
I want nothing to do with you ibegurpard Jun 2016 #36
He will likely, very likely, endorse her. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #37
You know where I stand. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #38
This seems a little ass backwards MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #44
... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #46
I'm already standing anyway tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51
This really isn't doing your candidate any good Fumesucker Jun 2016 #54
I have been restrained in my criticism of Senator Sanders... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #56
By all means proceed, poster Fumesucker Jun 2016 #70
I take that as you are unable to rebut what I wrote. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #72
Take it any way you want Fumesucker Jun 2016 #77
I am interested in stopping incipient fascism. Trump is an ersatz 21st century version of it. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #79
I meant my post as constructive criticism not a put down Fumesucker Jun 2016 #80
"He's not Hitler..." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #81
As I have stated before, I will not vote for the lesser of 2 evils. wundermaus Jun 2016 #57
5 days Tarc Jun 2016 #61
Can't come soon enough that 6*16*16 Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #74
Tic Tic Tic wundermaus Jun 2016 #93
The most amusing/ironic thing about those sorts of responses is... Tarc Jun 2016 #99
I would never tell you who to vote for. I would never arrogate to myself that power. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #69
I like it here just fine, thank you very much. wundermaus Jun 2016 #95
5 days and we can say goodbye to you. leftofcool Jun 2016 #88
Thanks for the laughs! and kiss my Grits! wundermaus Jun 2016 #91
Why are we not demanding that she clear up the crap we're fighting libdem4life Jun 2016 #63
tick tock leftofcool Jun 2016 #89
Is there some hidden meaning here? Almost 3 Billy Goats Gruff meany libdem4life Jun 2016 #90
I stand with Democrat from Birth. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #64
At this moment 8:24 pm... Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #78
Wow, nice ableist language tralala Jun 2016 #82
No Miles Archer Jun 2016 #84
:( DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #96
I must decline and proudly stand with my own conscience. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #87
God, NO! She's a corrupt LIAR... AzDar Jun 2016 #92
If Bernie endorse her, I will most definitely stand with her LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #94
Stand for what? B Calm Jun 2016 #97
I'll respect his decision and act on my own accord. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #98
NO, I will NOT be endorsing Hillary John Poet Jun 2016 #100
Let's see what he does. Let's see what she does. It's not so hard to earn my vote, highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #102
I understand his decision TSIAS Jun 2016 #103

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. "I proudly stand with DemocratSinceBirth, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and our great party."
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

Fixed it for you in anticipation of the upcoming endorsement from Bernie Sanders


Let bygones be bygones:


PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
101. I'll stand with you
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:13 AM
Jun 2016

Your last line is appropriate and I acknowledge your maturity, DemocratSinceBirth. I'm proud to be a Democrat with you.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
9. Skinner is not keeping a list
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016

and has said there would be no purge.

This is just a pipe dream of neo-dems.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
8. None of your damn business what I'll do.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016

See, I told you you couldn't resist being the one of the most vitriolic, divisive individuals on this discussion board. No freaking way you can let bygones be bygones. I caught your damn slam of Sanders once again. You'll never stop because in my opinion you are full of hatefulness and little else.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. You seem upset and as an empathetic person I hate to see anybody in distress...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jun 2016

I play this song when I am in distress:




I hope it work(s) (ed) for you.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #10)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I believe with all my heart he will do the right thing.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jun 2016

Much of what was said was said in the heat of passion.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
58. I don't remember if it had a fist but his fro was huge...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jun 2016

I want to say this here...You, #23, and 1SBM are like kin to me. It would be great to have a family reunion.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
27. I voted for Sanders in March and plan to vote for HRC in November.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

Regarding what Sanders may say about HRC in the future, I'll have to hear it before agreeing or disagreeing with it.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
28. It's up to Bernie who he endorses and votes for.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jun 2016

However, I don't vote based on endorsements or other peoples votes.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
32. Bernie is a mensch
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jun 2016

He's got integrity, knows exactly where he was helped and harmed, and who he owes. He does owe the dems this endorsement and work on Hillary's campaign. He'll do it and keep the issues he cares about in the limelight at the same time.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
33. I am VERY much looking forward to BERNIE'S ENDORSEMENT of Hillary! I can't wait ...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jun 2016

... to hear him say "I'M WITH HER!" and to campaign on her behalf! He's going to be a great asset (especially, in light of the fact that Trump is already quoting Bernie with the "she's not qualified" bullshit ... Bernie's got a LOT of amends to make for that screw-up!)

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
37. He will likely, very likely, endorse her.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

He pretty much has to, but that doesn't mean HRC gets my vote.

I didn't see that option so I didn't vote.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
44. This seems a little ass backwards
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jun 2016

Isn't Sanders going to stand with Clinton, or does he need a top billing over her? You know to show the boys are still in charge.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
54. This really isn't doing your candidate any good
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

You've been telling us for a year what you think of Sanders, don't try to take it all back now overnight.

I wouldn't have any credibility if I all of a sudden start singing Hillary's praises after spending a year doing the opposite so I won't do that.

One thing I've noticed about authoritarians is they have almost no concept of how non-authoritarians think. What you are doing might work with fellow authoritarians but fails miserably with those who don't march to that drummer.

If you treated a dog like you have been treating Sanders supporters it would be a confused and hostile mess. Whup it, whup it, scold it, whup it some more and then all of a sudden start giving it treats and telling it nice doggy.

Five, five days. Ah ah ah.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
56. I have been restrained in my criticism of Senator Sanders...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jun 2016

I have been restrained in my criticism of Senator Sanders, and much of my criticism was a reaction to the criticism lodged upon my candidate by the supporters of Senator Sanders. A simple search would establish the veracity of my claims.


