Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:25 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
So, where do you draw the line?
What line? The one where you can do something while under FBI scrutiny.
Buy groceries, but not a gun. Sounds reasonable to me. Drive a car? Ok. Run for Mayor? The Senate? President? Where do you draw the line?
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hootinholler | Jun 2016 | OP |
LexVegas | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
hootinholler | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
LexVegas | Jun 2016 | #12 | |
Duckhunter935 | Jun 2016 | #28 | |
Puglover | Jun 2016 | #42 | |
Duckhunter935 | Jun 2016 | #43 | |
Puglover | Jun 2016 | #44 | |
azurnoir | Jun 2016 | #54 | |
AgingAmerican | Jun 2016 | #39 | |
Hortensis | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
hootinholler | Jun 2016 | #10 | |
Hortensis | Jun 2016 | #15 | |
John Poet | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
TwilightZone | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
hootinholler | Jun 2016 | #7 | |
Post removed | Jun 2016 | #14 | |
TwilightZone | Jun 2016 | #17 | |
Squinch | Jun 2016 | #24 | |
zappaman | Jun 2016 | #19 | |
Squinch | Jun 2016 | #21 | |
geek tragedy | Jun 2016 | #23 | |
hootinholler | Jun 2016 | #25 | |
Autumn | Jun 2016 | #37 | |
yallerdawg | Jun 2016 | #46 | |
Starry Messenger | Jun 2016 | #41 | |
Bobbie Jo | Jun 2016 | #47 | |
stevenleser | Jun 2016 | #48 | |
hootinholler | Jun 2016 | #49 | |
joshcryer | Jun 2016 | #56 | |
joshcryer | Jun 2016 | #55 | |
Live and Learn | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
Snotcicles | Jun 2016 | #59 | |
onehandle | Jun 2016 | #8 | |
Bill USA | Jun 2016 | #9 | |
hootinholler | Jun 2016 | #13 | |
Juicy_Bellows | Jun 2016 | #27 | |
ZombieHorde | Jun 2016 | #11 | |
MissDeeds | Jun 2016 | #51 | |
ZombieHorde | Jun 2016 | #52 | |
geek tragedy | Jun 2016 | #16 | |
brooklynite | Jun 2016 | #18 | |
grossproffit | Jun 2016 | #20 | |
Sancho | Jun 2016 | #22 | |
Fumesucker | Jun 2016 | #31 | |
Sancho | Jun 2016 | #33 | |
Fumesucker | Jun 2016 | #34 | |
Sancho | Jun 2016 | #35 | |
Fumesucker | Jun 2016 | #36 | |
TwilightZone | Jun 2016 | #60 | |
Adrahil | Jun 2016 | #26 | |
NorthCarolina | Jun 2016 | #29 | |
PowerToThePeople | Jun 2016 | #30 | |
felix_numinous | Jun 2016 | #32 | |
840high | Jun 2016 | #38 | |
senz | Jun 2016 | #40 | |
Demsrule86 | Jun 2016 | #45 | |
brooklynite | Jun 2016 | #50 | |
pdsimdars | Jun 2016 | #53 | |
joshcryer | Jun 2016 | #57 | |
MyNameGoesHere | Jun 2016 | #58 |
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:26 PM
LexVegas (5,456 posts)
1. On the 16th. nt
Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:29 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
3. Tick fucking tock baby.
Care to answer the question?
Maybe at least acknowledge the irony? |
Response to hootinholler (Reply #3)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:39 PM
LexVegas (5,456 posts)
12. You asked where I would draw the line. I answered.
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Response to LexVegas (Reply #12)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:23 PM
Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)
28. 13 hides, impressive
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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:07 AM
Puglover (16,380 posts)
42. These posters seem to forget that the 16th is also a day
when they had better rethink their behavior.
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Response to Puglover (Reply #42)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:22 AM
Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)
43. Indeed so
I am saddened that Skinner will give them another amnesty. They all should be put on an immediate time out. Anybody with 5+ hides.
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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #43)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:26 AM
Puglover (16,380 posts)
44. I suspect that it will be similar to the past 8 years.
An "I love Obama" or "How DARE you say something other then positive about our President. You're a hater." inserted frequently in seems to afford posters immunity in spite of really bad behavior.
