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HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:13 PM Jun 2016

Part loyalty, closing ranks, and all that.

If the Republicans can close ranks around Donald Trump, we should be able to come together and support Hillary Clinton. Many mainstream Republicans are truly revolted by Trump, but they are saying they support him because the possibility of President Hillary is too terrible to contemplate. They are backing Trump because they fear Hillary, and for no other reason. The only reason we would not do the same as they are doing is if we do not fear Trump, if we think he is not enough of a threat that we would burn some votes to punish our party for failing to nominate Bernie. While I can sympathize with that, I don't think there's a good case for that course of action for two reasons: (1) Clinton is not that bad, and (2) Trump is. Under different circumstances, I could support sending a message to the party, but not this time.

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Part loyalty, closing ranks, and all that. (Original Post) HassleCat Jun 2016 OP
bernie sanders maintains an active campaign against hillary clinton - its not over...to him nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
I fear both, for different reasons, but darkness decends swhisper1 Jun 2016 #2
Swing states yes, everywhere else vote Jill Stein to get Greens over the 5% point Arazi Jun 2016 #3
A reminder: LWolf Jun 2016 #4

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
3. Swing states yes, everywhere else vote Jill Stein to get Greens over the 5% point
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

For federal $$ matching.

Everyone agrees Bernie Sanders campaign has been good for our Democratic nominee. Running strong leftists helps our party recognize labor, climate change issues, anti-war movements etc. As Democrats who embrace true Democratic ideals, it's important to support anything that helps our party.





LWolf

(46,179 posts)
4. A reminder:
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jun 2016

Of those who don't vote for Clinton in November, many are not about punishing the party, but about simply not voting for, and thereby legitimizing, more neo-liberalism.

It's not about Trump. It's about not unifying, not closing ranks around, the fucking neo-liberalism.

Is Hillary going to help create a platform, an agenda, and an administration that doesn't include neo-liberalism?

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