One thing I've noticed about authoritarians is they have almost no concept of how non-authoritarians think. What you are doing might work with fellow authoritarians but fails miserably with those who don't march to that drummer.



This is ironic in light of the fact I never questioned the intelligence or sincerity of Senator Sanders' supporters or his high profile endorsers, except in the rare cases where their aberrant behavior made it warranted. Every Clinton high profile endorser was attacked by the supporters of the senator and sometimes viciously. Also, the questioning of the intelligence of Hillary Clinton's African American supporters continues to this day. Thinking you know what is best for others is the sine qua non of authoritarianism:


"I've seen those posts about how some PoC, feel they can't risk a failed revolution. They will be the ones to take the punch in the face. Kind of like risking losing the easier job at the big house on the plantation and ending up back in the fields for rocking the boat."


Physician, heal thyself.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
77. Take it any way you want
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jun 2016

I see you as far more interested in scoring DU points than gaining support for your professed candidate.

It's a lot easier to forgive someone for being wrong than for being right.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
79. I am interested in stopping incipient fascism. Trump is an ersatz 21st century version of it.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe if folks would have taken Hitler seriously six million of my co-religionists would have lived and four continents would not have been thrown into war...Since Bernie and I share a common heritage I am sure he will join Hillary and all people of good conscience in the fight against Trump.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
80. I meant my post as constructive criticism not a put down
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jun 2016

You really don't seem to have a clue how I think for one and I know or knew quite a few old timers on DU who do understand each other.

Going full Godwin right off the bat isn't very smart IMO, once you get to Hitler the dial is at eleven and there's nowhere else to go.

Dynamics, modulation is important in politics like it is in music, everything at full volume all the time numbs the senses and dulls the perceptions.

There are authoritarians in just about any political group, some groups have more than others, Republicans are virtually all authoritarians for instance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
81. "He's not Hitler..."
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jun 2016
He’s not Hitler, as his wife recently said? Well, of course he isn’t. But then Hitler wasn’t Hitler—until he was. At each step of the way, the shock was tempered by acceptance. It depended on conservatives pretending he wasn’t so bad, compared with the Communists, while at the same time the militant left decided that their real enemies were the moderate leftists, who were really indistinguishable from the Nazis. The radical progressives decided that there was no difference between the democratic left and the totalitarian right and that an explosion of institutions was exactly the most thrilling thing imaginable.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

wundermaus

(1,673 posts)
57. As I have stated before, I will not vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jun 2016

If Bernie is not the Democratic candidate then I will vote for Jill Stein.
Trump and Clinton are oligarchs.
Neither represent us.
Both are corrupt.
Both are poison to Democracy.
As citizens of this country, it is our responsibility and duty to act based on facts and due diligence.

"The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

- Benjamin Franklin

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
99. The most amusing/ironic thing about those sorts of responses is...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:52 AM
Jun 2016

The vaunted jackpine forum haven over there will truly be the echo chamber; the difference being, they don't stand for anything in particular, they just define themselves by who they're against.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
69. I would never tell you who to vote for. I would never arrogate to myself that power.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jun 2016

That being said I don't think you will like it here...




Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice






BTW, love the Franklin quote

wundermaus

(1,673 posts)
95. I like it here just fine, thank you very much.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:52 AM
Jun 2016

Being liberal is to have an open mind.
Being conservative is to protect and defend.
Being both is what makes us Americans.
We truly are not all one or another.
Being free and informed allows us the privilege to ponder all the facets of complex social, economic, and political issues.
Possessing a liberated mind that allows open and even heated discussions...
And not to be trapped in polarizing and decisive dogma.
Study the candidates well and review their record to see if their actions reflect your own values, ethics, vision: what will be our legacy?



 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
63. Why are we not demanding that she clear up the crap we're fighting
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jun 2016

each other over. It's not about us. I'm sick of her manipulating the entire country with her "power" and her "reputation" and yes, her "gender" and who is "endorsing" her.

She has not earned the trust of the American people. Why are we fighting over this? It's on Ms. Clinton...and frankly my dear, she doesn't give a damn.

ETA: The Empress Has No Ethical Clothes...but don't tell anyone. Let the Republicans do it for us.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
90. Is there some hidden meaning here? Almost 3 Billy Goats Gruff meany
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jun 2016

characters popping up like so many of Flopsie's Bunnies. LOL. Grade level comments.

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
78. At this moment 8:24 pm...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jun 2016

23 people are going to shove old Bernie under the bus when he endorses Hillary for President of the United States of America.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
84. No
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jun 2016

I'll decide what I'm going to do between now and November, but no, I won't be standing with you any time soon.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
87. I must decline and proudly stand with my own conscience.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016

Your scenario may be where it leads me, but I doubt it.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
94. If Bernie endorse her, I will most definitely stand with her
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:34 AM
Jun 2016

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]But, I have said from the beginning that despite supporting Bernie in the Primary; I would, in the end, support the penultimate democratic nominee in the general election.

Since she is all but certain to win that, I guess I will be standing with her in the General. I just hope she returns the favor and stands strong on civil rights and liberties (especially with regards to LGBTQ issues) as president.

I am a loyal person, and my issues are important to me. If she stands up for that and she can count on my support indefinitely.[/font]

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
102. Let's see what he does. Let's see what she does. It's not so hard to earn my vote,
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

but you gotta act like a Democrat.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
103. I understand his decision
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

It's not ideal, but things are the way they are, and it's the best of a bad list of choices.

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