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Response to Puglover (Reply #42)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:04 PM
azurnoir (45,850 posts)
54. If Bernie hasn't conceded by the 16th I suspect a sort of immunity will be granted
because until he concedes it can be said he is part of the opposition to real Democrats right along with Trump
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Response to hootinholler (Reply #3)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:17 PM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
39. It is much easier to put their fingers in their ears and say, "la la la lalalalala"
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:28 PM
Hortensis (58,785 posts)
2. Well I'd start with a properly issued court order.
Just in case the FBI thinks it doesn't have better things to do than follow me around a grocery store, let them convince a federal judge of it first.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #2)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
10. Now there's a silly notion
Maybe a highly trained and skilled lawyer would not suggest curtailing rights because of an accusation, would they?
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Response to hootinholler (Reply #10)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:47 PM
Hortensis (58,785 posts)
15. Requiring court orders to allow spying on us are silly?
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:29 PM
John Poet (2,510 posts)
4. There IS no line, if your name is Hillary Clinton.
I would think they have made that pretty clear by now.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
TwilightZone (22,210 posts)
5. Aw, aren't you just the cutest thing?
You come up with that all by yourself?
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #5)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:35 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
7. It was transmitted via my tinfoil hat.
Care to answer the actual question seriously? |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #5)
Post removed
Response to Post removed (Reply #14)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:54 PM
TwilightZone (22,210 posts)
17. Eesh. That was before I came back.
Looks like I should be glad I was still away from DU then. I thought the current state was bad enough.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #17)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:02 PM
Squinch (49,320 posts)
24. Yeah. Things got pretty disgusting. A few very sick minds were revealed.
Response to Post removed (Reply #14)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
zappaman (20,602 posts)
19. Wtf?
How did that survive a jury?
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Response to Squinch (Reply #21)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:02 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
23. Rhetorical question of course. nt
Response to zappaman (Reply #19)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:07 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
25. Probably because the jury considered the whole context
I expected it to be hidden, in fact I was worried about a 7-0 hide.
Go figure. ![]() |
Response to hootinholler (Reply #25)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:10 PM
Autumn (43,423 posts)
37. 3-4 to keep huh?
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Response to hootinholler (Reply #25)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:37 AM
yallerdawg (16,104 posts)
46. I would expect that kind of personal attack...
to meet NO community standard of a website.
How would that "post" be removed and never referenced again? |
Response to zappaman (Reply #19)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:44 PM
Starry Messenger (32,339 posts)
41. How is he still a member?
Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:48 AM
Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)
47. No kidding.
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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:50 AM
stevenleser (32,886 posts)
48. What's really fascinating is that the mention of it was hidden but not the original post.
And these folks argue that Hillary supporters were the nasty ones here. We're all about to see who has an easier time being civil.
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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:27 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
49. I don't know how he is still a member
Setting up an external website to launch attacks on DUers used to be a bannable offense.
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Response to hootinholler (Reply #49)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:13 PM
joshcryer (62,228 posts)
56. He created the JPR hate site?
Response to zappaman (Reply #19)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:10 PM
joshcryer (62,228 posts)
55. Brigading by very ugly people.
That was back when AA posters were getting hides for nothing.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:33 PM
Live and Learn (12,769 posts)
6. Let Skinner call it.
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Response to Live and Learn (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:21 PM
Snotcicles (9,089 posts)
59. LOL, sharp as a tack. nt
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
onehandle This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:36 PM
Bill USA (6,436 posts)
9. read up on something called: "presumption of innocence", as opposed to McCarthyism
Response to Bill USA (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:40 PM
hootinholler (26,449 posts)
13. Interesting
Are you implying that Hillary ignored that foundational principle of U.S. law?
I'm paraphrasing, but didn't she say that no one under FBI scrutiny should be able to buy such a weapon as was used in Orlando? |
Response to hootinholler (Reply #13)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Juicy_Bellows (2,427 posts)
27. I hadn't thought of that in those terms.
It is interesting.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:38 PM
ZombieHorde (29,047 posts)
11. I like innocent until proven guilty
as far as restrictions go.
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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:08 PM
MissDeeds (7,499 posts)
51. So then someone under FBI scrutiny
should be able to buy a firearm? Hillary doesn't think so.
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Response to MissDeeds (Reply #51)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:21 PM
ZombieHorde (29,047 posts)
52. The argument makes sense to me,
but I still favor innocent until proven guilty. The restriction could potentially save lives, so I very much respect the opposing view.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:50 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
16. little over 48 hours until Addition by Subtraction Day
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:55 PM
brooklynite (89,683 posts)
18. Three!
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
20. Due process seems to mean nothing to some.
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:58 PM
Sancho (9,018 posts)
22. The line...how about investigating crazy gunmen instead of emails about the SoS and yoga!!
When someone goes to Saudia Arabia twice, has an ex-wife say he's crazy and abusive, has a coworker say he's threatening, goes to the mosque with a known suicide bomber, and buys assault weapons AFTER HE'S ON THE FBI LIST AND HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED TWICE - then they need to spend their time more wisely!
Or else they are incompetent. My line - quit wasting time and money on RW, GOP witch hunts and get your real job done!! Almost time that these flame bait OPs go away!! ![]() |
Response to Sancho (Reply #22)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:46 PM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
31. Hillary set up her private server because the SD IT dept is incompetent
Now you tell us that the FBI is incompetent.
Government incompetence is the Republican meme, not the Democratic one. |
Response to Fumesucker (Reply #31)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:54 PM
Sancho (9,018 posts)
33. You are making stuff up..
"set up her private server because the SD IT dept is incompetent"
My pet schnauzer could have done a better investigation of the Orlando shooter. If they are competent, then their resources are mishandled. You can't have it both ways. |
Response to Sancho (Reply #33)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:59 PM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
34. I diidn't realize you folks had moved on to she set up the server to avoid FOIA requests
I thought the meme was still that the SD email was so bad that Hillary was forced to set up her own server to get her job done.
Sorry, it's hard to keep up. |
Response to Fumesucker (Reply #34)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:02 PM
Sancho (9,018 posts)
35. Then you can't read...I'll help you ... have fun...
Response to Sancho (Reply #35)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:08 PM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
36. I am not a smart man
It's not nice to mock the differently abled.
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Response to Sancho (Reply #35)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:22 PM
TwilightZone (22,210 posts)
60. I'm going to have to steal this.
Well, actually, I'm just going to send people to this post.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:09 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
26. How many posters will commit suicide by mod on Thursday?
I plan to tune in. Could be pretty Epic.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:31 PM
NorthCarolina (11,197 posts)
29. The line can be drawn between the top 10% and the bottom 90%. After that it
becomes easy. Those above the line can pretty much operate in god mode.
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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #29)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:34 PM
PowerToThePeople (9,610 posts)
30. This
is truth.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:52 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
32. That line is made of $$$$$$$$$$
which apparently trumps truth, liberty and justice for all, to some.
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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #32)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:16 PM
840high (17,196 posts)
38. yep +10
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:38 PM
senz (11,945 posts)
40. Depends on who you are. Obviously.
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:36 AM
Demsrule86 (67,170 posts)
45. No guns if you beat up your wife and are known to hang with terrorists...not hard at all
I think the FBI director should be fired...he spends all this time on emails...and let this guy go to Saudi Arabia, hang with known terrorists and didn't even block his ability to purchase a gun. Oh and ban all assault weapons now.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:17 PM
brooklynite (89,683 posts)
50. Today (since this thread is still running) I draw the line under the "2"
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
pdsimdars (6,007 posts)
53. It seems to depend on WHO you are for where that line has to be drawn.
We have a dual justice system. Which means we don't really have a rule of law. And without that, you don't have a country. Unless it gets fixed, we will fall apart.
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:14 PM
joshcryer (62,228 posts)
57. Why am I not surprised Sanders "supporters" really ARE gunners?
Response to hootinholler (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:16 PM
MyNameGoesHere (7,638 posts)
58. Bibi can help you with drawing things like that
he draws cartoon red lines, I guess he could branch out for you.
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